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Posted by: Grey Fox
It does not instill hate and the only publicity it gains from its name is from certain people in this thread who cant look past the web address to see the Halo fans within.

And thank you Recon your wise words were heard by some of us.


Unfortunately some of the kids don't have the patience or ability to read Recon's post, and will keep flaming you guys based on a site name.

  • 05.11.2006 1:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
I am a member of h2sucks.com. I have noticed that the assault rifle is making a possible comeback in Halo 3.

I think I speak for h2sucks.com when I say, "Thank you very much." It has been a great relief over at h2sucks.com to see that you, Bungie, have restored a part of Halo 1's traditional classic feeling to Halo 3. The absence of the AR from Halo 2 has been the cause of long and tormenting debates on the h2sucks.com forum, and that argument has even plagued b.net several times. Now that argument shall starve and die. And so shall h2sucks.com's Bungie-bashing.

They may not want to apologize for bashing in the past...but I will represent them and say "We apologize for the crap we have tossed at you." It was our fault that we judged you too quickly and assumed that Halo 3 would not seem good at first. It seems we were wrong after all. IT has brought great appreciation to the many members of h2sucks.com to see that Bungie has brought back a souvenir from halo 1 to place in the third game. They may not individually thank Achronos or the rest of Bungie for revealing this feature to us...but like I said, in this thread I am representing h2sucks.com. Pretend that my apology and "thank yous" are those of h2sucks.com and not just myself. They may not want to show their thanks...but believe me, they are happy campers over there. :)

So, everyone, all together...THANKS FOR T3H RETURN OF THE ASSAULT RIFLE, BUNGIE!

Sorry that I didn't put this in the original "thank you" thread. I felt the need to make a separate thread because, well...this thread shows that another site is grateful that a piece of their favorite game is reappearing. They have all been reassured that Bungie cares not only about fans, but about those who criticize, and that is a big commitment on Bungie's part; very rarely will someone listen to another that bashes him/her. You have also shown us, Bungie, that you still do care about your older games, Halo in particular. :) That is good to know. Can't wait for the next update.


Goodnight, and h2sucks.com gives their thanks!

If this is the only reason you are changing your opinion of Halo 3 then you and all of the idiots on h2sucks are not gamers in the least. One weapon does not make a game good, while I believe Halo 3 will be good, I do not say it because the autorifle is back. That is a pathetic reason to like the game and I am sure Bungie has not stopped to look at your crap site that is h2sucks.com

  • 05.11.2006 1:10 PM PDT
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h2sucks.com website = First into the slingshot.

That is all...

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Posted by: The Gunshark 360
h2sucks.com website = First into the slingshot.

That is all...


Ignorant fanboys who jump to conclusions about others, and hate people based on what website they visit= First into slingshot

I'm not even a member of that site, but I'm defending them, because so far the Halo2sucks.com guys are acting a lot more mature than some of the Bungie.net members.

  • 05.11.2006 1:18 PM PDT

Ok, here's something for all...

H2Sucks.com has a community that is about 500% more intelligent and contributive than most of Bungie. The only problem is the url, which sort of destroys any hope for legitamacy about the website. But they do make some good points and suggestions, and in no way flame those who support Halo 2 or Bungie.

  • 05.11.2006 1:24 PM PDT
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Not really, I just happened to cross their website and a lot of their points are moot, out of place, or just plain stupid. So the theory stands...

As for the M6C debate, why would you think that a pistol would be more advanced than a rifle at ANY point in the history of mankind? It makes no sense. The main weapon should not be a sidearm, because once again, sidearms are used as a last resort when a rifle is jammed or runs out of ammo.

A large majority, if not all of your points, make no sense.

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Posted by: Grey Fox
It does not instill hate and the only publicity it gains from its name is from certain people in this thread who cant look past the web address to see the Halo fans within.

And thank you Recon your wise words were heard by some of us.


Improve Halo 2 does not instill hate, Halo 2 sucks does, what is so hard to understand?

And you do not know what publicity is.

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Also, the Zanzibar forum (RIP) had better points than the halo2sucks forum ever had.

