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Subject: Gravemind Spoiler! Makes u watch the trailor again and makes u list...

You are utmost observant. i commend you and all fellow halo lovers. Take into fact that cortana is also shorting out on her life, due to the increase of the knowledge she has gained from halo: combat evolved. It is displayed in the book she minimizes most info just to give her a little more life. Knowledge and emotions arent something to be triffled with. including her declineing life span and now the floods perspective or "Things gravemind wants to say". Now put your self in your position. You are stuck on a ship with a flood creature. yourr best ally has left but not without promiseing to return. your life is diclining and now you are gaining more information. what if the flood was really not hostile but trying to make its mark on a planet? what if the flood is the begining of all life? what if the one we call grave mind is a forerunner long left to do what he needed to? what if humans where with the forerunners at one point, This fact atleast could explain the certain historical figures left on earths history is used in a closely resembelance to the covenant language but with more caligraphic looks to make it seem important, During the books those of the Spartan-II project they enconter many of the covenants symbols ressembleing that of certain past cultures.How does it tie in? heh heh thats why i love halo, so many questions. so little time.....well thats my input ...have fun lol.

  • 05.09.2006 11:57 PM PDT
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Yeah, she's an AI.

  • 05.10.2006 12:01 AM PDT
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Maybe its just me and all the exitment but I think I noticed a connection too halo 3 in the second cortana letter where shes talking about making new freinds (Grave mind) and something about a demon apearing through black smoke?I think I am a bit off on some of the stuff here but I havent read the letters for a while and am trying too find a link too them now.So if anyone has any ideas or links too the lettere that would be great.

  • 05.10.2006 12:14 AM PDT
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i think someone said that normal AI's have only a seven year lifespan, he calculated it out and it turns out that cortana was just turning seven at the end of halo:CE.
could mean that she(since already going rampant) was easily corrupted by gravemind.

  • 05.10.2006 12:44 AM PDT
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Yes this is what most people picked up whilst watching it the first time.

It is either a refrence to the last game or it is a sign of her corruption at his hands.

  • 05.10.2006 12:48 AM PDT
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Yes, it's pretty obvious.

We all figured this out the first time through.

  • 05.10.2006 12:52 AM PDT
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I figured that's what would happen since the end of Halo 2. I think she's going rampant and is under the influence of Gravemind. I never thought anything different when I saw the trailer.

  • 05.10.2006 12:59 AM PDT
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i want to know 1 thing answer me this even if what you say about cortana being one with the gravemind does any1 know if the gravemind is evil because 1 good side of it is he didn't kill the master cheif when he got him from the water when he was unconsous and he didn't kill the arbiter and then he sent them to do exactly what the humans were trying to do destroy halo but search in certain places so i don't see if cortana has turned evil or is controlled but my thought is maybe they put his voice in that to mean sumthing like they think the same thing or bungie has just thrown that in to make us talk about crazily till we can't take anymore and HALO 3 is released out into the wide world.

  • 05.10.2006 2:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ziewl
She's either going rampant or she's speaking more profoundly because gravemind has told her something very, very special.

Maybe he's controlling her now? Speaking through her...


Ye and I think he found the location of earth if this is true, and was trying to stop Cortana warning MC...

  • 05.10.2006 2:22 AM PDT
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Gravemind controlling Cortana's AI system and gives cheif false orders?

  • 05.10.2006 2:23 AM PDT
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Gravemind isn't 'evil', he's the intelligance behind the flood, and does not want the rings activated either.
and I don't think gravemind is that good with technology somehow, he maybe influencing Cortana but i doubt he is controlling her.

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  • 05.10.2006 2:25 AM PDT
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well, since cortana was reaching the end of ger lifespan, maybe gravemind saw this and they somehow merged to give cortana enough life and more knowledge so that she could guide master chief in stopping the covenant. And maybe gravemind is some sort of mutated flood or maybe and infected forerunner who has lived a long life and sees that the halos and the arc are a threat to him and allies himself with MC to stop the halos being used again.

