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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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Which is why I base my dislike of 343i based on their previous projects, Microsoft's behavior (let's be clear, 343i and Microsoft aren't exactly two separate entities), and how Bungie was trash talked after Halo was completely handed over.

Oh, and you know, irresponsibly milking a franchise to death isn't helping their case.
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: cortana 5
Honestly, he should have died at the end of Halo 3 so we could have avoided this 343i and Halo 4 shenanigans.

*puts on flame suit*

It's a common western writing technique, actually: coming full-circle.

You first meet the Master Chief when he exits the cryo tube. You say good-bye when he goes back in.


Whilst I respect your views, I cannot abide by your dislike of 343, especially since we know so few details about the Reclaimer Trilogy.


[Edited on 12.29.2011 3:42 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 3:41 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
You know though, I've toyed with an idea for quite some time. At the end of Halo 6, Chief is damaged gravely, but the TO is defeated. Perhaps the Didact, or some other Forerunner character, lifts Chief up and carries him into a bright light.

And we never see Chief again. Pretty cliche as far as endings go, but at least anybody can be right.
I thought Matrix when I read that. Did we ever discover what happened to Neo? Was he dead?

Also, Reach would have left a bitter taste in my mouth, if the series ended there. 343 has really injected some much needed life into the franchise, for me. There's just something really exciting about the future. It is like Halo's been reborn, and I'm as excited as I was earlier on in the Halo 2/3 days (there was no real hype for CE as it was the first). I'm probably one of the few that is optimistic, rather than worried about Halo, going forward.

[Edited on 12.29.2011 3:48 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 3:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
You know though, I've toyed with an idea for quite some time. At the end of Halo 6, Chief is damaged gravely, but the TO is defeated. Perhaps the Didact, or some other Forerunner character, lifts Chief up and carries him into a bright light.

And we never see Chief again. Pretty cliche as far as endings go, but at least anybody can be right.
I thought Matrix. Did we ever discover what happened to Neo? Was he dead?


Oddly enough, I've never watched The Matrix. I'm somewhat familiar with the story, but I don't think Neo's fate was elaborated on.

  • 12.29.2011 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
Which is why I base my dislike of 343i based on their previous projects, Microsoft's behavior (let's be clear, 343i and Microsoft aren't exactly two separate entities), and how Bungie was trash talked after Halo was completely handed over.

Oh, and you know, irresponsibly milking a franchise to death isn't helping their case.


Their previous projects?
- Evolutions = an excellent anthology with many good stories and poems. The Return, The Mona Lisa, Human Weakness, Pariah and The Impossible Life and Possible Death of Preston J. Cole stand out as brilliant pieces of Halo literature.

- CEA's Terminals = an accurate and enticing portrayal of the characters (343 GS and Keyes) that was pulled off extremely well.

- Legends = what many consider to be a hit and miss, whilst most of it is pretty rubbish The Duel and Origins were very well-crafted episodes. However this was a clear attempt to appeal to potential fans beyond the Western parts of the world.

- The Forerunner Trilogy = Cryptum was the best thing to happen to Halo since ODST was released, whilst slow-going at first the book really picked up the pace 3 chapters in and focused more on the development of the characters than Nylund's typical action-fest style of writing. The Forerunner Trilogy is pushing Halo away from being 'soft' sci-fi towards being hard sci-fi, and from the first 4 chapters of Primordium that I've read the book will be equally as impressive, if not more so than Cryptum.

- Karen Traviss' post-Halo 3 trilogy = whilst I detested Glasslands, there seems to be a large amount of people who liked it, which must mean that Traviss is doing something right.

- Map packs = Certain Affinity have produced some excellent maps going back to Halo 2's Blastacular Map Pack. The Defiant and Anniversary Maps just happen to be the best things Reach has to offer MP-wise.

