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Subject: LCDR David Shepard vs MCPO John-117

Before we go any further, let us look at the facts:

Lieutenant Commander David Shepard
Age: 31
Rank: Lieutenant Commander
Height: Around 6'
Weight: Between 170 and 210 pounds.
History:
- Single-handedly held off a Batarian assault on the Human Colony of Elysium during the Skyllian Blitz.
- Attained Vocational Grade of N7, the highest degree of special operations training in the Systems Alliance Navy, making him the most elite of the elite.
- Became the first Human Spectre, Spectres being operatives who prove themselves to be the 'best of the best of their species'
- Destroyed Sovereign, a 2 km Reaper dreadnought, killed interstellar terrorist and vigilante Saren, also an elite Spectre agent.
- Was killed, and, cheating death, is then rebuilt two years later in apex physical condition.
- Took down interstellar power broker with armies at his fingertips known as the Shadow Broker.
- Stopped a rogue AI from escaping a planet and causing a technological apocalypse.
- Went on a 'Suicidal Mission', taking down a Collector Army, destroying a second Reaper in its embryonic stage (over 1,000 feet), and successfully escaped the blast radius with his entire team intact (or some if you were dumb and didn't do their loyalty missions)
- Stopped a Reaper invasion just hours before their arrival.
- Defended Earth, Sur'Kesh, Thessia, Tuchanka, and countless other species homeworlds from a Reaper invasion. (Presumed for Mass Effect 3)
Abilities:
- Superhuman Strength
- Superhuman Speed and Reflexes (Soldier)
- Biotics/Dark Energy Manipulation (Adept/Vanguard/Sentinel)
- Omni-Tool Various Attacks (Engineer/Infiltrator/Sentinel)
- Cloaking Systems (Infiltrator)
- Singularity Vortex (Adept)
- Power Armor, Nearly Indestructible (Sentinel)
- Combat Drone (Engineer)
- Biotic Charge (Vanguard)
Equipment:
- Combat Hard Suits and Kinetic Barriers
- Omni-Tool
- Biotic Amp, L5 or L5x

Master Chief Petty Officer John-117
Age: 41
Height: 6'10
Weight: 230-250 pounds (excluding ceramic ossification augments)
History:
- Fought against Insurrectionists for a few battles before encountering the Covenant.
- Fought briefly during the Battle of Reach, before being transported to the Pillar of Autumn for evac.
- Fought against the Flood and then destroyed the Halo ring to stop them, escaping.
- Took out a 2km long Assault Carrier.
- Killed the Prophet of Regret, a physically frail race of despotic leaders among the Covenant.
- Participated in the Battle of Earth, leading an assault which eventually resulted in a whole being punched in the aerial defenses, leading to the Battle of the Ark.
- Master Chief and the Arbiter lead an attack to take down the Prophet of Truth, eventually he is found and they launch an assault on the Citadel. Taking out two Scarabs, the Master Chief and Arbiter fight their way to the Prophet with the assistance of the Flood, Arbiter then executes Truth.
- Master Chief and the Arbiter save Cortana from the Gravemind, and launch an assault on the second Installation to light the ring and destroy the Flood. Eventually the ring falls apart, but the trio escape.
- Master Chief and Cortana uncover a Forerunner world and discover a threat of untold magnitude (Halo 4)
Abilities:
- Superhuman Strength
- Superhuman Speed and Reflexes
Equipment:
- MJOLNIR Armor, Energy Shielding

So now, we boil it down to this one question... can Master Chief even get close to Shepard before he rips the Chief apart with a whirlwind of Biotic energy? Think about it...

An no, there will be no poll, I find them to be misleading in regard to the actual conversation/debate/argument at hand.

  • 12.25.2011 11:33 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Do we really need more of these threads?

  • 12.25.2011 11:34 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Do we really need more of these threads?

Well, you see, I am actually trying to spark an intelligent debate, and rather than beginning with a post of Who would win?, I decided to start with a rather intelligent, fact-based OP, in hopes it would spawn intelligent fact-based discussion. So I took it in a different direction, well, hopefully. I am a bit skeptical to be honest.

  • 12.25.2011 11:37 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

It's still just going to end up a pissing contest between two fanbases. Just sayin'.

  • 12.25.2011 11:38 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
It's still just going to end up a pissing contest between two fanbases. Just sayin'.


Yeah you're probably right, but it is entertaining nevertheless to watch how seriously people take it... and to what extremes they will go.

(Eagerly awaits the arrival of the MC-tards)

[Edited on 12.25.2011 11:45 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2011 11:45 PM PDT

Your post seems biased.

Change that 2km assault carrier to 5km and have chief do it while free-falling from space.

  • 12.26.2011 12:05 AM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Well, if we assume that Chief gets some Forerunner weaponry/hardlight shields integrated with his shields in H4, then H4 Chief wins with a Vlad Tepes.

Original Trilogy Chief loses, even with Nylund-verse buff.

  • 12.26.2011 12:08 AM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Well, if we assume that Chief gets some Forerunner weaponry/hardlight shields integrated with his shields in H4, then H4 Chief wins with a Vlad Tepes.

