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Subject: The old pistol? Why does everyone want it?
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Nope, toast the CE pistol put butter on it and shove it down the toilet, it would take so much undoing to bring it back. Bungie would either have to make the br/crb go away, which I doubt highly, or make every weapon 3 times as strong so that the CE pistol would not be a power weapon.

  • 05.10.2006 12:34 PM PDT

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And for all those who say the SMG sucks, you simply don't know how to use this thing. In a one on one Med range SMG vs BR, I may prefer to have the BR, BUT it is certainly not a lost cause to fight. Learn to use the SMG. It's not our fault if u suck with it.
Wait, how do you suck with the SMG? It is point and aim, with your right/left(for those on southpaw) holding a slight bit down to counteract the recoil. It does suck. It is beaten by a BR Long, Mid, and Short range. 4 shot to your face kills faster than the smg with every bullet hitting. This has been proven in games over and over. Medium range: The BR kills SMG even with a 5 shot, even if you SMG Burst. Long range: Don't even ask. SMG might land a few hits with Bursting, but, not a contest. The BR dominates Close, Med, and Far, unbalancing the game.


I rest my case. If you have never killed anyone decent at med range who's using a BR with an SMG, then guess what....YOU SUCK WITH IT! That's ok, because I suck with other weapons too, BUT you won't see me talking like an expert about them.

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  • 05.10.2006 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan in Oslo
I agree. The old pistol on halo CE was retarded. Totally messed up the multiplayer! Nobody wants it back.



I did not think anyone could be this misinformed.

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Posted by: A CHEEKY FELLOW
Nope, toast the CE pistol put butter on it and shove it down the toilet, it would take so much undoing to bring it back. Bungie would either have to make the br/crb go away, which I doubt highly, or make every weapon 3 times as strong so that the CE pistol would not be a power weapon.


option A: fully fuse br and pistol

option B: bring it back, like the AR.

  • 05.10.2006 12:41 PM PDT
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yes indeed, awesome then, classics now. my point is that im constantly looking to be challenged. since the days of atari and NES, i have pwned artificial intellegence. i get bored with games very easily. thats why i don't play regular NES or Duke Nukem anymore. they got old, outdated, and there was always something new to gain my interest. true, old games have a place in my heart for all thye good times, but memories are memories, cherish them and move on.
in regards to the thread, i don't want the halo 1 pistol back. but people may want it back to feel a sense of security and nostalgia for something that was super fun for them 5 years ago. its easier to remember how to use the h1 pistol than worry about complicated combinations of duel-wielding weapons and innovative new additions to gameplay, which, i dont know, im just guessing, make the game (gasp) a challenge!

  • 05.10.2006 12:42 PM PDT
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Yea really.

Old pistol balanced the game play and eliminated spawn killing, who wouldnt want that.

I guarantee if bungie took the old pistol, changed the skin to the battle rifle that everyone would shut up. They are just mad because the best weapon in the game is in the shape of a pistol.

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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,


I think there should be a rifle that shoots like the pistol and kills in 3 headshots and be exactly like it...Except make the actual gun model a rifle.

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Posted by: SavouryNothadoth
The old pistol was terrible. I mean, it was brilliant.. But it was terribly unrealistic.

Seriously. What guy, even a Spartan, could weild a handgun and shoot at 100% accuracy for miles... It's just not meant to be,


I think there should be a rifle that shoots like the pistol and kills in 3 headshots and be exactly like it...Except make the actual gun model a rifle.


Im with this

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Posted by: Dumbass469
yes indeed, awesome then, classics now. my point is that im constantly looking to be challenged. since the days of atari and NES, i have pwned artificial intellegence. i get bored with games very easily. thats why i don't play regular NES or Duke Nukem anymore. they got old, outdated, and there was always something new to gain my interest. true, old games have a place in my heart for all thye good times, but memories are memories, cherish them and move on.
in regards to the thread, i don't want the halo 1 pistol back. but people may want it back to feel a sense of security and nostalgia for something that was super fun for them 5 years ago. its easier to remember how to use the h1 pistol than worry about complicated combinations of duel-wielding weapons and innovative new additions to gameplay, which, i dont know, im just guessing, make the game (gasp) a challenge!


If you find duel weilding complicated, I imagine making the game challenging wont be a problem.

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Posted by: MC 077 Lasombra
If extreme accuracy and two shot kill is what makes a pistol good, then your no Spartan (Or Elite for that matter). The H1 pistol was uber, even in that game with all it's pros and cons. Way to powerful and way to accurate, it was more like a mini sniper rifle than a sidearm. Remember folks, a pistol is a sidearm, for close quaters and back up when your primary (AR/BR/Shottie, ect) runs out on the clip or ammo altogether. I hate seeing games where everyone is just pot-shoting with their pistol, it shows that players are only considered with quick and easy kills with no regard with being a Skilled Player. I don't care how many people you kill and how many times you don't die when you use the pistol, cheap is cheap and weilding a uber weapon doesn't mean you got skillz. You have skill when you take out the four chumps guarding the flag with only one clip of AR/SMG, a badly thrown grenade and no back-up.


Once again, someone is speaking on a subject they know nothing about. It takes THREE shots (head shots that is) to kill someone with the old pistol....not two. You people just repeat what you've heard others talk about even though you know nothing of what you speak.