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smh recon was not backing anyone, and I was pointing out solid facts, not flaming.

  • 05.11.2006 1:30 PM PDT
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The truth is that Halo 2 does suck. My play group and I were just as crazy about halo as the next group but after about 8 months of playing a bad game we decided to play halo CE as part of a throw back video game night. Through this event we (our gaming group) found out a few things.
*13 year old brats are to be shot and not heard (xbox live pre-puberty language)
*The sniper rifle is soooo much more fun to play with when you have to lead your target (true skill)
*Health and fall damage are very necessary to add the increased element of realness
*Your physically move faster in HALO CE
*You die faster making more dynamic and interactive battles
* Less CRAP though out the Multiplayer levels are a warm welcome
*Homing rockets should have only been development if the vehicles had remained indestructible
*The pistol is not too powerful if you stick together
*3 words HANG 'EM HIGH
*The Shotgun on HALO CE has a much tighter shoot spread. (More n00b fun)
*Kills matter too muck in Halo 2. HALO CE is much more objective.

The teaser for Halo 3 is making me start to like halo again lets hope the plot isn't as bad as it was in Halo 2 (no sense of mystery, too straight forward)

-blam!- site or not HALO 2 SUCKS

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Posted by: Anonymous Dark
Ok, here's something for all...

H2Sucks.com has a community that is about 500% more intelligent and contributive than most of Bungie. The only problem is the url, which sort of destroys any hope for legitamacy about the website. But they do make some good points and suggestions, and in no way flame those who support Halo 2 or Bungie.



Thank you, that's what I tried to say earlier and failed. They didn't come here to say anything insulting or out of order, but most people responded with an insult anyways. It's a shame really, getting so worked up over NOTHING AT ALL.

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Uh, stay on topic please...

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All I have to say is OMFG! You people argue over the dumbest things. I would personally give the guy a pat on the back for standing up to the Bungie community. Yet at the same time I would also stab it for him not liking Halo 2. My point is that no matter what people will always get flamed for saying the either liked a game or not! For instance, if I say I liked Halo1 but hated Halo2, all the people that like both or Halo2 would flame me! And if I said i liked Halo2 better than Halo1 then all the oldschool Halo fans would flame me. And if I said I liked neither and that they both suck then people would flame me. And if i said that Halo3 will kick Halo1 and Halo2's ass then people will flame me. My point is that NO MATTER WHAT its an OPINION and you shouldn't insult someone for it!! LAY OFF PEOPLE!! Just because his opinion is different doesn't mean that hes an idiot ans that he doesn't know what hes talking about. PLEASE do a little research and maybe go LOOK at h2sucks.com! see what its about and remember that no matter what they think, it will be different from your beliefs. Now I liked Halo1 and I equally liked Halo2, but no matter what I say I will probably just get flammed anyway.

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h2sucks.com website = First into the slingshot.

solely off the filthy, publicity-grabbing name.

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halo3sucks.com is already registered by the same guy that has halo2sucks.com


Nice lying you doing there since I just checked the url and it is still for sale, please leave the discussion to people with some courtesy and intelligence.

http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?domain=HALO3SUCKS.COM

http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?domain=HALO2SUCKS.COM

He has both of them registered, I wasn't lying. Also I didn't flame anyone or anything all I did was say the same guy had it registered, it's the truth. Don't imply I am not intelligent, you simply went to halo3sucks.com and didn't even bother to check the registrant info....

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Posted by: Sketto
h2sucks.com website = First into the slingshot.

solely off the filthy, publicity-grabbing name.


I think recon was directing his statement to people like you. Look past the name and actually read some of our points.

Ok, i am an avid Halo CE fan and i like the pistol for its flexibilty.

But the fact is is that it is too usfull and overpowered to be a side arm. It has too long of a range for a pistol, to good of accuracy for that range, and too much damage for that range. I think that we put too much emphasis on it because it is the most unbalanced weapon in Halo CE and all the weapons in halo 2 outdo it un unbalanced gameplay.

I just think that we should give more credit to guns that take more skill to kill with in halo CE.


