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Subject: The definitive list of problems with Reach

"For us, the storm has passed. The war is over. And let us never forget those who journeyed into the howling dark, and did not return. For their decision required courage beyond measure. Sacrifice, an unshakable conviction that their fight... our fight... was elsewhere. As we start to rebuild, this hillside will remain barren, a memorial to heroes fallen. They ennobled all of us, and they shall not be forgotten."

<3Reach.

  • 12.30.2011 10:30 AM PDT

"To me, a nice triple kill with the sniper is infinitely more impressive than any Living Dead Killionaire"

Does flaming people on forums count as an esport?

I'm a commendation/achievement/statistics freak.

-David (Drake)

For the OP, I see your long list of problems but I found you have repeated a lot. Since I looked at your stats and find you play mostly Squad Slayer, Team Objective, and Arena. This means you are very competetive at this game. Now look at my stats. I play mostly BTB and Multi-Team. If you and I had a 1v1, you would undoubtedly win. HOWEVER, I am able to have a good time in my more casual playlists, as you do in your very competetive playlists.

Because Reach is more than a year old and is starting to be forgotten and pushed to the back of the priority list for 343, I doubt that most of your problems will ever be fixed. So my suggestion to you is this. If you are sick of being killed by the sprinter with the sword in Arena, or out-DMRing someone only to be killed by his grenuke, or being spawn trapped because a map has unfair spawns, I suggest that you change your approcach. These things will never be fixed, so you will just have to use them to your advantage. Use the grenukes to get insane multi-kills in Multi-Team KOTH. Use your DMR skills which you have honed in Arena and SS to easily out DMR any noob guest you will find in the playlist. Abuse the sprint-sword combo yourself, or maybe even evade-sword that you can have in Multi-team. Stop complaining. If you're sick of the BS (I admit some of it is BS), try the BS yourself, and you will get results.

  • 12.30.2011 10:43 AM PDT

You're only alive because it's illegal to kill.


Posted by: X El BaZzA X
-Grenade damage
-Grenade radius
-Frag grenades sticking
-Maps with too many CQC power weapons (Sword Base, Crouchdown)
-Poorly implemented DMR bloom
-Bloom in general
-Movement speed
-Jump height
-Armor Lock in general
-Camo in general
-Camo sniping
-Ease of use of sniper
-Sprint
-Sprint double melee
-Sprint sword
-Jetpack
-Maps designed around jetpack
-Maps that don't take jetpack into account
-Sword blocking
-The DMR (utility weapon is mini sniper)
-Useless weapon sandbox
-Copy paste weapon sandbox (20 re-skinned ARs)
-Terrible maps
-Unbalanced maps
-Easy to use radar
-Redundant playlists
-Poorly implemented Arena
-FFA ating system in Arena
-Poorly advertised Arena (lots of people don't know it's now w/l)
-No incentive to play Arena
-Non competitive settings in Arena
-Unbalanced maps in Arena
-2s tricking in Arena
-Iron boosting in Arena
-Challenges
-Challenges that encourage people to vote for terrible gametypes
-Lack of trueskill in social playlists
-Lack of skill based ranking system
-Spawn system
-Vehicles made of paper maché
-Vehicle combat
-The sniper's effectiveness against vehicles
-The Banshee in general
-AR starts
-DMR starts
-Weapon variety (or lack of)
-6 shot AR melee with bleedthrough
-Invasion Slayer unbalanced
-Invasion unbalanced in general (easy to spawn kill)
-Theater downgraded since Halo 3
-Forge imprecise
-Forge tags incomplete
-Difficult to forge certain gametypes (Invasion)
-Poor forged maps in Matchmaking
-Forged maps framerate drop
-Forged maps lack of detail on splitscreen
-Poor host selection
-Host switching when not needed
-Not host switching when needed
-ARs on Countdown (it deserves its own segment)
-Sword Base in general
-Reflection in general
-Uncaged in general
-Zealot space area
-Poor forging on Asylum
-Lack of MLG party restrictions
-Lack of MLG ranking system
-Party restrictions in general
-Too few armory pieces
-Game mentality (everyone's a winner)
-Betrayal system
-Campaign has no character development
-Campaign has no excitement or good plot
-Campaign is about pushing buttons
-Campaign in general
-End of game blackscreens
-cR in playlists with already high population
-Not using jackpots or challenges to encourage people to play the playlists which need a high population to be accurate (Arena)
-No warning when rocket launcher/rocket hog/plasma launcher has locked on and you're in an air vehicle


-The fact that all of these problems still exist after a year and a bit and haven't yet been fixed.

I'll add to this list as I think of more that I've probably forgotten.


Thats a pretty big list, though a lot of these aren't really a big deal.

