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Subject: The old pistol? Why does everyone want it?
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The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,

  • 05.10.2006 9:36 AM PDT
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thats why its a video game you moron. have you noticed you can kill people with 2 melee attacks?

is THAT unrealistic????


your new, go play Halo 2

  • 05.10.2006 9:38 AM PDT
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I don't want it back, but are Plasma Rifles, flying alien space-craft and zombie-like creatures really realistic? I don't think so...

  • 05.10.2006 9:38 AM PDT

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I agree. The old pistol on halo CE was retarded. Totally messed up the multiplayer! Nobody wants it back.

  • 05.10.2006 9:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: weeazel
have you noticed you can kill people with 2 melee attacks?

is THAT unrealistic????

Not for a Spartan.

  • 05.10.2006 9:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: weeazel
thats why its a video game you moron. have you noticed you can kill people with 2 melee attacks?

is THAT unrealistic????


your new, go play Halo 2


Two melees is perfectly logical and realistic. The armor enhances their moving abilities. When they punch concrete it shatters. They could probably pick up a Warthog.

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i dont want it back... the pistol was cheap

  • 05.10.2006 9:43 AM PDT
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Listen, I was one of the best people with the pistol amongst my friends in Halo CE...and I was all for mostly scrapping it for Halo 2 for balance purposes. Then I realized the ugly truth...without the pistol, the sniper and rocket absolutely DOMINATED. I mean, they were the power weapons in Halo CE, but you had to know how to use them to be REALLY good at them. Headshots were significantly harder and there was no vehicle tracking for rockets.

The pistol was somehow able to help balance out those weapons far more effectively than the current weapon setup Halo 2 uses. It is for that reason alone that I think a "old pistol-like" weapon couldn't hurt Halo 3, and certainly could really help Bungie's apparent baby, balance.

  • 05.10.2006 9:45 AM PDT

Posted by: Spartan in Oslo
I agree. The old pistol on halo CE was retarded. Totally messed up the multiplayer! Nobody wants it back.


Apart from a little under half of everybody.

Posted by: noobnoobnoob
It's not the skin that matters it's the weapon.


Bingo.

It would be cool to have a pistol that looked that way however even it did just act like a pistol - it looked cool. And the animations for it were great.

  • 05.10.2006 9:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,


Because it was good and it was fun? I mean, Halo didn't get popular with that Plasma Pistol start.

  • 05.10.2006 9:45 AM PDT

Posted by: noobnoobnoob
It's not the skin that matters it's the weapon.

I think it's a good weapon that takes skill so BRING IT BACK BUNGIE NOW *mumbles to self about the good old days despite being 15*



Thats a good point and im going to elaborate on it.

The pistol shooting that far wasnt realistic, but for gameplay it was a great weapon. It was never the best weapon to have, but it was always a capable weapon. At close ranges you want a shotgun, at far a sniper, and medium a rocket.

BUT a single player with a pistol (with skill) had a chance at any time. Now those players spawn with SMGs and get spawn killed until they spawn close enough to a BR to shoot back at the guy spawn raping.

My suggestion....

Keep the BR skin for realism, keep the 4 shot of the BR because they pistol was a little too dominant sometimes. However, I want the single shot of the pistol so that the weapon is more consistent again (so you WILL get that 4 shot if you deserve it) and I want the range the pistol had again so that larger maps arent 90% running and are more consistent with the weapons.

  • 05.10.2006 9:46 AM PDT

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man i dont know where you guys were back in the day, but halo one was so fun because of the pistol. it brougt balance to the game and made it fun. so if somebody had a rocket launcher and they were a little far away u could still get them, same with sniper and you could kill a plasma rifle guy if you could get a double melee off with it. Then yea it might not be realistic but who cares, like they said earlier its a video game, anythings possible. but the pistol should come back becuase of the balance that it brought to halo one, and you had to have half decent relexes and aim to be able to destroy with it . You guys must not have not been very good with it, becuase it was so fun to play halo one just because of the pistol. Bungie please bring it back.

  • 05.10.2006 9:48 AM PDT

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I think the current BR was a great replacement for the pistol. I'd like to see the BR a little more powerful though. Go back to a 3 shot kill. The sniper can kill with one shot to the dome, I don't think 3 bursts from the battle rifle is to powerfull.

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the old pistol was total hotness in campaign but in multi player it was very unrealistic..3 shots in the head and u r dead.......ya ok............

  • 05.10.2006 9:51 AM PDT
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It Should only be one melee, but thats beside the point. If you read the manual The pistol fires 12.7mm semi armor peircing, High Explosive rounds.

Coupled with that kinda fire power and Johns skill and the armor, hed be able to reach out and touch someone with that gun.

And people complain about it unrealistic having a scope on the pistol. You forget that his helmet can zoom in and increase resolution. It was that, there wasnt an actual scope on the gun.

  • 05.10.2006 9:51 AM PDT
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yea it is retarted i mean think about it dual wielding a 3 hit kill wepon

  • 05.10.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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Perhaps an alternative to the pistol is to have a switch on the BR that goes from 3-shot to semi-automatic.... then you've got the power of the BR and it's precision as a "pistol".... how hard would it be to say

If the user pushes a button (or combo) it becomes a 1-shot pistol-like BR.

I liked the power of the original pistol, but i also like how it handles in H2.... I'm sure whatever they come up with initially will be patched only weeks down the line.

  • 05.10.2006 9:57 AM PDT
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if u bring it back wats the assualt rifle for?

  • 05.10.2006 9:58 AM PDT
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the battle rifle ideas pretty cool

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  • 05.10.2006 9:58 AM PDT
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The thing that sticks out to me about the pistol is that it was so "good" that it was the only weapon that you could use. I mean I know about the "skill" that it takes to get the headshots, but everyone had that "skill", and so everyone used the pistol. It just throws balance out the window... I mean if any of the pistol fans ever tried to take out a guy who had a pistol, and you had an assault rifle, you would realize that you got no chance and that is unbalanced.

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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,


Its a "magnum" one of the most powerful pistols in the world today. I think the pistol in halo1 was a little over powered tho. Please bungie make the pistol have a scope in halo3 and make it have a little less range then in halo1 but about as powerful as before the auto update for halo2. Also please make the shotguns range a little longer then having network host and please make the shotguns shells wide shots as in where the shells spread out like a real shotgun.

Also please make the Rl and nades explosions bigger then in halo2. Also please make the sword run on power for mutilplayer. Also please make it where if you aim at the head or the heart it would hurt more then any other part of the body for all guns. Please please bungie i know this game will be great but i want the guns more realistic. Yes i know this isn't ghost recon i just want the guns a little more realistic and what i already said.

  • 05.10.2006 10:11 AM PDT
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  • 05.10.2006 10:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: omo
yea it is retarted i mean think about it dual wielding a 3 hit kill wepon
Thats why they can make it a little weaker then the halo1 pistol. They can and should make the range a little less then the halo1 pistol and should have a scope for the halo3 pistol.

  • 05.10.2006 10:14 AM PDT