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Subject: Destruction of Earth?
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How did earth fall so quickly? It had over 300 Orbital MAC guns, compared to Reach's 20. When Reach was attacked it was attacked with over 100 Covenant ships, but when the Covenant attacked earth their attack was weak and ineffective. Also even if there is a time gap between Halo 2 and 3, the fleet that could take over Earth would have to be 500+ ships atleast. But the Covenant were in civil war basically at the end of Halo 2, how could they manage that much resources so quickly? any ideas?

  • 05.10.2006 3:58 PM PDT
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i just think its odd.

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Yes but most of Earth's forces were concetrating on Delta Halo and other things. (I think)

  • 05.10.2006 4:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: mr poopoo232
its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

End of Halo 2: before Earth Cutscene....

Cortana: You must stop them, if Truth leads the covanant fleet to Earth, they don't stand a chance.

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Posted by: mr poopoo232
its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

Posted by: B0SSWIDAH0TSAUS
Yes but most of Earth's forces were concetrating on Delta Halo and other things. (I think)


No, one ship was at Delta Halo, the In Amber Clad.

  • 05.10.2006 4:01 PM PDT

I thought it was pretty strange, too.

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^ that was before the Covenant broke into Civil War, before the elites and brutes where fighting. Turth basically went by himself back to Earth as the last cut sence of the chief shows "new identified ship" as in single not plural.

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Mabye this is at the end and in Halo3 we will get to see what leads up to the scene

  • 05.10.2006 4:03 PM PDT
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The covenant fleet that the prophets had was "the largest fleet I've ever seen. The largest anyone's ever seen", in the words of Cortana.

  • 05.10.2006 4:04 PM PDT
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You will just have to play the game.

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Well I think that the trailer doesn't matter because Bungie did say that... right?

  • 05.10.2006 4:05 PM PDT
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At the end of Halo 2, there seems to be a pretty big battle going on. When it cuts to Lord Hood is on the Cairo, it looks even more beaten up. It must have been a huge fleet, or they slipped past and took the generators offline.

  • 05.10.2006 4:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rex89
^ that was before the Covenant broke into Civil War, before the elites and brutes where fighting. Turth basically went by himself back to Earth as the last cut sence of the chief shows "new identified ship" as in single not plural.


Actually Cortana said that after the civil war was already under way, if my memory serves correct she says that at the beginning of High Charity (2nd to last level).

But ultimately we'll just have to wait for Halo3 to find out.

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  • 05.10.2006 4:09 PM PDT
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i think that all of you guys are forgetting that on the end of the earth levels, truths fleat starts up a slip space portal in the middle of new mombosa and the inamberclad followed. meanwhile, it caused a massive explosion and made it pretty clear that that area of land was obliterated. think you guys, why did the covenant come to new mombosa? the ark, and the ark only. what was that thing in the trailer? well if i didnt know any better i would say that that is the ark itself and the trailer takes place in new mombosa (you can see ruins of the bridge off in the distance). so the whole world isnt neccisarily destroyed, but new mombosa sure did take a heavy load of damage.

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If you remember, in the fall of reach the covenant landed ground troops to take out the generators, the drop ships are too small for the mac guns to effectively target (plus there are too many) and once they get on the ground, the humans can't even use any kind of nuclear device to kill them because the EMP would fry all of the generators... In other words, we can have all those fancy guns, but without enough troops it means squat.

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Im guessing the trailer takes place further in the game and also we have no idea how many brutes are with the prophets, they could have the same amount of brutes as they did elites, not losing any numbers at all.

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I'm pretty sure the covenant brought *EVERYONE* with them. Humans are just one species.. the covenant is made up of... well... quite a few species. So pretty much anyone who joined up (most of those who did'nt are likely heretics and now are dead) is at earth. I'd say the human to covie ratio's are going to be at least 2/1 for them :( <--- This all of course is random (logical) assumptions.

  • 05.10.2006 4:28 PM PDT
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But when Truth fled Highcharity *spelling* he left with just the one ship, maybe more ships were came to Earth as the Chief was on Delta Halo.. *sigh* i still don't think Earth could have been conquered that fast, even with the tactics they used against the humans on Reach.

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Posted by: Rex89
How did earth fall so quickly? It had over 300 Orbital MAC guns, compared to Reach's 20. When Reach was attacked it was attacked with over 100 Covenant ships, but when the Covenant attacked earth their attack was weak and ineffective. Also even if there is a time gap between Halo 2 and 3, the fleet that could take over Earth would have to be 500+ ships atleast. But the Covenant were in civil war basically at the end of Halo 2, how could they manage that much resources so quickly? any ideas?

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  • 05.10.2006 5:47 PM PDT
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Okay. The trailer takes place a bit into the game, around one third of the way through as ive read at Gamespot. It is highly likely that the Forerunner ship that the Chief boarded was being escorted to Earth by the remainder of the Covenant ships. It makes perfect sense that the MAC guns wouldnt defend Earth as the ship that the Admiral was one was on fire and about to be destroyed when the Chief entered into the system.

And that quote from Cortana makes sense that they couldnt survive if Truth got to Earth, which he did....with a few hundred Covenant cruisers.

Also, the Chief may have just waited on the ship while the main Cruisers in the Covenant fleet destroyed the Earth's defences, and then moved in.

  • 05.10.2006 5:59 PM PDT
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we dont know if earht really does fall they might kick the covies ass

  • 05.10.2006 6:03 PM PDT