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Subject: We may finally get our hands (and mice) on those X-boxers.

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Quoted from MSNBC:
Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates on Tuesday announced a new cross-platform gaming service that integrates games played on cell phones, Xbox 360 consoles and the upcoming Windows Vista operating system.

The “Live Anywhere” service will be available as part of Windows Vista, Microsoft’s next-generation PC operating system.


Of course we'll have to subscribe and pay to play, but we will finally be able to show the X-box crowd what a gaming PC, mouse and keyboard can do.

It goes on to say:
In one example shown, two players, one on a PC and one on an Xbox 360, competed against each other in a virtual gun fight. Many future titles will be released both on Xbox 360 and Windows Vista, Gates said.

Do you think he means Halo3?!!!!!!



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  • 05.10.2006 7:03 AM PDT

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dude very nice find, I really hope live anywhere is not a hoax and microsoft does a good job. Time to pwn those controller people

  • 05.10.2006 7:32 AM PDT
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From what I can gather it's all pretty much true. The "XBox Live" will become "Windows Live" and we can all game together, sweet.... :-) This will extend to your "Friends List" being streamed to Windows Mobile, so your smartphone will let you know when people are online.

However for this great vision, most PC owners will be required to shell out for a decent PC to run Vista.!!

Halo 3, hmm, maybe it will make it to Vista at some stage, but I would think MS will want to shift some 360's using Halo 3 as a lever, so the PC will take a back seat for a while.

The only decent thing at present for me is my Live, Halo and XFire user names are all the same .....;-)

  • 05.10.2006 9:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iggwilv

Do you think he means Halo3?!!!!!!



Of course, Microsoft is going to take Halo 3 from the PortBox 360 1-2 years after Halo 3 is released, and put it on the PC.

  • 05.10.2006 9:25 AM PDT
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Unfortunately, it's a near impossibility, cross-platform gaming is hell. I very seriously doubt it would happen. Anyway, WLA (windows live anywhere) is just a cross-platform messaging and friends service, not a gameserver tracker.

  • 05.10.2006 9:29 AM PDT
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i think that means were going to have to pay to play halo 2 vista live i could deal with not playing agenst people on a 360 and just playing agenst people on pc for free then paying but it would be cool

  • 05.10.2006 9:42 AM PDT
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Aha! Now we will truly see who is the better shooter, us, or the console fiends. They will never be able to stand up to our divine accurate, multi-tasking instrument of destruction that is the mouse and keyboard!

  • 05.10.2006 1:09 PM PDT
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agreed^


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  • 05.10.2006 1:14 PM PDT
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And then again, we will be playin console people. Ugh! But yeah, it will be nice smacking them around with our superior skills.

  • 05.10.2006 1:20 PM PDT
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w8 i no the mouse has more precision but theyve got auto target and we dont so if they accidentally move the looking stick or whatever it will stay locked and we will always be in their field of view

  • 05.10.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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no, actually that goes against the code. everyone has to have an equal amount of abilities in online games, so if they have auto target, we will too

  • 05.10.2006 1:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: elmicker
Unfortunately, it's a near impossibility, cross-platform gaming is hell. I very seriously doubt it would happen. Anyway, WLA (windows live anywhere) is just a cross-platform messaging and friends service, not a gameserver tracker.


I agree with you on any current Windows OS but I think Vista may change that. Vista is "supposed" to treat games like the consoles do, sending the info directly to the video card instead of having go thru a app-link to the OS first. This may make it easier to pull-off cross-platform. In fact, M$ may use the 360 OS or something similar as the game subsystem in Vista.

Plus you gotta think with $$ like M$ does. The goal is to get PC gamers to sign up for a sucscription service to play with Xboxers. The bait is Halo3. Think about it.

  • 05.10.2006 1:59 PM PDT

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The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Posted by: OmniosSpartan
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I'M NOT PAYING FOR ONLINE!

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Me neither.

This is all getting a little silly.

There is really no reason to pay for this service, if M$ makes you pay to play Halo2 online, I won't buy it. My ISP bill is already enough thank you.