Whilst we've yet to see their own truly original work, the work that they've commissioned and had a large amount of input in has been generally very good. The Encyclopedia and Legends are their slip-ups, but they've fixed Reach's storyline and multiplayer (not that the former is of any better quality as a result, but it's good to have closure on the canonical -blam!--ups that plagued the last year); they do clearly know what they're doing with the story and I honestly don't care if Halo gets milked, as long as their products are of a consistent good quality then why should it matter?

They're breathing new life into the series and have their hearts in the right place with the things they're working on (mostly), at least we'll have a crystal clear picture of things when we finally get Halo 4.

[Edited on 12.29.2011 3:57 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 3:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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Look, I'm not going to argue personal taste. If you like it, fabulous.

But I have come to accept that if it has "Halo" on the cover, then people won't care what studio is making it. I'm not telling you what to like and what not to like.

I'm saying that I did not like their work so far. I do not like how things are being run and handled. I didn't like seeing Bungie tangled in a contract that required them to make two more Halo games, then forced to dump it on Microsoft's doorstep completely.

Personally, I would have hoped that Halo could have ended with dignity at the end of Halo 3.

This is why we have a million sequels. Publishers are scared -blam!-less of taking up new IPs, and would rather churn out sequels. This is not about whether or not the sequels are good. It's about moving the hell on and having the courage, as the industry in whole, to start something new.

343i has a team of talented fans and Microsoft's resources to do something great. While I wish them well (because who am I to tell someone to stop working on a project of such caliber) I just wish that things had turned out differently.

Business decisions suck sometimes, but I've got thick skin.

Anyways, I stand by saying that I wish it ended at Halo 3.
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Posted by: cortana 5
Which is why I base my dislike of 343i based on their previous projects, Microsoft's behavior (let's be clear, 343i and Microsoft aren't exactly two separate entities), and how Bungie was trash talked after Halo was completely handed over.

Oh, and you know, irresponsibly milking a franchise to death isn't helping their case.


Long post here


Back to the OP:

This is what I've been arguing for months. Halo's story-arch, the big threat, the huge struggle, was over. The galaxy was spared and our dynamic-duo could finally rest.

Everything else is just the falling action. We left him alive, and the fanbase will never be satisfied. Sure, they'd be enraged over the chief's death, but death is final and leaving us with the cliffhanger is, besides corporate greed, what gave us Halo 4.

[Edited on 12.29.2011 4:15 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 4:07 PM PDT

Eh, you can't blame developers for not wanting to take risks with new IPs, and without Halo, 343i might not even have been assembled.

It's giving people jobs, at the very least. That's never a bad thing.

  • 12.29.2011 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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"Might" is a silly word in this situation. 343i was assembled because of Halo. Its old name used to be "Halo Division" or something. It's literally a branch of Microsoft, born and bred. It was never an independent studio of any sort.

And I completely understand why publishers don't want to take that risk. This is just me hitting my head against a wall in frustration over, not only 343i/Microsoft, but the industry in general.

For the record, I think it's amazing that Activision, the king of franchise milking and all that is evil in the industry (looking at you, Kotick), gave Bungie the green light on Destiny. Now that is an encouraging sight to see.
Posted by: Wolverfrog
Eh, you can't blame developers for not wanting to take risks with new IPs, and without Halo, 343i might not even have been assembled.

It's giving people jobs, at the very least. That's never a bad thing.

  • 12.29.2011 4:25 PM PDT

It's only lazy if it's a cliffhanger and the character dies. It's only cliche if it's a sacrifice and the character dies.

Eventually every hero has to die, so why not include it within the "character's arc".

  • 12.29.2011 5:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
Look, I'm not going to argue personal taste. If you like it, fabulous.

But I have come to accept that if it has "Halo" on the cover, then people won't care what studio is making it. I'm not telling you what to like and what not to like.

I'm saying that I did not like their work so far. I do not like how things are being run and handled. I didn't like seeing Bungie tangled in a contract that required them to make two more Halo games, then forced to dump it on Microsoft's doorstep completely.