  • 12.30.2011 3:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: AllBurnTheSame
lets not forget the worst problem overall: Credit banning. I have heard that credit bans can last as long as two weeks, and then are permanent? Pure theft of services. It is made legal by one of the documents they make us sign im sure, but it is the reason I wont play what is a really amazing game all in all. I have a duaghter and she is more important than some game, so I guess im just another sucker getting robbed like the rest of the people who bought it for multiplayer then got disconnected and banned for quitting, or had to answer the door and got banned, it is really something new for me to see in a game. but I guess they really don't care once it is purchased and then to get the rest of the game you have to pay more money for the maps that should have of course been included. Gotta love watchign microsofts greed and stupidity combine to make one of the best games around unplayable unless you can literally sit in front of your game for hours lon end without moving or taking a break.

It is hilarious that I have had the game for 10 days and only been able to earn credits the first day, and for a few hours inbetween them lifting and then are applying the ban because my power went out...simply amazing that they post challenges that are suppsed to keep people play8ng yet they credit ban so severly most people have to have just given up on earning credits.

As I understand it I was banned for 24 hours and now I am on a two week ban and the next time it will be permanent (Can anyone confirm this? both for my own knowledge, and to let other people know why not to get fooled into buying this game)
. And since downloaded games are non refudable and xbox live isn't a part of bungie or 343 434 443 whichever terrible name the people running halo picked for a software company,

Once you buy this game, you will be exposed to the problems listed here, but luckily it is very hard to keep from getting banned, so you will be frustrated and feeling robbed from the credit bans long before the other things begin to bother you.

really? cuz i've had the game since it came out and haven't been banned once. If you have a daughter that means alot to you obviously i commend you, but then you shouldn't play the game if you don't have the free time. I personally love that people can get banned for quitting more then just a few games. I get sick of getting stuck in BTB because people constantly quit when on the losing end, man up and finish the game no matter how much you get beat by. (that last part is not directed at you but quitters in general).

I don't think the maps should be free either. They were not shipped with the game, nor were most of them even thought of being made/brought back when the game shipped. Bungie and 343 put extra time into those maps after the game was already out and they should be paid for their efforts. That being said I don't think they should be as expensive as they are either.

  • 12.31.2011 2:11 AM PDT
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I'm listeni- Oh wait I don't give a -blam!- what you have to say.

1. Game is tailored to Halo 3 staff captains

I agree with every point in that list though.

  • 12.31.2011 2:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: TheTacoDefender
[b]ADAPT[b]
My k/d in Competitive is 2.16 and I'm better at Reach than I am at Halo 3. I have adapted, it doesn't mean any of the features aren't bat-blam!- retarded.


K/D, pffft, you can easily boost it.

  • 12.31.2011 4:05 AM PDT

Leon > HUNK > Wesker > Ada > Jill > Claire > Chris

The lack of cows was dissapointing.

  • 12.31.2011 4:07 AM PDT
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Tombo iS Kicking Increadibly Dope -blam!-

Lol'd.

Ontopic,

Grenades are too fkn powerful. Im getting killed by frags all the time. No, im not a noob complaining, they are just too powerful and the damage radius is way too large.
Haters gonna hate.

Also, the arena ranking system.. -sigh-
It's just stupid. Nobody is even playing arena. It's a total fail.
No, I dont have any better idea's but id rather have the halo3 "highest_skill" system than the existing arena.

I love halo but it's going worse and worse.


(Also, not the best english writer)

  • 12.31.2011 4:41 AM PDT


Posted by: BloodClaw95
<3Reach.


You have a negative KD. Of course you <3 it.

  • 12.31.2011 5:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: TheTacoDefender
[b]ADAPT[b]
My k/d in Competitive is 2.16 and I'm better at Reach than I am at Halo 3. I have adapted, it doesn't mean any of the features aren't bat-blam!- retarded.


K/D, pffft, you can easily boost it.


Excuses lol.

  • 12.31.2011 5:56 AM PDT


Posted by: tsujen
Almost all of those aren't "problems" more so personal opinions of problems, some of them are true but most are just something someone doesn't like.

  • 01.02.2012 9:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: WTF Shadow
This list is disturbing.
Maybe Reach just has too many flaws to be fixed?


I would agree to this. Reach has too many problems to be fixed because some of the basic game mechanics themselves are flawed.



  • 01.02.2012 9:31 AM PDT

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Enjoy!

From the looks of this list you don't like a single thing about Reach...

Maybe try playing a different game? :/

  • 01.02.2012 11:12 AM PDT

Wait 4 Halo 4.

Gears 3. nuf sed.

  • 01.02.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Let ME summarize that list for you OP!

The definitive list of problems with Reach:
-MATCHMAKING



That is all.

All that -blam!- you listed are just game settings.
Easily modified settings.

