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hmmm... lets sum up what the trailer has shown us:

a - the chief gets back to earth only to find that we had our asses handed to us by the covies - whether the elites are our friends or not, or the brutes are in charge here now, or only the elites in the high charity are aware of the civil war
we do not know... all we know is that the dozen covie ships were very effective against our defenses - after all, they didnt NEED 500 ships to nuke reach, thats just how many they used, and earth isnt as well protected, either.

b - when the prophets carrier warped out of new mombasa in halo 2 (and dragged the buildings and keyes ship with it) the shockwave destroyed the city and uncovered a giant forerunner artifact

c - this huge artifact thing is most probably 'the arc', or main control device for simultaneously firing all seven (well 6 now thanks to the chief) haloes

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d - cortana is still in the high charity with the gravemind, and has either gone rampant (which was already possible due to her age, not to mention the combat stress, access to forerunner archives, and the graveminds manipulation) or working with the flood in some kind of mutual mind-link

now, outside of the trailer, heres my idea of the background we will finally have proven in'07...

as i, and many others have thought (since the release of the novels at least), humans are the descendants of the forerunners:

guilty spark somehow 'recognizes' the MC as the 'reclaimer' and cortana can quickly and easily access the forerunner archives in halo...

MC somehow 'knows' what buttons to press on forerunner computers throughout the novels, as if they were designed by similar minds...

the 'arc' is on earth, with other forerunner artifacts being found on earth worlds (like the crystal on reach and the temple found by the archaeologists in the halo 2 'galaxy letters'...

c'mon people, like the true fanboy i am, ill close with a classic:

"the truth is out there."

...except, think less government alien conspiracy and more 'ha ha prophet of truth, youre killing your own guys trying to go on some half-assed 'journey', and all youre gonna get is MCs boot up your ass when he pimphands the whole covenant and helps humanity discover the truth of the universe..."

god, i love this game!

  • 05.10.2006 8:10 PM PDT
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I have not read the books sorry. Can you tell me where i can get them.

p.s i live in Australia
You can get it at the Bungie Store. Here is a direct link to all three novels http://www.bungiestore.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcateg ory=14&idproduct=85

  • 05.10.2006 8:15 PM PDT
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i was thinking that in halo 2 when the ring was activated then deactivated the rings were around eachother then they were split apart to show them individually, maybe earth or the ark on earth had to be in the centre and would create some kind of freakish oversized grenade capable of wiping the earth out.

also maybe when cortana says i have defied gods and demons she means the forerunners by gods and conenant or flood by demons.

plus maybe humans were not the decendants of the forerunners, but, since we evolved from monkeys we were their pets. cos we sent moneys into space maybe they sent us to fire the halos whyle they ran off like sissy girls

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Me and my friend were totally geeking out about the trailer and reading a ton of stuff soooo... We thought maybe the arbiter is on the phantom that is being escorted by all those banshees or maybe the master chief is on that phantom...yaya master cheif was on the cliff but cortana says that she knows the past and future and all that jazz sooooooo what if really you are seeing a vision through gravemind or w/e? and MC is like experiencing it, cuz that would explain why the banshees dont attack him. So MC is in a dream that has something to do with gravemind making MC have that vision and maybe cortana is either trying to tell MC something or is under gravemind's control. Also the blinkin light thing in the helmet. I saw 2 lightning flashes and one flash from inside the helmet. also why do the two ships at the bottom right of the screen wait to move at the last second before the big city thingy opens. If you go along with the whole "vision" theory then probably that means all the ships in the air are under the control of the prophets and not the elites and stuff. But also if MC is in that phantom them maybe, according to some other theory, The halo's already are firing it just takes a long time for the signal to travel. So MC and some other people must get on the ark so they will live. Everyone else gets to die... kind of a weird theory but ya that is my thought. Cortana says that is how the world ends soo maybe that is just everyone piling into the ark getting ready for the blast.

  • 05.10.2006 9:20 PM PDT
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nice..

  • 05.10.2006 10:08 PM PDT
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when cortana says this is how the world ends , ithink she and the grave guy (forgot his name) are showing him the future because why would she say this is how the world ends instead of "you have to stop it , or get out of there"

  • 05.10.2006 10:31 PM PDT
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Wow never thought of that.

