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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ajw34307

- The second Ring is destroyed by the arrival of a Fortress-class ship, 5 Forerunner-controlled Halos remaining, 3 of MB's still active.

- 5 Forerunner-controlled Halos make it through, though extremely badly damaged.

- 6 Halos arrive at the Ark.
Slowly it dawned on me that I was looking upon another array of installations: six rings, each rising from one of the
petals of an enormous flower.


- 3 Halos unaccounted for.


Highly confused.

I remember one making it through Fine and i remember Bornstellar and a second ring both making it through at the same time. Right before he made it through, He commented on the portal changing color due to being stressed out, And stated the remaining Rings were about to fire on the capital.


When he Wakes up at the Ark, He states there are new Halos finishing construction there and comments on the Damaged Halo that just arrived. He Later says he would "make sure" that the other halo's don't return to get repaired. Implying that he is going to destroy them.

  • 12.31.2011 10:23 AM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

nope.avi

John doesn't have to die to end of the story.
The alternative is to show the final corruption and death of cortana and johns retirement from active duty

  • 12.31.2011 1:48 PM PDT

I believe although it is a cliché and could be executed better I do believe that John does need to have an end whether it be by death or disappearance he does need to have some type of end. Any great science fiction, space opera, drama such as Halo needs some type of end just like any other story. I would of been happy if they would have ended it at Halo 3 for the reason of it gave us all a since of mystery...A since of wonder like none other. This is needed to make something so incredible like Halo it needs to keep us wondering...To keep it on our minds....This is what kept us along with Halo this amazing journey hasn't it? John indeed needs in end...Let's all pray 343i doesn't just kill him in a cliché death...They must give us a since of mystery that captivated us in Halo 3...

  • 12.31.2011 8:24 PM PDT

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Agreed as for the satisfying ending. I'll be sad if MC does die (we can't call him John to be politically correct because the books are not tied to the games. Even though the characters are based off of Halo, it's still technically not connected), but that is the only true way to end the series. On top of that he will have to die in the battlefield. It can't be a "Oh he got old" thing. The only suitable way for a hero of MC's stature to die would be for him to die by sacrificing to end the war. That's it.

  • 12.31.2011 8:45 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: Twinkerdoodle
Agreed as for the satisfying ending. I'll be sad if MC does die (we can't call him John to be politically correct because the books are not tied to the games. Even though the characters are based off of Halo, it's still technically not connected), but that is the only true way to end the series. On top of that he will have to die in the battlefield. It can't be a "Oh he got old" thing. The only suitable way for a hero of MC's stature to die would be for him to die by sacrificing to end the war. That's it.


Erm... No.

  • 01.01.2012 5:22 AM PDT

Show Faith/Defy Fate

Wot?

  • 01.01.2012 7:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Twinkerdoodle
Agreed as for the satisfying ending. I'll be sad if MC does die (we can't call him John to be politically correct because the books are not tied to the games.


"It's been an honor serving you, John..."

  • 01.01.2012 11:28 AM PDT

I imagine the end of Halo 6 will happen like this: Cortana manages to stay intact until the very last chapters of Halo 6, she rapidly begins to go rampant. Just at the very cusp of total system failure, John uses Forerunner tech and sacrifices his physical being by splicing himself into Cortana's matrices, essentially uniting with Cortana as a single, artificial being.

Shortly thereafter, the UNSC and/or ONI discover and rescue the AI. John and Cortana are united, John can continue to protect humanity, and Cortana can avoid rampancy.

This is, of course, my opinion and complete speculation.

  • 01.01.2012 12:08 PM PDT

haha

Well spartans are never KIA, and thats been a major theme in halo so, if they end it with him dying of sort, they will have it be a mystery, and label MC MIA.

  • 01.01.2012 3:02 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?


Posted by: Fr0zen Tundra1
Well spartans are never KIA, and thats been a major theme in halo so, if they end it with him dying of sort, they will have it be a mystery, and label MC MIA.


Ending the reclaimer trilogy with a KIA and covering it as an MIA would be repetitive and boring.

~B2

  • 01.01.2012 4:13 PM PDT

this is a post copied exzactly from waypoint

  • 01.01.2012 4:27 PM PDT

The Forerunner, the Great Journey, and Heaven Theory

[Announcement Trailer] Halo: Forerunner

Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

If anything, I'm convinced this series is going to end with humanity discovering (or perhaps rediscovering) the means to end death. It's been a fairly glaring characteristic since Reach (and an aspect I tried to address through my own theory).

Halo Reach - The datapads (which introduced the Committee) and Halsey's journal both pointing to the eventual unification of the mind of man with the processing power, speed, and memory of an A.I.

Halo Cryptum - The introduction of geas and how the dead could be brought back to life through the transfer of memories (suggesting that you are the sum of your thoughts; not soul or body, and that you can be saved and transfered just as easily as any other piece of information).