But unfortunately with the way Matchmaking was designed, you have to spend you time here -blam!-ing at the developer to get them to update the playlist to your liking.

If we had a server browser.
All that -blam!- you listed, wouldn't even be an issue for you.
Well, some of it still would, but I'd say it would be cut in half...at the very least.

[Edited on 01.03.2012 6:51 PM PST]

  • 01.03.2012 6:43 PM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
Let ME summarize that list for you OP!

The definitive list of problems with Reach:
-MATCHMAKING



That is all.

All that -blam!- you listed are just game settings.
Easily modified settings.

But unfortunately with the way Matchmaking was designed, you have to spend you time here -blam!-ing at the developer to get them to update the playlist to your liking.

If we had a server browser.
All that -blam!- you listed, wouldn't even be an issue for you.


Smartest post I have read in a while.

  • 01.03.2012 6:48 PM PDT

The fact that you need to come up with a list is rather sad. Just eloquently explain what you feel are major issues rather than nitpick.

  • 01.03.2012 6:48 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.

Is there anything you didn't leave out.

Some of things you have listed, I don't have a problem.

Hopefully Halo 4, will be closer to Halo 3 than REACH.

  • 01.03.2012 6:52 PM PDT


Posted by: THOMSY99
Is there anything you didn't leave out.

Some of things you have listed, I don't have a problem.

Hopefully Halo 4, will be closer to Halo 3 than REACH.


Ew. That opinion just made me a bit nauseated.

That concept honestly confuses me. Why would anyone want something to be like something else? If you get the same thing over and over again wouldn't that be shampoo drinkingly awful? Getting a nice cake is awesome, having to eat the same thing every day can leave you in a coma.

It is idiotic. When something amazing comes by the fact that its presence of scarce makes it more amazing, but if its in your face every minute of your life you get annoying by how smelly it is. Shouldn't people want better things?

And wanting something great from a sequel is naive to begin with. Why do you want the same installment of the beaten, battered ruined franchise from ten years ago reskinned and rehashed years later? Don't you want the next franchise that will revolutionize gaming as it is? You know, like the original Halo did?

  • 01.03.2012 7:01 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.


Posted by: Frasier Crane
1. Game is tailored to Halo 3 staff captains

I agree with every point in that list though.



Staff Captain was the best Rank in Halo 3.

  • 01.03.2012 7:02 PM PDT

I <3 Halo:Reach - amazingly fun and best campaign + amazing Soundtrack
I <3 Halo 3:ODST - best soundtrack + Firefight + Coastal Highway and Mombassa Streets, amazingly unique campaign.
I <3 Halo 3 - best multiplayer levels + Forge + best Custom Games + soundtrack
I <3 Halo 2 - amazing huge fun campaign + soundtrack + Fun multiplayer
I <3 Halo: CE - started it all

Are you -blam!- kidding me? Are you people seriously taking this list like its legit?

Wow. You guys are just...retarded.

  • 01.03.2012 7:03 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.


Posted by: Tombo iS KIDS
Lol'd.

Ontopic,

Grenades are too fkn powerful. Im getting killed by frags all the time. No, im not a noob complaining, they are just too powerful and the damage radius is way too large.
Haters gonna hate.

Also, the arena ranking system.. -sigh-
It's just stupid. Nobody is even playing arena. It's a total fail.
No, I dont have any better idea's but id rather have the halo3 "highest_skill" system than the existing arena.

I love halo but it's going worse and worse.


(Also, not the best english writer)


They are a grenades, a explosive device designed to kill.
They grenades were fine in the RECAH Beta, and everyone cried "Nukes".

The grenades from the Beta were identical to those of Halo CE.

AL, No True Skill Rank and Sword Block were the worst features of REACH. (in my opinion)


[Edited on 01.03.2012 7:05 PM PST]

  • 01.03.2012 7:04 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I Gaurantee that if 343 decides to scrap Matchmaking, and goes the route of the PC.

There'd be nothing but praise on the forum.

People would have nothing to -blam!- about except:
The amount of options for setting up custom rules, etc.
The graphics
Griefers. Hell, if they do it right, even griefers wouldn't be a problem. Because if you've noticed, most PC servers have some form of option to vote kick people out of the room if they are playing counter-productively. Instead of relying on behind the scenes math to handle the issue correctly.

It's like real life and the govt.
In the case of Halo, they are trying to control everything.
They control how you play (Playlists)
How often you play (credit caps)
Who you can play with (customs being limited to friends only)
and last but not least they try to act like the police force.(quit bans, mute bans, stupid betrayal system)

I don't need Bungies help in getting away from a-holes. Because their help...is actually a tool for griefers.

[Edited on 01.03.2012 7:12 PM PST]

  • 01.03.2012 7:06 PM PDT