Personally, I would have hoped that Halo could have ended with dignity at the end of Halo 3.

This is why we have a million sequels. Publishers are scared -blam!-less of taking up new IPs, and would rather churn out sequels. This is not about whether or not the sequels are good. It's about moving the hell on and having the courage, as the industry in whole, to start something new.

343i has a team of talented fans and Microsoft's resources to do something great. While I wish them well (because who am I to tell someone to stop working on a project of such caliber) I just wish that things had turned out differently.

Business decisions suck sometimes, but I've got thick skin.

Anyways, I stand by saying that I wish it ended at Halo 3.
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Posted by: cortana 5
Which is why I base my dislike of 343i based on their previous projects, Microsoft's behavior (let's be clear, 343i and Microsoft aren't exactly two separate entities), and how Bungie was trash talked after Halo was completely handed over.

Oh, and you know, irresponsibly milking a franchise to death isn't helping their case.


Long post here


Back to the OP:

This is what I've been arguing for months. Halo's story-arch, the big threat, the huge struggle, was over. The galaxy was spared and our dynamic-duo could finally rest.

Everything else is just the falling action. We left him alive, and the fanbase will never be satisfied. Sure, they'd be enraged over the chief's death, but death is final and leaving us with the cliffhanger is, besides corporate greed, what gave us Halo 4.

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Edit-AJW, I understand your concern but Halo 6 to be fair, is miles away. Who knows, people might actually stop caring at this point.

Had he died in H3 would have been a more fitting role IMO, anything after this is just like Cortana 5 mentioned as "failing action". It wouldn't amount to as much significance and the fanbase won't be satisfied.

The only way they can kill him off successfully again[IMO] would be if they done it well. Akin to Kurt in Ghost of Onyx. Something that is beyond drivel which extends Halo's lifespan.

[Edited on 12.29.2011 6:48 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 5:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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Thank you for not flaming me. I've been poo-poo'd across multiple websites for what I've been saying about this.
Posted by: ninjakenzen
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I salute you.

Edit-AJW, I understand your concern but Halo 6 to be fair, is miles away. Who knows, people might actually stop caring at this point.

Had he died in H3 would have been a more fitting role IMO, anything after this is just like Cortana 5 mentioned as "failing action". It wouldn't amount to as much significance and the fanbase won't be satisfied.

The only way they can kill him off successfully again[IMO] would be if they done it well. Akin to Kurt in Ghost of Onyx. Something that is beyond drivel which extends Halo's lifespan.

  • 12.29.2011 9:30 PM PDT


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Posted by: cortana 5
Which is why I base my dislike of 343i based on their previous projects, Microsoft's behavior (let's be clear, 343i and Microsoft aren't exactly two separate entities), and how Bungie was trash talked after Halo was completely handed over.

Oh, and you know, irresponsibly milking a franchise to death isn't helping their case.


Their previous projects?
- Evolutions = an excellent anthology with many good stories and poems. The Return, The Mona Lisa, Human Weakness, Pariah and The Impossible Life and Possible Death of Preston J. Cole stand out as brilliant pieces of Halo literature.

- CEA's Terminals = an accurate and enticing portrayal of the characters (343 GS and Keyes) that was pulled off extremely well.

- Legends = what many consider to be a hit and miss, whilst most of it is pretty rubbish The Duel and Origins were very well-crafted episodes. However this was a clear attempt to appeal to potential fans beyond the Western parts of the world.

- The Forerunner Trilogy = Cryptum was the best thing to happen to Halo since ODST was released, whilst slow-going at first the book really picked up the pace 3 chapters in and focused more on the development of the characters than Nylund's typical action-fest style of writing. The Forerunner Trilogy is pushing Halo away from being 'soft' sci-fi towards being hard sci-fi, and from the first 4 chapters of Primordium that I've read the book will be equally as impressive, if not more so than Cryptum.

