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Subject: What was the goal of the ODSTs?
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Andy

At the beginning of H3:ODST before Dare changed coordinates. By the looks of it, the ODSTs were going to try to land on the Covenant ship, but wouldn't drop pods going at that speed shoot straight through the ship, if not killing the ODSTs on impact?

  • 12.28.2011 10:22 PM PDT

Covenant ships are made of pretty strong stuff. If they can survive ARCHER missles they can survive drop pods. Also you're asking if landing on a ship that is in the air would kill the troops that routinely drop FROM -blam!- ORBIT straight to the -blam!- GROUND.

[Edited on 12.28.2011 10:36 PM PST]

  • 12.28.2011 10:35 PM PDT
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The drop pods hit the ground at the same speed...?

  • 12.28.2011 10:35 PM PDT
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Andy

In Halo 2, the chute deployed high in the atmosphere. At the distance the ODSTs were from the impact, I doubt the chute would slow them down enough for them to walk away unharmed. I might just be overlooking that, though.

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  • 12.28.2011 10:48 PM PDT

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I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.

  • 12.28.2011 11:02 PM PDT
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Andy


Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?

  • 12.28.2011 11:06 PM PDT


Posted by: DynamicVamp

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?


For ONI, Im sure they wouldn't even bat an eyelid to sacrifice an entire regiment of ODST's, if it meant one team had the opportunity to secure their prize.

  • 12.28.2011 11:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

The HEV's would have torn through a couple of decks at most, but NEVER through the whole ship. It's possible some of them would have died on impact, but many, many more would have survived and would be all over the ship and would seriously cause havoc inside the Carrier.

They could control key areas in the ship and allow for reinforcements to arrive by storm and finish taking the cut off ship.

God, I would love a level like that. Not just a run and gun that was Truth and Reconciliation.

  • 12.29.2011 9:11 AM PDT

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They could control key areas in the ship and allow for reinforcements to arrive by storm and finish taking the cut off ship.

God, I would love a level like that. Not just a run and gun that was Truth and Reconciliation.



My imagination went wild at the thought of a level like this, i was truly disappointed we didn't get to go inside a ship in ODST.

And don't even mention LNoS.

  • 12.29.2011 9:24 AM PDT


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Posted by: DynamicVamp

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?


For ONI, Im sure they wouldn't even bat an eyelid to sacrifice an entire regiment of ODST's, if it meant one team had the opportunity to secure their prize.


ONI isn't omniscient. They had no idea the Covenant knew how to slipspace-jump within the atmosphere, so when Regret was effectively grounded on Earth the UNSC believed they had a real chance of capturing the Prophet of Regret and brokering a cease-fire with the Covenant.

The ODST team sent to retrieve Vergil was just an off-shoot of that greater mission.

  • 12.29.2011 9:24 AM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

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Posted by: HipiO7


They could control key areas in the ship and allow for reinforcements to arrive by storm and finish taking the cut off ship.

God, I would love a level like that. Not just a run and gun that was Truth and Reconciliation.



My imagination went wild at the thought of a level like this, i was truly disappointed we didn't get to go inside a ship in ODST.

And don't even mention LNoS.


Oh God.

I had this huge argument in another thread over if all the Spartan II's and Noble Team, along with ODST's could take the LNoS. I said they could, after all, the Covenants numbers dont work for anything in such extreme combat, since they can only fit a certain number of troops in the hallways, and they would become killzones.

I'd wish for a level (or two) like this, but I highly doubt it will ever happen in the Haloverse. :(

  • 12.29.2011 3:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Junknot

Posted by: DynamicVamp

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?


For ONI, Im sure they wouldn't even bat an eyelid to sacrifice an entire regiment of ODST's, if it meant one team had the opportunity to secure their prize.


ONI isn't omniscient. They had no idea the Covenant knew how to slipspace-jump within the atmosphere, so when Regret was effectively grounded on Earth the UNSC believed they had a real chance of capturing the Prophet of Regret and brokering a cease-fire with the Covenant.

The ODST team sent to retrieve Vergil was just an off-shoot of that greater mission.


I don't know how they couldn't when Cortana's calculations were leaked to the Covenant in First Strike, ie the jumping in atmosphere.

  • 12.29.2011 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: DynamicVamp

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?


Um, no. Dare redirected the squad she was linked to. All the others had the same mission of going after the carrier.

  • 12.29.2011 4:07 PM PDT

To keep us busy until Halo Reach was released.

  • 12.29.2011 4:16 PM PDT


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Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Junknot

Posted by: DynamicVamp

Posted by: Im SteelAssassn
I saw an in-depth conversation about this not too long after ODST's release. If I remember correctly, Dare only wanted to make it appear that they were planning on intercepting the Covenant ship.

Hence the reason Romeo was asking what use was him bringing a sniper for supposed close-combat.
This seems like the most reasonable answer, but was Dare going to redirect all of the ODSTs (if I recall, there were more than just the team we saw)?


For ONI, Im sure they wouldn't even bat an eyelid to sacrifice an entire regiment of ODST's, if it meant one team had the opportunity to secure their prize.


ONI isn't omniscient. They had no idea the Covenant knew how to slipspace-jump within the atmosphere, so when Regret was effectively grounded on Earth the UNSC believed they had a real chance of capturing the Prophet of Regret and brokering a cease-fire with the Covenant.

The ODST team sent to retrieve Vergil was just an off-shoot of that greater mission.


I don't know how they couldn't when Cortana's calculations were leaked to the Covenant in First Strike, ie the jumping in atmosphere.


Did ONI know the Covenant found that out? If so, fair enough; it's been a long time since I read First Strike; I'm planning to go through them all the Halo media again at some point when I'm not busy.

I suppose the ODSTs were simply deemed expendable, then; if the flagship jumped then they'd die, if not then they'd have a shot at capturing a High Prophet.

That's a risk I'd be willing to take if I were in command.

  • 12.29.2011 4:25 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Wolverfrog

Did ONI know the Covenant found that out? If so, fair enough; it's been a long time since I read First Strike; I'm planning to go through them all the Halo media again at some point when I'm not busy.

I suppose the ODSTs were simply deemed expendable, then; if the flagship jumped then they'd die, if not then they'd have a shot at capturing a High Prophet.

That's a risk I'd be willing to take if I were in command.


Cortana knew and I see no reason why she would not say that in the after-action report.

  • 12.29.2011 4:27 PM PDT

Okay.

  • 12.29.2011 4:28 PM PDT

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Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

"We're way off course, we're going to miss the carrier!"

So ONI and Dare didn't know the Carrier was going to jump, but they had already planned on altering the ODST squad's vectors; either way, Dare Squad wasn't going to hit the carrier.

As for the other ODSTs, ONI probably thought that letting a few of them get inside a Covie carrier can only mean an annoyance for the Covies, which would just be useful.

  • 12.30.2011 2:13 AM PDT