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hey, any new pistol is better than the plasma pistol right now. That thing needs to go...

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Posted by: Dumbass469
yes indeed, awesome then, classics now. my point is that im constantly looking to be challenged. since the days of atari and NES, i have pwned artificial intellegence. i get bored with games very easily. thats why i don't play regular NES or Duke Nukem anymore. they got old, outdated, and there was always something new to gain my interest. true, old games have a place in my heart for all thye good times, but memories are memories, cherish them and move on.
in regards to the thread, i don't want the halo 1 pistol back. but people may want it back to feel a sense of security and nostalgia for something that was super fun for them 5 years ago. its easier to remember how to use the h1 pistol than worry about complicated combinations of duel-wielding weapons and innovative new additions to gameplay, which, i dont know, im just guessing, make the game (gasp) a challenge!


If you find duel weilding complicated, I imagine making the game challenging wont be a problem.


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  • 05.10.2006 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: HM Slayer
Once again, someone is speaking on a subject they know nothing about. It takes THREE shots (head shots that is) to kill someone with the old pistol....not two. You people just repeat what you've heard others talk about even though you know nothing of what you speak.


Ok, you can pick out the uninformed ones, BUT there are plenty of uninformed ones on the other end of the argument to. This doesn't make either your argument or mine any more valid. It's all about the meat n' potatos (facts and applications).

  • 05.10.2006 12:48 PM PDT

Posted by: HM Slayer
Posted by: MC 077 Lasombra
If extreme accuracy and two shot kill is what makes a pistol good, then your no Spartan (Or Elite for that matter). The H1 pistol was uber, even in that game with all it's pros and cons. Way to powerful and way to accurate, it was more like a mini sniper rifle than a sidearm. Remember folks, a pistol is a sidearm, for close quaters and back up when your primary (AR/BR/Shottie, ect) runs out on the clip or ammo altogether. I hate seeing games where everyone is just pot-shoting with their pistol, it shows that players are only considered with quick and easy kills with no regard with being a Skilled Player. I don't care how many people you kill and how many times you don't die when you use the pistol, cheap is cheap and weilding a uber weapon doesn't mean you got skillz. You have skill when you take out the four chumps guarding the flag with only one clip of AR/SMG, a badly thrown grenade and no back-up.


Once again, someone is speaking on a subject they know nothing about. It takes THREE shots (head shots that is) to kill someone with the old pistol....not two. You people just repeat what you've heard others talk about even though you know nothing of what you speak.


Yeah I love that... people baggin on the pistol when they've never actually played HaloCE multiplayer...

  • 05.10.2006 12:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: D_r0s90
hey, any new pistol is better than the plasma pistol right now. That thing needs to go...

LOL. I think THAT is something most of us can agree on =)

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  • 05.10.2006 12:49 PM PDT

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I remember a Halo tournament in my area a few weeks ago. The only weapon anyone used was the pistol. It was soooo boring. With the pistol around, nobody uses any other weapons, so there's no variety in the combat.

  • 05.10.2006 12:50 PM PDT
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Dude, at least the plasma pistol can take down over sheilds in one shot

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Posted by: weeazel
thats why its a video game you moron. have you noticed you can kill people with 2 melee attacks?

is THAT unrealistic????


your new, go play Halo 2


Let me hit you over the head twice with a 20 pound peice of metal and see if you die :p lol Anyways the pistol was fun but unrealistic.

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Posted by: A CHEEKY FELLOW
Nope, toast the CE pistol put butter on it and shove it down the toilet, it would take so much undoing to bring it back. Bungie would either have to make the br/crb go away, which I doubt highly, or make every weapon 3 times as strong so that the CE pistol would not be a power weapon.


It was only a power weapon when in the hands of someone that knew how to use it. You can make the same argument for almost any weapon.

  • 05.10.2006 12:51 PM PDT
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No because its too overpowered and unrealistic. It can beat a rocket or sniper guy.
Its basiclly a more round sniper.
No handgun can shoot a mile and kill.
Plus you can kill with melees because Master Chief is super strong.

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They will most likely add all 3 of the games weapons together 'cause if you look at thye trailer the cheif is holding a assalt rifle. And 2 its is realistic as the Spartans are geneticly advanced humans.

  • 05.10.2006 12:52 PM PDT

Don't you love campers? It takes a lot to be able to win the game with no skill and still enjoy some smores!

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Posted by: HM Slayer
It was only a power weapon when in the hands of someone that knew how to use it. You can make the same argument for almost any weapon.


SMG-Power weapon because.....hmm....lets see.....nope. can't be done. and i'm good with the thing!

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fast slaps thread starter.


this has been discussed like 400000000000000000 times in the halo 2 forums, can't we start somewhere positive?

  • 05.10.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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Nothing personal...

Posted by: Hunterelite
They will most likely add all 3 of the games weapons together 'cause if you look at thye trailer the cheif is holding a assalt rifle. And 2 its is realistic as the Spartans are geneticly advanced humans.

That'd be pretty cool- A little something for everybody.

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umm, incase u didnt notice, the br is practically the pistol, other than a few ammo changes.

  • 05.10.2006 12:54 PM PDT