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Subject: The old pistol? Why does everyone want it?
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Posted by: weeazel
thats why its a video game you moron. have you noticed you can kill people with 2 melee attacks?

is THAT unrealistic????


your new, go play Halo 2


The master chief can lift a tank. HJe can survive missile blasts. He can kill people in two melee hits. thank god for his armor and genetic modifications

  • 05.11.2006 4:24 PM PDT

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People are saying that they want to keep the old pistol because it was weapon which could match up to the assault rifle or the shotgun. This is exactly why we shouldn't include the H1 pistol in H3. It's not logical for a pistol to be more powerful than a semi-automatic rifle or a sub-machine gun.

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  • 05.11.2006 4:28 PM PDT
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I wouldnt want the pistol back with Halo 2's auto aim, thatd just be to easy. If they brought the auto aim back to Halo 1 style then sure why not.

  • 05.11.2006 4:30 PM PDT
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I agree the pistol was like a medium range more accurate little less damage sniper. Plus you could shoot it constantly with out reload. Geez its just a damn pistol

  • 05.11.2006 4:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yellow XIII
I wouldnt want the pistol back with Halo 2's auto aim, thatd just be to easy. If they brought the auto aim back to Halo 1 style then sure why not.


Yeah this is an important suject, I would not want the pistol back as it was with halo 2's auto aim.

Edit: losen auto aim, or "edit" the pistol

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 4:38 PM PDT
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Because you can actually out shoot someone who isn't as good as you.

  • 05.11.2006 4:42 PM PDT
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Because if you want it, that was the only weapon you used. Until Halo 2 came along. Then you used the n00b combo.

  • 05.11.2006 4:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omega Impala
Listen, I was one of the best people with the pistol amongst my friends in Halo CE...and I was all for mostly scrapping it for Halo 2 for balance purposes. Then I realized the ugly truth...without the pistol, the sniper and rocket absolutely DOMINATED. I mean, they were the power weapons in Halo CE, but you had to know how to use them to be REALLY good at them. Headshots were significantly harder and there was no vehicle tracking for rockets.

The pistol was somehow able to help balance out those weapons far more effectively than the current weapon setup Halo 2 uses. It is for that reason alone that I think a "old pistol-like" weapon couldn't hurt Halo 3, and certainly could really help Bungie's apparent baby, balance.


I was neutral to the whole "bring back the pistol in Halo 3" but this post made me think otherwise after thinking how many times Ive been sniped. I now say bring back the pistol in Halo 3 :)

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  • 05.11.2006 4:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gamma77
Posted by: Omega Impala
Listen, I was one of the best people with the pistol amongst my friends in Halo CE...and I was all for mostly scrapping it for Halo 2 for balance purposes. Then I realized the ugly truth...without the pistol, the sniper and rocket absolutely DOMINATED. I mean, they were the power weapons in Halo CE, but you had to know how to use them to be REALLY good at them. Headshots were significantly harder and there was no vehicle tracking for rockets.

The pistol was somehow able to help balance out those weapons far more effectively than the current weapon setup Halo 2 uses. It is for that reason alone that I think a "old pistol-like" weapon couldn't hurt Halo 3, and certainly could really help Bungie's apparent baby, balance.


I was neutral to the whole "bring back the pistol in Halo 3" but this post made me think otherwise after thinking how many times Ive been sniped. I now say bring back the pistol in Halo 3 :)


Thats always nice to hear.

  • 05.11.2006 5:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: ChippyMon
People are saying that they want to keep the old pistol because it was weapon which could match up to the assault rifle or the shotgun. This is exactly why we shouldn't include the H1 pistol in H3. It's not logical for a pistol to be more powerful than a semi-automatic rifle or a sub-machine gun.


So if the Pistol had the skin of a rifle, you would be fine with it?

  • 05.11.2006 6:12 PM PDT
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That's very true, for all the posts I see where someone says, " the pistol is cheap, I could die with sniper from across the map in 3 hits"! it makes me wonder, what's more fair, that or them having an SMG where they can do NOTHING except wait for death? Sure you could be killed, that's part of what made it balanced, with a pistol you rarely got into situations where you stood no chance due to circumstances. If you were good, you could live through about anything. However, other guns were better at certain ranges, and much easier to use to boot. The only problem with the h1 pistol was that it was a pistol, if it looked like a BR, but shot like a pistol, it'd be perfect.

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  • 05.11.2006 6:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sporefrog
Posted by: ChippyMon
People are saying that they want to keep the old pistol because it was weapon which could match up to the assault rifle or the shotgun. This is exactly why we shouldn't include the H1 pistol in H3. It's not logical for a pistol to be more powerful than a semi-automatic rifle or a sub-machine gun.


So if the Pistol had the skin of a rifle, you would be fine with it?


Thats what this kid, Brian with an I, used to ask all teh n00bs at HaloPlanet.

  • 05.11.2006 6:41 PM PDT
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That Pistol was so -blam!- i mean the design was so crappy.