- Karen Traviss' post-Halo 3 trilogy = whilst I detested Glasslands, there seems to be a large amount of people who liked it, which must mean that Traviss is doing something right.

- Map packs = Certain Affinity have produced some excellent maps going back to Halo 2's Blastacular Map Pack. The Defiant and Anniversary Maps just happen to be the best things Reach has to offer MP-wise.

Whilst we've yet to see their own truly original work, the work that they've commissioned and had a large amount of input in has been generally very good. The Encyclopedia and Legends are their slip-ups, but they've fixed Reach's storyline and multiplayer (not that the former is of any better quality as a result, but it's good to have closure on the canonical -blam!--ups that plagued the last year); they do clearly know what they're doing with the story and I honestly don't care if Halo gets milked, as long as their products are of a consistent good quality then why should it matter?

They're breathing new life into the series and have their hearts in the right place with the things they're working on (mostly), at least we'll have a crystal clear picture of things when we finally get Halo 4.


This.

I see Cortana 5 is one of those annoying hipster-types which label sequels and franchises as "milking" regardless of the quality.

What is the definition of milking, exactly anyway? Making games for money? Because oh yeah-- that's why Halo was made in the first place. Nothing has changed.

It's the same baseless and void argument against a Halo 2 Anniversary being made. As long as the product is widely adored and receive well, who cares if the franchise is being so-called "milked"?

And your other reasons for hating 343 makes little sense due to the fact that none of their work thus far has involved the entire company like Halo 4, which isn't even out yet.

[Edited on 12.29.2011 10:17 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 10:15 PM PDT

Either needs him to be MIA but not showing whether hes alive or not. Or he could die saving many in a suicide mission. Or lastly end it with a cliff hanger.

  • 12.29.2011 10:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
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Let's get this straight:

I am not telling you what to like. I am stating why I do not support 343i and why I have no interest in the product titled "Halo 4."

I am not labeling every sequel ever made as bad or as "milking." Making games for money is a business. "Milking" is more a matter of principle. It's when a series is being continued passed its expiration date.

I am stating why I feel that Halo is being milked. Why I feel that this franchise may easily be driven into the ground.

I just stated that this is not about the quality of the product. It's about the integrity of a franchise and the attitude of Microsoft and the rest of the game development community.

And I'm not going to excuse 343i for sub-par work. Their resources are huge, even with only part of the studio. I am going to decide on my purchase based on the studio's pedigree, not on the fact that the game has "Halo" on the cover.

What is so bad about me stating that I will not buy a game or support its studio based on my personal taste and opinion of the studio making it? Where and when did I ever tell someone to join me in wallowing in a hipster attitude?

I don't make a habit of labeling a product as "bad" just to look like a non-conformist. I'm a big girl and I can informed choices for myself.

Oh, and for the record, I bought CEA. I found the idea of an anniversary edition of Halo to be in good taste. As for making three more games based on the falling action of the original trilogy arc, I don't like the idea. I have no interest in finding out what happens and so I'm not going to waste my time and money.

If you like the idea, you're welcome to go ahead and get the game. Should you find the product to be of good quality and to your taste, play it. I do actually encourage people to play games that they enjoy. While I may not agree with them about the product, I'm not going to tell someone what to play.
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
This.

I see Cortana 5 is one of those annoying hipster-types which label sequels and franchises as "milking" regardless of the quality.

What is the definition of milking, exactly anyway? Making games for money? Because oh yeah-- that's why Halo was made in the first place. Nothing has changed.

It's the same baseless and void argument against a Halo 2 Anniversary being made. As long as the product is widely adored and receive well, who cares if the franchise is being so-called "milked"?

And your other reasons for hating 343 makes little sense due to the fact that none of their work thus far has involved the entire company like Halo 4, which isn't even out yet.


[Edited on 12.29.2011 10:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I really hate to be the dick her cortana but i have to say it.

