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Subject: Spartan IVs

Why are you here?

What exactly do we know about this class?

Are they as strong and as effective as Spartan IIs, or are they another class of Spartan IIIs? Or maybe even better than Spartan IIs?

Do they sport MJONLIR armor?

I know they are made of adult volunteers, and that they're aboard the Infinity.

But do we know anymore about this program or not?

Thoughts and predictions are welcome.


[Edited on 12.22.2011 8:15 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2011 8:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

They won't be as strong as 2's or 3's, they aren't aboard Infinity they were just stationed there for a bit.

  • 12.22.2011 8:20 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

WE know that they are made of volunteers, akin to the Orion Project, and that there are some (no definite numbers are given ) stationed aboard the UNSC Infinity. We also know that the remaining Spartan II's and III's have been offered to blend with the program.

Will they be major players in Halo 4? Maybe. If they aren't, then it seems pretty useless to mention them at all, especially since it is (more or less) predicted that the Infinity will be present in some fashion or another.

Will they wear MJONLIR armor? Again, maybe. Unless given similar enchancements like those of the Spartan II's, then I doubt it. The mention of MARK VII armor in Glasslands is likely foreshadowing of an upgrade for the Chief in Halo 4. I don't see others wearing it, unless Fred, Kelly, or Naomi are involved somehow.

[Edited on 12.22.2011 8:22 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2011 8:21 PM PDT

Why are you here?

They won't be as strong as 2's or 3's, they aren't aboard Infinity they were just stationed there for a bit.

Well, that sucks. More like the ORION project I suppose?

  • 12.22.2011 8:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: MickelPickel
WE know that they are made of volunteers, akin to the Orion Project, and that there are some (no definite numbers are given ) stationed aboard the UNSC Infinity. W.

Will they wear MJONLIR armor? Again, maybe. Unless given similar enchancements like those of the Spartan II's, then I doubt it. The mention of MARK VII armor in Glasslands is likely foreshadowing of an upgrade for the Chief in Halo 4. I don't see others wearing it, unless Fred, Kelly, or Naomi are involved somehow.



Why are you guys paraphrasing? they were stationed there in the past not present, Spartans in a main halo game would take away from chief, and Yes they will have some type of armor.

  • 12.22.2011 8:23 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

"It's a project called Infinity," BB said. "To be exact, Infinity is a warship - a very, very expensive prototype, because she's been fitted with every scrap of Forerunner technology we've picked apart during the course of the war, and now she'll benefit from the tech Halsey found in the sphere. Unfortunately, the Woodentop Navy needed to know about her because even ONI couldn't hide anything that big in the budget, but it's still known to only a handful of very senior officers."

He got a smile out of Osman with Woodentop Navy. It was what he called any branch of the senior service that wasn't ONI. "So how about all those yappy shipyard workers and technicians, then?" she asked.

"There's not much yapping they can do when they've been permanently deployed in the Oort Cloud with full comms lockdown for the past few years," BB said. "Would you like to see the schematics?"

He flashed up the deck-by-deck blueprint on the screen to her left. She rested her elbows on the console and leaned forward, lips slowly parting as the full wonder of Infinity began to sink in.

"Ooh," She hovered on the edge of a smile. "And all that wonderful kit Halsey's found." Then the smile iced over again. "Is that really why she went to Onyx then? Did we misjudge her?"

"Oh, good grief, no. She didn't really know anything about Infinity, believe me. She would only have tried to take over the project. No, the crazy hijacker act was just that. Crazy. Not a cover for anything."

Osman's gaze went back to the blue-prints again. "Who's going to have command?"

"Andrew Del Rio's been driving her for a few years. It's not easy to find competent commanders who can drop off the grid unnoticed for that long. And we've had some Spartan Fours out there for a while too. But with the slipspace navigtion refinement, I think Infinity's going to be ready for the trials a lot sooner than expected."
I see your point. Not a whole lot of info is given about the Spartan IV's; neither number wise nor position wise. It does not state if they are merely there for the moment or permanently attached. From my point of view, I see it as the Spartan IV's being aboard permanently and, as such, would be on board if Chief were to come into contact with the Infinity at some point.

