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Deva Path
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
We are all going to get banned aren't we?
Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Posted by: grey101
Reach Falling in a short amount of time had significance. It showed the might of the covenant and how even at our peak we still couldn't match them. The game was horrable because it tried to equalize that event.
Coma, Not to call you out but i feel like you have a different perspective due to you being new to halo. It is going to be different for you to recently read the books then by the game then it is for us growing up with a certain mindset.
The Covenant have a arrogant and dogmatic approach to war. They don't improve upon their techniques because that is heresy, would be stating the enemy is worthy of their might. Which is why the covenant acting slightly smart for once created such a shock.
If A single CSO class ship can siege and entire planet, why didn't they just create a fleet of them an exterminate humanity? There are Hundreds Of ships that size and of simalr class in orbit above High charity, and we know that is only a defensive fleet created during war times (Contact Harvest IIRC).
So why couldn't they have taken 50 or so ships and rampage humanity? If they have Camo or some sort of Advanced stealth tech then why haven't the been using it the entire time? You could argue that this fits in with their dogmatic approach, but the issue is that the tactic is too smart for them despite it being executed poorly.
Reach shattered Both Aspects of the Factions. The dogmatic Covenant was changed to "stupid yet clever" and the UNSC was just changed into idiots. The Data Pads try to make sense of Reach but the Data Drops is only 343's attempt at mending that failure. Why would you try such an operation on your military stronghold of all places? It makes no sense,especially when we later learn that ONI had already been to High Charity atleast once.
I just Find it Interesting how They stated they wouldn't do a halo movie "unless it is perfect" yet they messed up reach.
Grey, I think you know I am not someone who advocated Reach's campaign as great in the past, but I think your reasoning here is a bit misguided.
What does it say about the UNSC's competence that its strongest HUB world fell to the Covenant in one day? I don't buy the argument that the Covenant was so much more powerful than the humans that they could decimate their worlds so quickly. Even in the novels, the description is that the Covenant decimates in space, but on the ground, it's more of a level playing field.
Furthermore, the method by which Reach was essentially captured in Nylund's novels is by numbers. The Covenant had millions of members, why did it not just send hundreds of warships to every planet? Halo 2 is also under question then, as even with Earth's formidable defenses, a couple hundred super carriers could make short work of Earth, and thereby the human race.
As more and more time goes by, I find myself disliking Reach less and less. While I admit to myself that Reach was not the best campaign ever, it certainly was not bad either in hindsight.
Misguided or are we not on the same level?
It is a fact that the covenant are stronger than the UNSC seeing how they have superior technology and beat reach's fleet in 2 hours. That is all that matters in space battles, the might of your ground forces is irreverent of your ships aren't of the same caliber.
If the covenant weren't so stupid and dogmatic they could have exterminated humanity within 10 years. Reach was going to fall regardless since the humans cannot replenish their fleets. If one ship falls they can't call another for back up, it has to be created which takes time.
If humanity's orbital defenses were fortified and their fleet could send in timely reinforcements, that battle would have lasted far longer. Something you will understand in about 2 days.
The Covenant is dogmatic, something that people have a hard time understanding nowadays.