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Subject: The old pistol? Why does everyone want it?
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*BUNGIE BRING BACK THE PISTOL OR BETTER YET MAKE THE MULTIPLAYER EXACTLY LIKE HALO 1, FOR ANY ONE CAN BXR OR USE THE COMBO.* Even know the pistol took 3 shots and was the best weapon in the game but it also balanced out the game, because every one had one. It took skill to play halo 1, and even if you didnt have the skill to keep up with people who had skill it was still fun. The only reason Halo 2 did as good as it has is because the succes halo 1 had and the fact it was on live. Dont get me wrong i love you Bungie but stick with halo 1 their is no way it can be beaten. I am pretty sure i say this for many that all we wanted with halo 2 was more maps and a new story.

  • 05.10.2006 7:13 PM PDT
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I'm not here to fight, I'm not here to flame, just wanted to get that out into the open first thing.

I didn't like how overused the pistol from Halo 1 was. That's why I don't want it in Halo 3. But a pistol that looks the same, shoots the same, and has the same powerful feel would be awesome, the weapons in Halo 2 felt a little, dinky.

Maybe they could just make the M6D pistol just a little less powerful so that it's not going to be used all the time, I like pistol battles, but not every time I play Halo. It's good to have some variety.

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  • 05.10.2006 7:16 PM PDT
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All Hail to the M6D Pistol (Its from GOD)

  • 05.10.2006 7:18 PM PDT
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Well the pistol in Halo CE was a very powerful weapon, but the assault rifle was weak is CE also. What Bungie did was simply make it a little more realistic by switching the power between the pistol and the Battle Rifle, which really should have been in CE. But one thing I don't like about the Battle Rifle in 2 is that burst fire. The burst fire makes it a race to the headshot instead of a game of skill really, because all BRs shoot at the same speed. If I remember as well, the BR in one of the first videos had semi-automatic fire instead, but I might have mistaken that, but it really would help make the game more interesting.

  • 05.10.2006 7:26 PM PDT
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You're right, it did have semi-automatic firing, I remember.

  • 05.10.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeShot
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Listen, You haven't mentioned teamwork at all in your post. Power weapons should be useful when teamwork is applied to them, not just by having them. You make it seem like power weapons are meant to dominate the game. That's a load of bullspit. My team should win because we have a strategy that involves using the resources that we can gather and using them to our best efforts to win.

Saying that a team game would be better off without teamwork is that very stupidity you were just laughing at, my friend. Don't call me stupid.


I never said you were stupid. I said you were delusional. If you don't know the difference then maybe you are a little on the slow side.

What I do know is that you like to make things up as you go along though for no apparent reason. I never said anything about a team, or not using strategy, because all the weapon comparisons were used in a 1 on 1 situation. A BR should never be able to out shoot a sniper fom long range. A shotty should always dominate an SMG up close. Of course if a team works together they can overtake a power weapon. That's common knowledge. If they can't then they either need a better strategy or are just plain horrible at this game.

You make it seem like power weapons are meant to dominate the game.

Ummm, yeah they are. That's why they're called "power weapons". What part of that is hard to understand? They're used to dominate the other players. I've never seen a team rush the needlers at the beginning of a match.


Power weapons serve to give an advantage to a player in a certin range of use.

Shotgun close, sniper far, rockets mid. ect...

the bueaty of the pistol system is that these power weapons keep their importance but the individual does not feel overwhelmed. It is possible to overcome.

  • 05.10.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheRealOneEye05
You're right, it did have semi-automatic firing, I remember.


That was one of the gameplay demos, where when zoomed the BR became a one shot rifle.