Halo Primordium - The preface seems to suggest that Chakas became a monitor. A fusion of the software that is man's capacity for reason and thought with the hardware of an A.I. designed to maximize those aspects. Proof that the concept can work.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 10:49 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 5:20 PM PDT

Keep on fraggin'

I wouldn't mind if John died. Although, knowing the video game industry, they probably wouldn't kill John, for the sake of making more Halo games. Then again, I'm sure that they can make more sequels, and prequels, without him.

  • 01.01.2012 6:18 PM PDT

If it's going to end in any fashion, i would hope to see an ending similar to Marathon Infinity's ending. Even though the only correlation between the two are through symbols and other aesthetics, the two heros are too similar in their roles to have and ending anything but close.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 8:11 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 8:11 PM PDT

I've got to say I think we should finally put him to rest. The Master Chief is probably my favorite hero from any franchise. He embodies the best qualities of humanity. Honor, duty, devotion, friendship, brotherhood, loyalty, everything that we find good in ourselves. He risks himself for us because he believes that it is his duty to save us, not for glory or money or anything else so base.

He has lived a life that has been surrounded by wars and battles. His life has been full of chaos, of pain, and of watching his brothers in arms die at the hands of enemies thought to be unstoppable. Yet he has maintained his vigil and fought with courage regardless of how hopeless the fight seems. And so in saying this i do believe he should be put to rest at the end of this next trilogy.

Unfortunately as is often the case with him, he must go out with a bang. It just fits his style, personality, and he deserves to go out in a way that will be remembered by those he left behind. Though i do not think we should know how he actually ends. Only that he is gone, after all Spartans never die. They only go MIA. So his final condition remains unknown. We shouldn't know whether he is alive somewhere out there, or dead. Only that he is gone.

  • 01.02.2012 7:15 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

If John is to die by the end of Halo 6 it would have to be meaningful. Something not done before in the series. He doesn't need to day per say, but to never found again, not like halo 3, but literally never found again. Or if he dies at the hands of his "match", he would be avenged by his UNSC Soldiers. Like the Marines or the ODSTs. Give his death meaning, to make him look not like a war machine or walking tank but as a man. Who isn't invincible, who is as mortal as any other. To literally make him a Legend, a Hero, and a Martyr.

  • 01.03.2012 9:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Keeping the hero alive is a ridiculously cliche and lazy way to conclude a charcater's arc.

What? Then what should the hero do? Become a zombie? That would be a twist ending for sure, unless zombies=flood. Maybe a vampire :)

  • 01.03.2012 9:51 PM PDT

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Chief can die, but Cortana has to survive, she's as much a main character as he is in my opinion.

  • 01.03.2012 11:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: hotshot revan II
I want him too be MIA but not in the way of Halo 3 where it was confirmed that he is alive.



I do not want this series to have any possible chance of revival past H6. Any. Period.

Sometimes, if something is not broken it is best not to attempt to fix it, and if something is well loved, do not try and replace that love with an "upgrade" because it just isn't the same.

That being said, I have a nagging voice in the back of my head (oddly enough, in the voice of FO'Connor) telling me "we will do a third trilogy and you will like it!" repeatedly...quite odd really.

  • 01.07.2012 12:19 AM PDT
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Except Holmes was owned by one person. John is owned by a corporation whose focus is making money. MS won't be killing off their cash cow.

[Edited on 01.07.2012 9:48 AM PST]

  • 01.07.2012 9:47 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: nightspark
Except Holems was owned by one person. John is owned by a corporation whose focus is making money. MS won't be killing off their cash cow.


Halo is the "cash cow", not John.

  • 01.07.2012 9:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: nightspark
Except Holems was owned by one person. John is owned by a corporation whose focus is making money. MS won't be killing off their cash cow.


Halo is the "cash cow", not John.

John is Halo for the majority who don't visit these forums.

  • 01.07.2012 9:50 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: nightspark

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: nightspark
Except Holems was owned by one person. John is owned by a corporation whose focus is making money. MS won't be killing off their cash cow.


Halo is the "cash cow", not John.

John is Halo for the majority who don't visit these forums.


Doesn't matter, if it has Halo on the box it will sell. Wars, ODST and Reach were still very successful, we can't go on with John forever. Halo has to evolve, the changes of perspective in the story are what galvanises the series to keep it fresh, the same way Doctor Who is galvanised by the change in actor, writer and theme.

  • 01.07.2012 10:05 AM PDT

If for some reason you have not seen Children of Men. Do not read the rest of my post. Go watch the movie, fall in love with it, and THEN read my post.

I agree that John needs to die. Let the man rest. While I may be the only one. I'm kind of hoping for a bittersweet death. He appears to escape almost certain death (Riding a space ship away from an exploding artificial planet in traditional style) while saving the galaxy, but dies of his wounds on the ship. Children of Men style.

  • 01.07.2012 10:26 AM PDT