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Subject: The old pistol? Why does everyone want it?
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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.

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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.



The BR and the pistol are very similar. If you look what Halo2 has been boiled down to, its become "BR wars" instead of "Pistol Wars" as you put it. With MLG customs and Hardcore gametypes becoming the most popular. And if you notice in these gametypes everything except the shotgun is ignored. So if you're point is that the pisol made the game loose variety when the BR has become the exact same thing in H2, you're the reason theres an smg. It comes down to balance. Hey, who doesn't like balance? Halo: CE's pistol with a back up AR as a bullet hose delivered that (if you knew how to use the Pistol that is)....(cough)

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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.

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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.




The BR isn't overpower when you arn't the HOST that is.

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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.




The BR isn't overpower when you arn't the HOST that is.
Well, that's not a multiplayer issue. That's an Xbox Live issue. Hopefully we won't have this in Halo 3. But Live not included, the BR was a more balanced weapon than the pistol.

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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.


It was used twice as much... and... so? There wasn't exactly a shotty or Rocket spawning every three feet, so of course it was used the most. Yes, I agree, that is pretty rediculous if you allow yourself to get killed across the map by a pistol when you have snipe. It shows that you (or whoever the player was) is rediculously BAD.

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Posted by: l iam117 l
I don't want it back, but are Plasma Rifles, flying alien space-craft and zombie-like creatures really realistic? I don't think so...


Aliens are way more realistic than super pistols.

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You actually disagree that when you have host in halo2 that you don't have a distinct and unfair advantage?

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You know, I wouldn't mind if they brought the pistol back. Just as long as it's not in a pistol form.

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Posted by: Loki142
Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.




The BR isn't overpower when you arn't the HOST that is.
Well, that's not a multiplayer issue. That's an Xbox Live issue. Hopefully we won't have this in Halo 3. But Live not included, the BR was a more balanced weapon than the pistol.



In a lan situation, no. They are pretty much the same thing in the end, except you can kill somone in 3 shots with the pistol if you are good. Come to think of it, looking back it did take alot more skill with to 3 shot with the pistol than to 4 shot with the BR, I'm begining to think this is boiling down to a hate for the pistol's difficulty because of the love for the auto aim assist with the br.

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I've noticed that the only people who want the pistol back are those who sucked without using it or who are in it just to win and not to enjoy the fun that the Halo series brings to gamers and thats why it is the single most popular game of all time is because it is fun and gives people options on what to use.

Think of it this way instead of getting rid of the cheap weapons just add more weapons to balance out the unfairness that seems to be the problem with the weapons everyone wants gone.

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Ya, totally bear. I'm beginin to think If they gave the BR a single shot option it'd solve the conflict or somthing similar. Since people seem to hate on a little pistol being able to shoot with mega accuracy.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

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Posted by: Loki142
Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
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Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
Posted by: dotheraptor7
Posted by: EvilTurkey1021
It's not that the pistol was cheap, it's just that it was the best weapon in the game, and you spawned with it often. If the pistol came back, no one would pay attention to the other weapons on the map. Halo Multiplayer could have just been renamed "Pistol Wars." The BR is a lot better. Works like the pistol, except weakened a bit, and now it makes sence that a rifle is shooting out those powerful accurate rounds, not a pistol. If you want the Halo pistol, open your Xbox, put in Halo, and dominate everything with a little handgun.


I guess you've never played Halo 1 multiplayer.

The pistol was a good spawn weapin to have. It was well rounded, and gave you a chance when you spawned to hopefully take down someone else if you are good enough. However, other weapons were preferred and more effective in their "respective environments". Ex: Shotgun over pistol in close range, sniper over pistol long, Rocket over pistol for power, PR over pistol for close range freeze effect+melee, and so on. So it was the most WELL ROUNDED, but the best weapon in the game? No such thing, they are all designed to be effective in certain situations.
I played tons of Halo multiplayer. The pistol was used twice as many times as any other weapon. It got pretty ridiculous when a sniper was taken out by a guy with the pistol 3/4 of the way accross the map. It was possible to kill someone with a pistol with another weapon. It was just a lot harder. I think the BR suits the same need as the pistol being a well-rounded medium-range weapon, but without being massivly overpowered.