Since you clearly have no disregard for the next trilogy do you really need to come to the universe forum and express that hate? You have been saying this for months, we understand, but there comes a time where it gets old.

I get the reasons why you aren't supporting the next trilogy but there still are people around here that support it. The universe forum is already dead, the last thing we need is this kind of stuff (even if it is an opinion) to completely kill it off.

  • 12.30.2011 1:28 AM PDT

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  • 12.30.2011 1:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
This is what I've been arguing for months. Halo's story-arch, the big threat, the huge struggle, was over. The galaxy was spared and our dynamic-duo could finally rest.


I'd just like to weigh in here that this is completely untrue, even in Halo 3 we were given many notions that this was not the end. The only thing that Halo 3 ending was the Human-Covenant war.

Gravemind asserts that the destruction of Installation 04B would only delay his return and that he will endure, Mendicant Bias tells John that he's sending him to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement (this alone opens up the doors for a whole new trilogy), there are still Insurrectionists and dissidents out there, there are still 6 Halos primed and ready to fire with Flood spread/contained on a large number of various installations.

Halo 3 signified the end of nothing other than the H-C war, there are still stories to be told.


Posted by: ninjakenzen
Edit-AJW, I understand your concern but Halo 6 to be fair, is miles away. Who knows, people might actually stop caring at this point.


But they might not and 343 might to a fantastic job, we don't know but at this point anything can happen.

Had he died in H3 would have been a more fitting role IMO, anything after this is just like Cortana 5 mentioned as "failing action". It wouldn't amount to as much significance and the fanbase won't be satisfied.

Again, read the first part of my post. Also, to extend it, the Forerunner Trilogy is pushing towards a much larger-scale conflict with Forerunners, Precursors and what-not, it's not "failing action" at all and from the looks of it will have even more significance because the H-C war was always a small part of a much larger story.

The only way they can kill him off successfully again[IMO] would be if they done it well. Akin to Kurt in Ghost of Onyx. Something that is beyond drivel which extends Halo's lifespan.

I agree.

[Edited on 12.30.2011 3:51 AM PST]

  • 12.30.2011 3:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
I really hate to be the dick her cortana but i have to say it.

Since you clearly have no disregard for the next trilogy do you really need to come to the universe forum and express that hate? You have been saying this for months, we understand, but there comes a time where it gets old.

I get the reasons why you aren't supporting the next trilogy but there still are people around here that support it. The universe forum is already dead, the last thing we need is this kind of stuff (even if it is an opinion) to completely kill it off.
I'll translate this: "You have an opinion that conflicts with mine, so rather than accept this fact like an adult, can you please just leave so I my friends and I can continue on in our like-minded circle jerk?"

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Posted by: grey101
dick her cortana


lol

  • 12.30.2011 9:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
Look, I'm not going to argue personal taste. If you like it, fabulous.

But I have come to accept that if it has "Halo" on the cover, then people won't care what studio is making it. I'm not telling you what to like and what not to like.

I'm saying that I did not like their work so far. I do not like how things are being run and handled. I didn't like seeing Bungie tangled in a contract that required them to make two more Halo games, then forced to dump it on Microsoft's doorstep completely.

Personally, I would have hoped that Halo could have ended with dignity at the end of Halo 3.

This is why we have a million sequels. Publishers are scared -blam!-less of taking up new IPs, and would rather churn out sequels. This is not about whether or not the sequels are good. It's about moving the hell on and having the courage, as the industry in whole, to start something new.

343i has a team of talented fans and Microsoft's resources to do something great. While I wish them well (because who am I to tell someone to stop working on a project of such caliber) I just wish that things had turned out differently.

Business decisions suck sometimes, but I've got thick skin.

Anyways, I stand by saying that I wish it ended at Halo 3.

Thank you, good sir.

  • 12.30.2011 10:01 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
... otherwise the player is left with no satisfaction.