It's just the way I interpreted it. I'm not trying to mangle facts in paraphrasing.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Infinity is just a holding for the spartans just like Damascus was for the SIIs and The UNSC Hopeful was for the SIIIs. They are out there for training and probably about to get Augs/injections.

  • 12.22.2011 8:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
They won't be as strong as 2's or 3's, they aren't aboard Infinity they were just stationed there for a bit .

May I ask, how are you so certain that Spartan 4's won't be as strong as 2s and 3s ?
Is there any evidence of it?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
They won't be as strong as 2's or 3's, they aren't aboard Infinity they were just stationed there for a bit .

May I ask, how are you so certain that Spartan 4's won't be as strong as 2s and 3s ?
Is there any evidence of it?


Orion used adult volunteers, the issue with that is Mods don't work too well on a fully developed human hence why other projects used kids.

The Spartan II project was the best since it used augmentations and certain ones. not to mention a list of other things.

The Spartan III project was from a less strict gene pool, used injections, and didn't get the same stuff the SIIs got.


The Spartan IV project will most likely use injections since it is going to have a larger class, no gene restrictions, and they will be adults. Thus they won't be as strong. I think ONI is going to put all the money on whatever armor they get.


The Goal of the Assembly is to get the entire populace genetically modified, hence the spartan projects.

  • 12.22.2011 9:06 PM PDT

I don't know anything about Spartan IVs, but I am going to speculate a bit.

First of all, cheap and economical "super soldiers"? Been there, done that. I doubt anyone wants more puny super soldiers.

So will the Spartan IVs be as fast and powerful as Spartan IIs? Maybe or maybe not. What I think matters is that they be significantly unique. Unique in the sense that they use a lot of Covenant/Forerunner technology cobbled up by human R&D engineers, more so than the Spartan IIs ever did.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Everybody would be a "spartan" but they wouldn't all be the same like you are proposing.

  • 12.23.2011 11:50 AM PDT

Cant the UNSC make more Spartens II's or III's? So maybe in Halo 4 there could be more spartens?

  • 12.23.2011 6:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Da Mr Evil
Cant the UNSC make more Spartens II's or III's? So maybe in Halo 4 there could be more spartens?


There doesn't need to be any more Spartans in Halo 4 either than Chief.

  • 12.23.2011 6:53 PM PDT

Why not? As far as the UNSC knows Chief is dead. During that time couldnt there had been a Sparten II project or III? Wouldnt they want more spartens just in case?

  • 12.23.2011 7:00 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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What would they add to the story?

  • 12.23.2011 7:02 PM PDT

Alot it could add character development to Chief and seeing him deal with others like him.

  • 12.23.2011 7:12 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Da Mr Evil
Alot it could add character development to Chief and seeing him deal with others like him.


So could Forerunners, Spartans aren't necessary.

  • 12.23.2011 7:13 PM PDT

But the UNSC needs Spartens though for the missions that Marines and ODST cant carry out. There has to be spartens, the UNSC would be idiots when they think that Chief is dead not to create more spartens.

[Edited on 12.23.2011 7:28 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2011 7:27 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

There are already plenty of Spartans lying around and they are needed elsewhere than by the Chief.

  • 12.23.2011 7:28 PM PDT

What do u mean? what other spartens are still alive?

  • 12.23.2011 7:34 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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8+ S-IIs
300+ S-IIIs
Unknown amount of S-IVs.

  • 12.23.2011 7:51 PM PDT

But where?

  • 12.23.2011 8:18 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

No specific location.

  • 12.23.2011 8:19 PM PDT
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I honestly believe the Spartan-IVs to be part propaganda.

*My 2 cents worth.*

  • 12.23.2011 9:15 PM PDT

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