Original Trilogy Chief loses, even with Nylund-verse buff.


I doubt 343 would take that route, although I would be seriously pissed if they did.

  • 12.26.2011 12:11 AM PDT

Out of all the Sci-fi universes Masseffect is probably one of the weakest ones.

Even their super-duper ancient civilization is inferior to some basic things out there.

Any spartan could throw a rock and kill Shepperd, even with all that badass those shields need a tune up.

[Edited on 12.26.2011 12:55 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2011 12:47 AM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: otterboyz
Out of all the Sci-fi universes Masseffect is probably one of the weakest ones.

Even their super-duper ancient civilization is inferior to some basic things out there.

Any spartan could throw a rock and kill Shepperd, even with all that badass those shields need a tune up.


Do the words KINETIC BARRIERS mean anything to you, otterboyz?

A rock would just bounce off. Guess what the UNSC mainly uses... KINETIC WEAPONRY!

Thel vs Shepard would be a better matchup.

  • 12.26.2011 1:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Lt.Cmd David Shepard?

It's John Shepard to begin with.

  • 12.26.2011 1:19 AM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Do the words KINETIC BARRIERS mean anything to you, otterboyz?

A rock would just bounce off. Guess what the UNSC mainly uses... KINETIC WEAPONRY!

Thel vs Shepard would be a better matchup.


It's funny because the KINETIC BARRIERS only activate when something is going fast enough e.g the near light speed of the round which the masseffect universe uses. I'm not even sure that the shields would activate against something traveling at 850 m/s.

Thel would rip him to pieces, hell even a grunt would if it was brave enough to pull the trigger of the plasma pistol he's wielding.

  • 12.26.2011 1:43 AM PDT


Posted by: otterboyz
Out of all the Sci-fi universes Masseffect is probably one of the weakest ones.

Even their super-duper ancient civilization is inferior to some basic things out there.

Any spartan could throw a rock and kill Shepperd, even with all that badass those shields need a tune up.


This is such an utterly ridiculous comment that I lol'd so hard I was practically choking on my own mucus...

  • 12.26.2011 1:53 AM PDT


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Posted by: otterboyz
Out of all the Sci-fi universes Masseffect is probably one of the weakest ones.

Even their super-duper ancient civilization is inferior to some basic things out there.

Any spartan could throw a rock and kill Shepperd, even with all that badass those shields need a tune up.


This is such an utterly ridiculous comment that I lol'd so hard I was practically choking on my own mucus...


Elaborate please.

  • 12.26.2011 1:56 AM PDT

Shepard's not amazing because of his skills in combat, even if he is a competent soldier. It's because he's one of the best leaders in the galaxy; he's an icon, ridiculously determined, his words hold tremendous sway, people rally around him and listen when he speaks, and he has the rare ability to assess someone within moments of meeting them and then say the right thing to further his ends -- his words and persuasion are far more powerful than any bullet fired from a gun.

  • 12.26.2011 4:39 AM PDT

Average Joe

UCLA - Aerospace Engineering

rather

  • 12.26.2011 1:31 PM PDT

Hey, now!

This is officially either the greatest or worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars. I'm going with the former.

Isn't the canonical Shepard male name John? Just wondering.

  • 12.26.2011 2:10 PM PDT

This didn't take long

  • 12.26.2011 2:37 PM PDT

Shepard had something they didn't someone nobody saw but me... can you guess? BIOTICS!

  • 12.26.2011 2:59 PM PDT

Show Faith/Defy Fate

Mass Effect is alright. But when its compared to Halo (pre-Reach), its just meh at best.

OT: This has to be the worst vs thread yet. I cant even begin to fathom why they would engage each other in the type of fight you suggest.

I wish ME would add a bit more depth to their characters and story. The potential is definitely there.

[Edited on 12.26.2011 3:20 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2011 3:20 PM PDT


Posted by: thebobafettest
Isn't the canonical Shepard male name John? Just wondering.


Officially there is no canon Shepard yet.

Female, male, name. It's never been stated.


I agree with that Shepard is easily a better leader. Like Kurt, Shepard gets to know those under his/her command for one thing.


Of course, Shepard can, in his/her default loadout, carry a mini-nuke launcher :). My personal one always carried a Black Widow, a sniper rifle that'd tear a human's arm off if fired from anything but a secured, supported prone position. Of course, she fired it standing or crouched.

  • 12.26.2011 3:26 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Do the words KINETIC BARRIERS mean anything to you, otterboyz?

A rock would just bounce off. Guess what the UNSC mainly uses... KINETIC WEAPONRY!

Thel vs Shepard would be a better matchup.


It's funny because the KINETIC BARRIERS only activate when something is going fast enough e.g the near light speed of the round which the masseffect universe uses. I'm not even sure that the shields would activate against something traveling at 850 m/s.

Proof of the statement that Kinetic barriers only activate when something is detected on a collision course with the suit while flying at a high speed...

Until you have proof, I will assume that it's on all the time, you know, because the freaking HUD shows it is.

  • 12.26.2011 3:48 PM PDT