  • 05.10.2006 2:37 AM PDT
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  • 05.10.2006 2:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Slayer X5
Gravemind isn't 'evil', he's the intelligance behind the flood, and does not want the rings activated either.
and I don't think gravemind is that good with technology somehow, he maybe influencing Cortana but i doubt he is controlling her.

He might be that smart. I'd assume that gravemind contains the collective knowledge of all of the flood under its control, and with all of the knowledge gathered from infected humans and covenant, he could know enough to control a weak AI. I assume that's how flood work...

  • 05.10.2006 2:48 AM PDT
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I think the Gravemind sees them as pawns. These Bungie AIs like controlling people and have a history of having God complexes, if you can really call the Gravemind an AI. I'll have to go back and play Halo 2 again now. One thing I think is certain is that Cortana is now "rampant" and I suspect she has willingly fused with the Gravemind rather than being unwillingly possessed by him. They're allies now and they've made the ultimate alliance by merging. And I suspect their motives will make them Master Chief's enemy. Or at least make him their unwilling pawn.

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the part which gets me is.... I have defied God and Demons.....
Chief was described by the Prophets that MC is a demon.... the demon....
the gods are probably classed as the Forerunners.... so if he said that through cortana...
Maybe he has been deceptive to the forerunners, and is being deceptive to the chief as well... perhaps gravemind has been around from when the forerunners were first in existence...
MAYBE 343 guilty spark was joined with gravemind and was told to tell chief the opposite of what is REALLY going to happen if the rings were activated. It could be that the Rings actually eliminate the flood in the distances around the rings that 343 described in the first halo...remember that at the end of Halo1 we saw 343 floating through space... could it have been to tell gravemind of what was happening?


Everyone i just watched the teaser again.... and just before you hear the gravemind sentence.... you hear a woman's voice cry out.... it's definately cortana... i wonder why she is crying out... possibly gravemind told her of MC's fate...

  • 05.10.2006 3:55 AM PDT
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i guessed that also but i bet that i'm the only person who heard his voice but analyzed it.

i give you +1,000,000 zing points

lol AWESOME find this opens up a whole new demention to the story you are so fraking awesome NICE

  • 05.10.2006 5:55 AM PDT
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seriosly props to whoever made this thread

  • 05.10.2006 5:57 AM PDT
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the gravemind is talking through the ai

  • 05.10.2006 5:58 AM PDT
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you know what i think, since Cortana is an AI, she has the power of will to do what she wants, when in Halo 2, at the end of the credits, she was talking to Gravemind, we dont really know what happened in that conversation, but mabye she found something out, something very important. dont know if many of you remember this but when the Master Chief and Cortana were on halo, while they were trying to stop the prophet from leaving, she said that Gravemind betrayed them, that he was only using them. and at the end she sounded pretty pissed when she said shoot. but we wont really know anything until we play the game :( cant wait till '07'

and yes, she definitly sounds like she mixed in with gravemind. dosent mean she's betrayed humanity though

anyone know if this will also come out for the regular x-box? or will i have to break my piggy bank and buy a 360?

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  • 05.10.2006 6:05 AM PDT
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cortana begins to lose it because she duplicates herself in one of the books. this could explain her aliance with gravemind.

  • 05.10.2006 6:05 AM PDT
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i have played halo 2 and know who gravemind is but what is he because if it doesnt metion him/her/it in any of the novels (i dont know i havent read them) then he might be one of these forerunner things and you could controll him as a playable charachter or you might have to kill him wouldnt that be cool

  • 05.10.2006 6:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: NL David NL
cortana cant be infected by the flood because the flood only infect sentient beings, and as far as i can tell cortana isnt sentient, right?

what's to say that can't infect computers as well I mean they were trying to repair the ships in Halo 1

  • 05.10.2006 6:19 AM PDT
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ok so yea graveminders voice is in it, and some newb said ther earth is an arc, but did anybody notice the gun, it's the old school smg or looks like it, and before it shoots its death ray, like something happens, like if you notice around it starts to light up.

  • 05.10.2006 6:20 AM PDT

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anyone know if this will also come out for the regular x-box? or will i have to break my piggy bank and buy a 360?


360 only.

  • 05.10.2006 6:20 AM PDT

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