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Subject: Forerunners
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Something I have noticed is when I was replaying the maw it gives further evedence of humans being the forerunners. I am sure someone else has noticed this too, but when u see the monitor when u go to start the countdown he asks the cheif why he would want destroy the long lost history of the forerunners, he doesn't say this but he says the history of them, and now there is almost no doubt since the Halo 3 announcement shows a new artifact on earth.

  • 05.09.2006 7:58 PM PDT

That is a good point. i have speculated that the forerunners where human since the first game because the moniter refers to you as a human as though he Knew exactly what the Chief was and he also refers to the Covenant as 'The other Species'. that got me to thinking that the Forerunners who from Earth.

  • 05.10.2006 4:43 AM PDT
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He never said Forerunner. I know I'm splitting hairs but that little detail is important.

Some other things to note:
-The Symbol on 343GS "face" is a Marathon symbol, used only by humans. If 343GS is Forerunner, then the Marathon Symbol is a Forerunner Symbol.

-All Covnenant Technology is based upon Forerunner tech, so it would be logical for the Covenant to use Forerunner Symbols, so why no Marathon Symbol within the Covenant?

This begs the question: Is 343GS a Forerunner Construct?

  • 05.10.2006 8:24 AM PDT
Subject: Forerunners & the Flood was it a experiment gone horribly wrong...
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who here thinks that the Flood have everything to do with the Ark & the forrunner's records disappearing... 343 Guilty Spark is a prime example of Human Technology... Everyone thinks that the forrunners were some distant species of Covenant, well sorry to break it to you but if they were distant relatives of the Covenant then why would the Ark be on Earth & not Hierarch (the Covenant Homeworld)... give me your comments... what do you guys think?!

  • 05.10.2006 1:07 PM PDT
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What the Hell. OF COURSE 343 Guilty Spark IS A FORERUNNER CONSTRUCT!! C'MON DON'T BE A RETARD.
The Forerunners studied the Flood but they became unstopable so they activated the Halos. I do speculate Guilty Spark must have been the one to do activate Halo's defenses and maybe the Halos have been activated before several times by him and named himself 343 Guilty Spark. As for the number it is unknown to me and I can't think of a reason for it but ok.

(Spoiler Notice:All of this is pure speculation and you may take it seriously but be aware that this remains untrue to it's entity.)

*Drinks Sobe*

[Edited on 5/10/2006]

  • 05.10.2006 2:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: SpartanGeneral7What the Hell. OF COURSE 343 Guilty Spark IS A FORERUNNER CONSTRUCT!! C'MON DON'T BE A RETARD.
The Forerunners studied the Flood but they became unstopable so they activated the Halos. I do speculate Guilty Spark must have been the one to do activate Halo's defenses and maybe the Halos have been activated before several times by him and named himself 343 Guilty Spark. As for the number it is unknown to me and I can't think of a reason for it but ok.

(Spoiler Notice:All of this is pure speculation and you may take it seriously but be aware that this remains untrue to it's entity.)

*Drinks Sobe*


Okay, I'm not being a retard, I'm just posing an intersting question, and you cleverly ignored it. Calling me a retard does not prove me wrong.

Of course there is a greater likelyhood of 343GS being a Forerunner construct, but doesn't it seem odd that it has a Human symbol on it, rather than a symbol found on the Halo or Covenant structures?

Also, its incorrect to say that 343GS activated the Halo. It was the original version of the Master Chief that activated the Halos, because he asked 343GS some 100,000 odd years ago if he would do the same. 343GS can't activate the rings himself, he needs a reclaimer to do it.

And as far as I know, 343 is just a random number that has no meaning, other than the fact that its a multiple of 7. (7*7*7=343) 2401 is a multiple as well. (7*7*7*7)

  • 05.10.2006 3:16 PM PDT
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yes this was what I was thinking too. But anyway the forunners couldn't be the old covenent since the came to be when they conqured other worlds and had them join the covenent.

I also think that halo was only activated it once, mostly because it only specifies one other time. 343GS says that the reclamer asked if he was to do it would he and then goes on to say my answer is still the same. so obviously he still thinks it's the same person.

and also there is another point that sparten General brought up (Spoiler Notice:All of this is pure speculation and you may take it seriously but be aware that this remains untrue to it's entity.)
this is a good point because 343GS may have been confused because of the suit (tho I doubt this) and thought it was someone else. and like he said we won't know until they tell us

  • 05.10.2006 8:41 PM PDT
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These are some of the clues that guilty spark mentions in the game pointing to humans being the forrunnrers:

The fact that guilty spark pinned the daunting task of retrieving the index and activating the ring on Master Chief, no questions asked, not even considering the covenant, like it was preestablished that he was was supposed to do so, not to mention he keeps calling him "reclaimer."

"Your environment suit should serve you well when the flood begins to alter the atmosphere, you are a good planner."

"Puzzling...you brought such ineffective weapons to combat the flood."

"I would conjecture that the other species currently on the ring is responsible for this outbreak, they seem most persistent in their attempts to access restricted areas."

something about several samples being collected since the last catastrophic outbreak

"The Installation was specifically built to study and contain the flood, their survival as a race was dependent upon it, I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce."

"...but you already knew that..I mean... how couldn't you?"

"...how could you hesitate to do what you have already done?"

"...last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it..."

  • 05.11.2006 1:32 PM PDT
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Well I said it because I find your idea of 343 Guilty Spark being not a Forerunner very good. I just think it is rather ridicule and stupid but I still think you aren't a retard.

*Drinks Sobe*

[EDIT:Anyways I mean that he found a -blam!- Reclaimer to activate the ring as "protocol says that units of his level are not allowed to do a task of such importance", he activates the ring, same crap, big deal. Anyways the idea of there being another Master Chief before him sure is retarded. Maybe a great soldier but not another Master Chief.]

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 2:13 PM PDT
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just for future reference, the halo rings have only been activated once before. In Halo 2, in the cutscene where master chief, that prophet, the arbiter, etc. are all being held by gravemind, 2401 penitent tangent mentions that there has like a trillion simulation activations and 1 actual.

  • 05.12.2006 4:51 PM PDT