- BestSpartan117
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The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?
An inteligent reponse? I must be dreaming!
I disagree in that chief is an allegory is perceived flatness is a direct consequence of being an escapist character. The player must see himself as him and as such nothing is developed.
It doesn't mean he is like that as the books and even the new remlaimer trilogy have/will develop him more. Chief isn't a robot he is a person. If anyone is an allegory of that is Emile as other people have said.
Even in halo 3 the last wish MC had in the new alpha halo was simply to go home with everyone safe.
The arbiter became a hero the moment he abandoned his silly religion and fought for what was right not his side of the war to be sure.
Violence is a necessity in the halo universe as reason with the covenant or speciallty the flood wasn't an option.
Posted by: CmdrScott1701
Thus is why there may be heroes on either side of a war.
I do agree with your assessment here. It is not something I normally think about, however my conjecture would be almost synonymous with yours.
One other thing I would like to bring up about heroes in Halo that people don't seem to get is this:
Normal heroes tend to teach great lessons such as patience, sacrifice, or kindness. In Halo, the point is to teach against the Heroes' traits.
Ex 1) Chief is an allegory to Spartan society, which was an oligarchical affiliation that was known for its immense ranks of brazen soldiers and its low intellectual yield.
True, Sparta had some great characteristics such as courage, obedience, and organization, but lacked liberty, change, and art.
In terms of Halo, the game makes you feel as if chief played for the best intent of the humans, but that's the trick. YOU are the one who plays, thus imposing your own values on him. Why do you do this? Because to you, he lacks the good intent and charictaristics that you maintain.
Think deeper. Chief wished for none of the things. He is almost a robot: He has mechanical parts, a mechanical mind, and for all intents and purposes, a mechanical programming.
It shows that brave brazen soldiers have their duty, and are able to accomplish greatness, but are useless in a peaceful society, other than to keep its security.
EX 2) The arbiter is fighting not for his people, or for the brutal onslaught the Brutes waged upon him, or even because of honor. While each of these is a factor to some extent, the Arbiter fights primarily because he is a apparition of life.
More than the Chief, the Arbiter encourages good attributes to an extent, however he too is promoting vengeance and brash behavior.
So
Basically, they had some lack of purpose that had them fighting to the best of their ability. Sure, they may not be the toughest, but they were the loneliest, which prompts jealousy and transforms them into war machines.
While you were correct in such regard, I fail to understand what made you think they both fight for what they believe. To a closed extent: they believed in their side of the war. Expanding however, you will see that they had a lack of belief which lead to their unraveling carnage.