  • 05.10.2006 7:28 PM PDT
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i feel like this topic is about the people who owned with the pistol in ce vs. the people they owned, very little about this game is realistic, so drop that argument, if people kill you in three hits, complain about the snipers that kill you in one instead. And i hope to god no one replys to this with the fact that a sniper can kill someone with one hit

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Old pistol... well lets see... I didn't like it for multiplayer purposes... to cheap, its a sidearm... In a game though, yes. Going by the books, I love to have it handy in case I run out of amo, but I like to play it as if I'm the chief. The power the old pistol had was a little to beefed up but it was scoped, 2 handed pistol with explosive rounds, it was also pretty large meaing its barrel is longer making it more accurate... I think the pistols we have now in H2 are just fine. If you want the H1 pistol pick up the BR, basicly same firepower

  • 05.10.2006 7:28 PM PDT
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Just read my post and you'll know how I feel 'bout the pistol.^^^

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  • 05.10.2006 7:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan in Oslo
I agree. The old pistol on halo CE was retarded. Totally messed up the multiplayer! Nobody wants it back.


The pistol was actually a balanced weapon, it wasn't retarded. It's a great covering weapon, as well as starting weapon. If the pistol is brought back, the battle rifle should be left in, it would be a perfect balance.

  • 05.10.2006 7:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: AlphaNeon201
Old pistol... well lets see... I didn't like it for multiplayer purposes... to cheap, its a sidearm... In a game though, yes. Going by the books, I love to have it handy in case I run out of amo, but I like to play it as if I'm the chief. The power the old pistol had was a little to beefed up but it was scoped, 2 handed pistol with explosive rounds, it was also pretty large meaing its barrel is longer making it more accurate... I think the pistols we have now in H2 are just fine. If you want the H1 pistol pick up the BR, basicly same firepower


basicly the same, how easy it would be to make the transition.

I think everyone here can agree the pistol should never be duel weilded.

And if it must come back as a "rifle" skin for realism, I can live with that.

If the AR can disapear and come back I think the pistol can make a come back in a new skin ( if need be ).

  • 05.10.2006 7:32 PM PDT
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pistol was god, who wouldnt want it back in some form?

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  • 05.10.2006 7:33 PM PDT
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I think they should bring it back with a 5 shot kill instead of 3. Leave every other aspect of the pistol like it was in Halo 1.

  • 05.10.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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My guess is if this game had any sense of realism and no auto aim at all then half of you wouldn't be able to land a shot. Not true for me as I play Call of Duty 2 where it is like you said, all weapons have recoil. Almost all weapons you can't even have a cross hair while standing up and moving full speed. The only exception is the shotgun in that game. Most of the time, except the shotgun, you have to hold "L" and aim down the sights/scope in order to get a good hit.

  • 05.10.2006 7:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,

Screw realism as long as it works and its fun.

  • 05.10.2006 7:39 PM PDT
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Just slighty modify the pistol but make it so you can't duel weild; after all a "MAGNUM"
is such a powerful gun that you try to even hold in rl with 2 hands it's still hard to control it. The MC is a super soldier taking the recoil from 2 magnums in each hand is almost impossible without injury.

  • 05.10.2006 7:43 PM PDT
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My policy on the pistol is:
remove scope
shorten clip to 8-10 bullets
make it stronger


What is a sidearm but a weapon to use when enemies are too close? Make it fire quicker but less accurate with each quick shot. It would become the snipers friend, the rocket's partner. What else do you need?

  • 05.10.2006 7:44 PM PDT
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Stronger than a 3 shot kill that takes about 2 seconds? No way.

  • 05.10.2006 7:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: AlphaNeon201
Old pistol... well lets see... I didn't like it for multiplayer purposes... to cheap, its a sidearm...

It doesn't have to be a pistol. It's the pistols attributes that people like, we could all care less about the skin itself.

In a game though, yes. Going by the books, I love to have it handy in case I run out of amo, but I like to play it as if I'm the chief.
Read above.

The power the old pistol had was a little to beefed up but it was scoped, 2 handed pistol with explosive rounds, it was also pretty large meaing its barrel is longer making it more accurate... I think the pistols we have now in H2 are just fine. If you want the H1 pistol pick up the BR, basicly same firepower

The pistols in h2 are fine? So you like reloading inbetween shots (assuming you hit ALL of them) in order to get a kill?

And the BR is WAY different than the pistol. First, the auto-aim. Second, the rate of fire. And third, three-shot-burst... which totally changes the strategy, despite what anyone says.

  • 05.10.2006 7:47 PM PDT