For example, the rocket. it is only good at close range, but if you can effectively kill at medium to long ranges with it, it is a really skillful weapon. Then there is the shotgun, almost impossible to kill unless in close quarters. And the AR, really hard to kill unless bursted. The pistol take sfar less skill than any of those weapons. So why do we put so much emphasis on the damned skill needed to use a pistol?

I myself love Halo 2... but if there is one thing that frusterates me beyond belief, and where I have to hold back from tossing my Xbox onto the street, it's the Battle Rife/Plasma Pistol combo.

In Halo CE, i've noticed that the PP barely tracks the opponant of at all, there is virtually NO auto-aim. But in Halo 2, as seen clearly in "Halo 2 is Noobifed" the auto aim is outrageous.

I have several times tried to dodge an impeding PP charge but trying to take cover behind a wall, but the charge seem's to, at lest part of it, passes through the wall and takes out my sheilds. A few seconds later, Battle Rifle shows up at it's lights out.


Many people have suggested that the PP not be changeable until it cooles down and I think that is a great idea. I don't know if Bungie knew about the strength of this combo, but if they did, they are complete idiots. It tears the fun out of every game because there is no defense against it.

Since it seems that some people like to say that Halo 2 takes more strategy than Halo 1, I would like to know what some of these strategies are? If you could, please offer offensive and defensive points of view for each strategy.

I am looking for all the legitimate strategies. Also, please offer legitimate halo 1 strategies as well.

I don't care which game wins the more strategy challenge, I am just curious.


Auto update disscussion:

My impressions:

Grenades detonate a lot quicker maybe a little too quick but maybe i have to get use to them.

~frags have same damge affect
~plasma grenades can kill you with full shields if its on the gound 2 feet away (dont like that personally) which means its damage effect is increased.

The weapons changes are not that noticable and my fears of dual magnums sucking was wrong you just have a little less auto aim on them. As for auto aim on everything else its still the same and and the plasma rifle/smg still has the same effect maybe a Unoticable less effect.

As for melees they are great 2 hits to the front with any weapon and theyre dead. Falling melees are 1 hit kills.

As for the brute shot its grenade power is stonger and there is a minor lunge when melees are attempted to the front of a player, you lunge about 2 feet if that.

EDIT: From what i hear is that someone had been standbyed and what happens now is that it automatically brings you back and lags the button pusher out of the game.

Also Flag pulls through walls and super bounces are gone.


Now, I don't see any, "ZomG Hlo2 Is the suck!1" I see calm mature disscussion. This is basically what we do overthere and everyone says all we do is bash and flame bungie and Halo2. These are actual posts from Halo2sucks.com forums.



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I'll laugh when Halo 3 is released and they go back to "OMFG BUNGIE SUX TEH BALLZ".

Ya and than they make a halo3sucks.com website.

halo3sucks.com is already registered by the same guy that has halo2sucks.com



No it isn't. Please don't spread rumors.

yes it is, it's not that hard to do a WHOIS registrant check

quit flaming me for your lack of resourcefulness

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Posted by: l Spark l
Posted by: fernand0
Posted by: Craigboy
Posted by: Johnny Orcface
I'll laugh when Halo 3 is released and they go back to "OMFG BUNGIE SUX TEH BALLZ".

Ya and than they make a halo3sucks.com website.

halo3sucks.com is already registered by the same guy that has halo2sucks.com



No it isn't. Please don't spread rumors.

yes it is, it's not that hard to do a WHOIS registrant check

quit flaming me for your lack of resourcefulness


I wouldn't exactly yell at that guy for flaming, he's acting more mature than most of the people in this thread.

It looks like the owner of the site put a lot of work into the Halo2sucks site, and wrote a lot of articles for it. A reason why he might have bought that name is to prevent people from cashing in on the success of Halo2sucks.com. And if Halo 3 does suck, he can just go and put up another site, and not worry about fighting over that name, he probably acquired that name long before Halo 3 was announced.

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  • 05.11.2006 2:43 PM PDT
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Anyone can pick and choose posts; your example means nothing, sorry.

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