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Deva Path
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
We are all going to get banned aren't we?
Posted by: qirahs
I understand why many people don't want the TO to be the gravemind, as that would be a very lame transformation for someone as bad@$$ as the TO. The gravemind, no matter what 343 does about it, was always lack luster. Bungie could have made it into a much cooler enemy, but they missed the mark, and he was always underwhelming for some reason. And the fact that players already know what it feels like to defeat him (halo 3 ending).
The mouthpiece theory is a much better alternative, it makes sense that the gravemind is just the voice of the TO, rather than the TO itself. People argue that the ability to command the flood is a good enough reason for the TO to be the gravemind. But no matter which way you look at them, the flood are just not THAT great. . .
Greg Bear and 343i are probably banging their heads right now trying to come up with a valid, non BS explanation as to how the forerunner could have possibly been beaten by the flood. Even with mendicant Bias on their side, and that BS excuse that the forerunner "waited too long to treat the flood as an enemy". . . its still a stretch. We all have fought the flood for 3 games, we all have defeated them (although it may have been temporary). The TO becoming one of the flood is very underwhelming.
In my humble opinion, The TO is much more frightening as TO, not the gravemind. The way the didact and the confirmer pissed their pants talking about him escaping, puts his power level well over 1 billion, let alone 9000. The gravemind in this scenario, is about as strong as yamcha.
So much misinformation in this i don't even know what to tackle first.
Remember in cryptum when bornstellar's mom "just" said "the flood is a stellar illness that appeared in the outer colonies"? The forerunners Arrogantly ignored the flood because they thought "Well, those Dirt-Beasts beat this thing so we should have no issue" thus, they didn't pay attention to it. Not to mention they were fighting the war in secret because they didn't want to admit they were weaker than something.
They also didn't just "fix" humanity and make amends after they found out the reason humanity attacked them; had they done that and asked for the cure they would have been fine.
There is so much subtext and significance with that, which is why i love this "Ancient Era". I feel like you would have to break things down at a subatomic level to truly appreciate it.
The only reason we "beat" the flood is because they were contained and we acted right away. If the flood weren't contained on the rings we wouldn't have "won". Don't even get me started on how stupid the Gravemind is.
Again, There is an Element with the TO being the mind that you will understand soon enough.