A great man named Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a great series once called Sherlock Holmes, after many years of writing the adventures of his iconic character he wrote to his mother saying, "I think of slaying Holmes and winding him up for good and all. He takes my mind from better things." His mother responded, "You may do what you deem fit, but the crowds will not take this lightheartedly."

This is absolutely applicable to Halo, Doyle justified the killing-off of Sherlock by saying that the protagonist was at the height of his story in the most important part of his life and once that was over he must be done away with because any story following that same character will be mundane in comparison.

Approaching us now is the Reclaimer Trilogy, we have been told by 343 that they have a definite end planned for the series, we have also been told that John faces an "ancient enemy that threatens the entire universe", hyperbole or not this statement clearly shows us that this will be the most dangerous and important thing that John has to go through. This also means that in order for any satisfying conclusion to be reached, John, like Sherlock Holmes, the ever-enduring hero, has to die.

Let's face it, after this ancient enemy has been defeated and the universe is forever safe, what else is left for John to do? What else is left for any Spartan to do? I don't see any of them being integrated into normal society and settling down with a family after being honourably discharged, with no threat around they cease to have a purpose and that brings down the character in the eyes of the player. For a super-soldier bred for a life of warfare to die anywhere other than the battlefield would be an insult, ergo in order for the Reclaimer Trilogy to deliver a truly satisfying ending to the character arc of John, he must die.

Sir Arthur Conan doyle was forced by the world to bring Back Sherlock so bad example

  • 12.30.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Except the hero dying is a ridiculously cliche and lazy way to conclude a character's arc.


No doubt, let's see something original for a change.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
I really hate to be the dick her cortana but i have to say it.

Since you clearly have no disregard for the next trilogy do you really need to come to the universe forum and express that hate? You have been saying this for months, we understand, but there comes a time where it gets old.

I get the reasons why you aren't supporting the next trilogy but there still are people around here that support it. The universe forum is already dead, the last thing we need is this kind of stuff (even if it is an opinion) to completely kill it off.
I'll translate this: "You have an opinion that conflicts with mine, so rather than accept this fact like an adult, can you please just leave so I my friends and I can continue on in our like-minded circle jerk?"


Why are you being childish? I have no problem with her opinion whatsoever and what you said was really uncalled for. I am just saying that she doesn't need to plaster this around all the time, just like i don't support the people going to every thread ranting about how "bad" Glasslands was.

You need to calm down.

  • 12.30.2011 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
dick her cortana


lol


XD HAHAHAHAHA!!!! wtf man...

  • 12.30.2011 1:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: cortana 5
Look, I'm not going to argue personal taste. If you like it, fabulous.

But I have come to accept that if it has "Halo" on the cover, then people won't care what studio is making it. I'm not telling you what to like and what not to like.

I'm saying that I did not like their work so far. I do not like how things are being run and handled. I didn't like seeing Bungie tangled in a contract that required them to make two more Halo games, then forced to dump it on Microsoft's doorstep completely.

Personally, I would have hoped that Halo could have ended with dignity at the end of Halo 3.

This is why we have a million sequels. Publishers are scared -blam!-less of taking up new IPs, and would rather churn out sequels. This is not about whether or not the sequels are good. It's about moving the hell on and having the courage, as the industry in whole, to start something new.

343i has a team of talented fans and Microsoft's resources to do something great. While I wish them well (because who am I to tell someone to stop working on a project of such caliber) I just wish that things had turned out differently.

Business decisions suck sometimes, but I've got thick skin.

Anyways, I stand by saying that I wish it ended at Halo 3.

Thank you, good sir.


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  • 12.30.2011 1:02 PM PDT

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It would feel...predictable if he died,yet predictable if he lived. I would rather have a limbo in between where we really question his final fate. An ending that is open to interpretation, but not so much as to require a secondary story to close it.

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  • 12.30.2011 2:10 PM PDT