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This post will be edited with a proper reply to all your points, but before, I just want to clear one thing.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
1. I don't think their misspelling of your name is intentional, making the intro to your last post seem really childish.He already admitted to me that he constantly misspells my name to annoy me. I truly feel sorry for him, but what can I do? It's his way to "troll me", when I don't give a -blam!- about it. Yes, it used to annoy me in the past (I better say this before he, in another pathetic attempt to troll me, looks for that previous post, I know he is capable of), but I feel kinda of embarrassed for taking him seriously. It's even funny, as I said previously, it's like saying "my argument isn't as good as yours, so I'm gonna troll you".
Kinda of sad, I could report him, but then he would lose that fancy title he loves so much, which makes things even sadder. Well, while you read this, I'm writing a proper reply, so don't post until I'm done!
Posted by: CavemanBCE
I literally cannot believe you haven't understood that this thread is about Emile, not whether or not the fact that Reach fell in a month or whatever other canon/sense violation is appropriate. You do not know how to read. No, it's not "wrong" that your post contains an introduction, but only the last half of your entire post has anything to do with Emile.Why are you getting angry at the fact that some of my arguments are not related to Emile? I'm still talking about the game he belongs, this it valid criticism towards the game and the character. In the end, all of my points lead to Emile and why it was such a disappointing campaign experience. So I can only talk about Emile, limit my imagination to perhaps one of the most horribly developed characters in the Halo universe? It's not like I'm talking about another video game, I'm telling important stuff, like my feelings towards the character BEFORE, and AFTER the game was released. I'm sure you are used to receive comments praising your wall text explaining how important the helmets are, but seriously, you should allow more information to be included in the thread. In the end, everything is related to Reach AND Emile. Can't believe I'm giving a justification for the contents in my post.
And if I happen to disappoint you in this post, you will no longer reply at me? Well, that's too sad, that you can't accept criticism towards your post. Then why bother making those wall texts? In fact, why tell your public to agree/disagree/add something to the conversation if you won't accept/limit them. Am I talking about Bioshock? About the new Zelda game? No, I'm talking about Halo: Reach, about Emile to be more specific. You give us information about the cutscene, you praise it, I tell you all the stuff wrong in that cutscene, and you reply at me "it's not about Emile, you whiny idiot". Way to treat your public.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
The characterization of Emile is, in my opinion, underwhelming, lacking, and at best subtle. I am only underlining things that others have missed or, as you have, simply dismissed as unimportant. If you make me repeat this again, I'm not going to respond to any more of your long winded, tear soaked posts.No one missed those scenes you are mentioning, NO ONE. We all saw how he hesitated while handling his knife to Kat, we all saw Jun touching Jorge, we all heard Emile laughing after Six informed about his noble sacrifice.
But we never cared about it because those actions never developed his character. The fact that you say that if they take off their helmets means that they trust each other won't make it a fact. All those scenes end up in the garbage, just for the sake of being there to buy the developers more time. I did say that Emile didn't trust Kat, or anyone in Noble Team because he hesitated in giving her his Kukiri, but why? I ask you, why is he hesitating? Why doesn't he trusts her? Shouldn't he already know that he can trust them?
I will say it again, I don't care if you never reply at me or not, if an action is never elaborated again in the Campaign, it ends up being unimportant an random. This could be acceptable in a shoot-em-all Campaign where your allies constantly die, I don't know, but this story is about a group of Spartans, how they deal with the invasion of Reach, but more importantly, the relationships they hold. I mean, isn't that the purpose of Six being the new Spartan in the group? To start knowing each Spartan, to create bonds, to gain their trust? Nope, as far as I know, Six, Carter and Kat could be the oldest Noble Team members, and it wouldn't matter, they don't care about each other, just like Bungie didn't care for this game.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
Kat isn't quite as "sassy"All she does is give me orders all the time. Never developed, never creating a bond with Six.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
Carter relinquishes his place as most important member of the squadAll he does is tell Six that Cortana made the right choice.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
Emile even acts like he has a little more respect for SixAll he does it tell Six to move on after Carter dies. And then manages to get both of them killed.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
I will say that Carter is portrayed as the no-nonsense commanding officer. If you think that he failed in that position, by all means.I will only say this once, he is a loyal Spartan towards his group, but that doesn't makes him a great leader, especially the sacrifice that could easily be avoided.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
Who built the spire? The ****ing Covenant, what are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything?So the Covenant built that long ass Spire to bring that Supercarrier, but you are missing the essential plot hole in here, how could they build it undetected? I mean, it's not like two grunts could build... you know what, let's move on, I won't even bother with this point, if you can't understand it, I'm really sorry that you can accept a story with such essential flaws.
Posted by: CavemanBCE
Emile isn't the kind of person to just wash away that rivalry like that. You don't understand that Emile is attempting (and relatively successfully) to lose himself in his armor. What he cannot completely hide, he masks with humor. The other Spartans recoil when he laughs, and that's just Emile's way of saying goodbye to him. If you don't understand this, you don't understand anything.Or maybe I'm not trying that hard to understand something that made no sense. Again, you are using that lame justification they used in the Legendary Commentary as a way to hide his emotions. Maybe Emile just happens to be a -blam!-, maybe he would laugh at everyone who dies because he feels superior to everyone. Again, never elaborated, just random and unimportant. But don't worry, Jorge will appear in Halo 4, it has been confirmed by Marty :D
Posted by: CavemanBCE
On the subject of the helmet thread, if you think that my post did not have any substance, by all means, but it's not "random" , as you like to say, that it is on the most popular threads list to the right of the forums.You said that Kat felt uncomfortable working with Spartans that thought that she was useless thanks to that robot arm. Could you bring something more random to the discussion? And yeah, I'm sorry about not posting the usual "great job at doing this wall text" that you receive so much in that thread. I sure would feel empty by receiving such replies, they are agreeing with me, they don't bring anything to the table. I would immediately assume I'm being praised by lazy people who can't contribute.
[Edited on 12.27.2011 8:27 PM PST]