The BR isn't overpower when you arn't the HOST that is.
Well, that's not a multiplayer issue. That's an Xbox Live issue. Hopefully we won't have this in Halo 3. But Live not included, the BR was a more balanced weapon than the pistol.



In a lan situation, no. They are pretty much the same thing in the end, except you can kill somone in 3 shots with the pistol if you are good. Come to think of it, looking back it did take alot more skill with to 3 shot with the pistol than to 4 shot with the BR, I'm begining to think this is boiling down to a hate for the pistol's difficulty because of the love for the auto aim assist with the br.
EVERY weapon in Halo 2 had more auto aim. In Halo 3, I would like to see a little less of that. And it wasn't that hard to get three heashots with the pistol.

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Not that hard, no. But you have to admit its a hell of a lot harder than 4 shotting with the br. You gotta give me that, anyone can get a 4 shot in thier sleep.

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Yah! youre tottaly right it was also overpowered!.. no one even took the time to go to the sniper cuz the other guys would score points with their frekin dumb pistol!.. bah, i hate it!
BUt YAY for the AR!

  • 05.11.2006 8:09 AM PDT

Posted by: ThreeShot
People who actually think that it was hard to get a TsK in CE are rediculous. It's easy as hell. I have friends who never play Halo more than once every month or two and can get TsK's. People say only the skilled can do it...my ass! Even when I first started it took about 10 minutes to get the learning curve right. I know people that can constantly get TsK's but can't 4 shot to save their life!


You actually had a credible case until you started lying through your teeth there. Ah well, another one bites the dust.

  • 05.11.2006 8:10 AM PDT

"Do it right the first time" - Unknown

Because it pwns maybe?

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
Posted by: ThreeShot
People who actually think that it was hard to get a TsK in CE are rediculous. It's easy as hell. I have friends who never play Halo more than once every month or two and can get TsK's. People say only the skilled can do it...my ass! Even when I first started it took about 10 minutes to get the learning curve right. I know people that can constantly get TsK's but can't 4 shot to save their life!


You actually had a credible case until you started lying through your teeth there. Ah well, another one bites the dust.



Thats what i'm thinkin. : /

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I like the zoom. Weeeee

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The pistol didnt have 100% acuracy unless you knew how to use it. But i can give up the pistol for the BR... Make the BR have less of a set firing rate, and make it have single shot in zoom and triple in unzoom, and take away the auto aim and give it a bullet spread when unzoomed and it would be perfect (also increase the power of the bullets). In zoomed single shot it could be accurate and give you a 3-5 shot kill, In unzoomed 3 shot it could have a bullet spread so that chances are you'll land 1 or 2 bullets of each shot, prolly in the body. I think it'd be a great weapon then.

  • 05.11.2006 8:24 AM PDT

Q. What do you get when you add 1 man, 1 car, and 1 rocket built for a jet?

A. A black smudge on the side of a cliff.

It brought balance to the game. Think about it like this; The BR wasn't a new version of the AR like most people think; it was a new version of the Pistol. See, eveyone complains about the Halo: CE pistol, but the thing is that everyone praises the BR. No one talks badly about it like the pistol. So, in other words, all of you morons who say the BR is a wepon of true skill, and talk donw about the pistol are no more than hypocrites. 'Nuff said.

  • 05.11.2006 8:26 AM PDT

Posted by: Lt ForkHead
I love the creator of this topic

Down with the morons who want the old pistol back

Its called a battle rifle it has a 2x zoom too!! ZOMG WTF


It's called a battle rifle? What's called a battle rifle? The rifle in Halo2? This is a Halo 3 forum. Try and keep up.

  • 05.11.2006 8:29 AM PDT