  • 05.11.2006 8:03 PM PDT
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The Battle Rifle is the new pistol, stop whining, a pistol, which is a SIDEARM that is stronger than a rifle is very unrealistic, and people like realistic games, we just don't wanna stay dead, which is why we like respawning in games.

  • 05.11.2006 8:07 PM PDT

The M6D pistol was too uber for us to handle. If we brought it back it'd just be mayhem, chaos, and that being the only thing people use like when you Laned on Halo. Perhaps a cross between the M6D and M6C would be better, something with more punch but a more accurate and slower fire rate. Bringing the scope back on it would be cheap.

  • 05.11.2006 8:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan in Oslo
I agree. The old pistol on halo CE was retarded. Totally messed up the multiplayer! Nobody wants it back.


You should be like... permabanned for that comment. It MADE Multiplayer. It was NOT retarted, and people DO want it back. In fact, I hope that was sarcastic.

  • 05.11.2006 8:12 PM PDT
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They could just put the put the overpowered pistol (but still good) in certain gametypes.

  • 05.11.2006 8:12 PM PDT

Posted by: T3mpest
That's very true, for all the posts I see where someone says, " the pistol is cheap, I could die with sniper from across the map in 3 hits"! it makes me wonder, what's more fair, that or them having an SMG where they can do NOTHING except wait for death? Sure you could be killed, that's part of what made it balanced, with a pistol you rarely got into situations where you stood no chance due to circumstances. If you were good, you could live through about anything. However, other guns were better at certain ranges, and much easier to use to boot. The only problem with the h1 pistol was that it was a pistol, if it looked like a BR, but shot like a pistol, it'd be perfect.


I agree. I think Halo 3 should have a pistol like weapon. Essentially a weapon that behaves like the pistol (3 hit) but is two handed so that it can't be dueled. They could call it something like an upgraded Battle Rifle. The pistol balances MP, which is why Halo 2 wasn't as good as H1.

  • 05.11.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: m4st0rch13f
The M6D pistol was too uber for us to handle. If we brought it back it'd just be mayhem, chaos, and that being the only thing people use like when you Laned on Halo. Perhaps a cross between the M6D and M6C would be better, something with more punch but a more accurate and slower fire rate. Bringing the scope back on it would be cheap.


Well one of the charecteristics that makes the pistol The Pistol, was the ROF and the being semi-automatic. Cross breeding the pistols from 1 and 2 ( if thats what the m6c is), just gives me a head ache. I dont want to touch the pistol as we know it in halo 2 with a 16 foot pole.

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  • 05.11.2006 9:16 PM PDT

i got to agree with him

  • 05.11.2006 9:19 PM PDT
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The pistol was an easy way for Bungie to make all the games fair, start you with the best gun and you won't complain.. I think they need to try harder this time to balance the game out.

  • 05.11.2006 9:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,


People have just gotten used to it. I mean, I kicked serious ass with the pistol. But it was unbalanced. With weapons like the AR, plasma rifle, plasma pistol, rockets, etc, there was no reason to pick up anything aside from a pistol and a shotgun. This wouldn't work well in xbox live though, since it was far to unbalanced. Bungie probably wanted to promote the use of other weapons and combos when they took it away.
Though it was an awesome weapon and still looks way cooler than the current magnum, I think it is better left in Halo 1, or possibly Halo 3 if they balance the weapon more. remove the scope or something along those lines.

  • 05.11.2006 9:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: tha bRaDSTA
i will doggy style ur dad if ur keep it up.

I love how people complain about how noobish Halo 2 is.. yet there they are playing it.. and frequenting an internet forum pertaining to said game. GG.

Saying the Halo:CE pistol took SO much skill is like saying how you pwn'd your best friends retarded sister at checkers. H1 pistol turned every game basically into the moddern day "TEAM SNIPERS." Everyone using the same weapon ISN'T balance, sorry.

  • 05.11.2006 10:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: FlikNightshade
I love how people complain about how noobish Halo 2 is.. yet there they are playing it.. and frequenting an internet forum pertaining to said game. GG.

Saying the Halo:CE pistol took SO much skill is like saying how you pwn'd your best friends retarded sister at checkers. H1 pistol turned every game basically into the moddern day "TEAM SNIPERS." Everyone using the same weapon ISN'T balance, sorry.


You are inccorect, everyone useing the same weapon is as balanced as a game can get.

This was NEVER that case in halo. And nothing you mentioned would otherwise suggest the pistol did not take skill.

  • 05.11.2006 10:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: FlikNightshade
I love how people complain about how noobish Halo 2 is.. yet there they are playing it.. and frequenting an internet forum pertaining to said game. GG.

Saying the Halo:CE pistol took SO much skill is like saying how you pwn'd your best friends retarded sister at checkers. H1 pistol turned every game basically into the moddern day "TEAM SNIPERS." Everyone using the same weapon ISN'T balance, sorry.


People used other weapons in Halo 1, go watch a MLG video of Halo 1 becuase you have obviously never seen good people play the game.

  • 05.13.2006 8:20 AM PDT