  • 05.10.2006 3:00 PM PDT
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This is perfect, my friends are always like, "you suck at Halo2" and I say "give me a keyboade and a mouse and I will smoke you" and they say "yeah right". finnaly a chance to whoop them on sorta uneven ground. as for pay to play, im not really into that but I suppose it works out since I was gonna get an Xbox 360 next year, seeing as my first priority for a console is Wii. :) send me all the hate mail you like about that last statement, I dont care, I never check my PM thing anyways!

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  • 05.10.2006 3:21 PM PDT
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ur dsl bill is frigging $80??? get comcast dude, I get a WAY fast internet for $4 more!

  • 05.10.2006 3:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Iggwilv
Posted by: elmicker
Unfortunately, it's a near impossibility, cross-platform gaming is hell. I very seriously doubt it would happen. Anyway, WLA (windows live anywhere) is just a cross-platform messaging and friends service, not a gameserver tracker.


I agree with you on any current Windows OS but I think Vista may change that. Vista is "supposed" to treat games like the consoles do, sending the info directly to the video card instead of having go thru a app-link to the OS first. This may make it easier to pull-off cross-platform. In fact, M$ may use the 360 OS or something similar as the game subsystem in Vista.


It's got nothing to do with the OS or the way it utilises the graphics card for the general os now, basically, what -blam!- up H1PC was the crappy netcode, because they pretty much ported the H1Xbox netcode, meant for a 100mbit lan, and added the gamespy protocol. Since bungie have a hand in it this time, they'll have proper hosting protocols, none of the P2P or ad-hoc crap older games and console games use. The 2 systems are a nightmare to co-ordinate due to the massive differences, i.e. Halo 2 is designed to keep running when the host drops and will jump to and find a different host. Doing this on the PC would be -blam!- stupid due to the fact that if this game is to be a success it will be relying on proper gameserver hosting, and not domestic line hosting like H1PC.

Then of course there's the actual hardware and software differences between the xbox and the PC. The xbox has a unique OS that is distantly related to windows but is not designed to do anything other than run xbox games and communicate with other xboxes running identical OSs. on top of that you have to take into account the lag compensation the xbox uses; it assumes everyone is running on the same hardware and software, with identical access times and hardware glitches. Throwing random-spec machines into this mix will make the host machine go crazy trying to keep up with all the data.

There's just so many incompatibility and network issues that it's not practical, or as far as i know, even possible!

  • 05.10.2006 4:10 PM PDT
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I do perfectly fine playing Halo 2 with the controller, but I still can't wait to get Halo 2 PC and absolutely destroy people with the great fragging devices known as the keyboard and mouse.

But I am not paying for H2PC to play online.

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  • 05.10.2006 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
But I am not paying for H2PC to play online.


you're right, Master Kim.

i'd much rather play other mac and pc gamers for free than play xbox gamers and pay for it.

  • 05.10.2006 6:44 PM PDT
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i cant wait to pwn controllers. s gonna be tite, yall..........?

  • 05.10.2006 6:52 PM PDT
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Whoa there. This doesn't seem too likely. Let me tell you why...

Firstoff, there's the difference in service. I mean, Xbox users shell out money each month to play online through Live. It wouldn't seem fair if PC users can suddenly compete in the games that console users paid for to use. Which means that either Microsoft's gonna stop charging Live users (an impossibility...it's frigging Microsoft) or charge all across the board. There will likely be no compensatory ground between the two, no "ability to play online but without Livestats" or anything of the sort, Meaning that if Console/PC is the case, we will have to pay to play online.

Secondly, there's the differences in machines. It's all good and well to make different PCs work with different PCs, but it's quite another thing to make a console work with a PC. Among the problems: architecture, computing power, ability to multitask, not to mention the differences between Mouse/keyboard and controller. they're not going to unbalance the playing field by allowing PC users to compete with Console users. Not after all the time they spent releasing Live patches to tweak weapons for balance.

  • 05.10.2006 7:18 PM PDT
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Nice that we will have an advantage with the mouse, huh?

"hey dude."
*player turns around very slowly*
"still got your sensitivity on default huh?"

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