  • 05.10.2006 10:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: vark
when cortana says this is how the world ends , ithink she and the grave guy (forgot his name) are showing him the future because why would she say this is how the world ends instead of "you have to stop it , or get out of there"


ya, if there is ever an end to this franchise, something is gonna explode one way or another. that thing shall be the earth... or mc's head. either or, im gonna be happy. :)

  • 05.10.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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if its the actavation of the rings then wouldnt the whole covie fleet be there? instead there are like 2 capital ships and a hell of a lot of bashees.

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if its tha actavation of the rigs then wouldnt the whole covie fleet be there? instead there are like 2 capital ships and a hell of a lot of bashees.


i believe you are forgetting that high charity was consumed by the flood destroying said fleet.

  • 05.10.2006 10:53 PM PDT
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or, its just a anouncement trailer that has mininum effect on the acual halo 3 story, sound fimilar, it should, fanky said it. Lets say this, we know the structure is real, the chief is still alive, we get to use the AR, and the covenant are still stupid !

  • 05.10.2006 11:14 PM PDT
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I was wondering, hasn't anyone thought that maybe us HUMANS are the ForeRunners? just some thought...
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Yes, but it wouldnt explain y the covies have us. but it is a possibility

  • 05.11.2006 11:28 AM PDT
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  • 05.11.2006 11:29 AM PDT
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when cortana says this is how the world ends , ithink she and the grave guy (forgot his name) are showing him the future because why would she say this is how the world ends instead of "you have to stop it , or get out of there"
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Very true, that ties in perfectly. I think you got a peice of the 5% we may have left out. GOOD JOB!

  • 05.11.2006 11:30 AM PDT
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the on dude was right earlier, one halo will not destrot the universe, if you remember one fires at the end of Halo 2 as he boards the ship, destroying the covenant home world, if it destroyed the whole Universe there wouldn't be a third game!

  • 05.11.2006 11:54 AM PDT
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and like someone said earlier "if this franchise ever ends" you would understand that this is the third game in a TRIlogy which definitely proves it to be the last. not saying that bungie wont conjur up some other fanatical ideas later on down the road involving master chief, but this is the last of the HALO games (which is fine with me as long as they dont make a master cheif pinball or something like that)

  • 05.11.2006 1:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN III 001
pic 4-2nd hint, he looks at the disc with familiarity


Ehm, he is wearing a helmet you know. You can't really see a facial expression...
We even could never see a face at all :P LOL

  • 05.11.2006 1:45 PM PDT

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you can still understand his facial expression. you just gotta connect the body motions to his emotions.

  • 05.11.2006 6:49 PM PDT
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  • 05.11.2006 6:56 PM PDT
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that's a pretty air tight theory, I still teckon the one I posted on Xbox.com a couple of months ago (shortly after the whole "will halo 3 be called forerunner" thing) holds a lot of water. It is quite similar:

P.S. I know parts of this are now horribly disproven, but i couldn't be arsed changing them.


Posted 03-16-2006 9:59 PM
OK, OK.

So it's mere speculation, but I was trawling the internet today looking for something (anything) about Halo 3 - I am a bit sad and do this nearly every day. Anyway, I came across the post by Duo Maxwell allegedly a transcript from the upcoming issue of Game Informer, which claims that the next Halo game will be called Forerunner/Halo: Forerunner or similar and could be a prequel to Halo:CE and Halo 2. Personally some of the info in the post sounded dubious, but it did get me thinking.

Those of you that have played the Halo games and read all the novels will know that the Forerunner were an advanced race who vanished long before the war detailed in the story, leaving behind a load their technology, including the 7 Halos (one of which was destroyed at the end of Halo: Combat Evolved). We also know that the other 6 are scattered throughout the universe so that in the event of a Flood outbreak the universe can be cleansed. This is all very well and good, but how come 343 Guilty Spark recognises the Master Chief (although he's never met him) in the first game and refers to him (and later in Halo 2, Miranda Keys) as a "reclaimer", put simply the humans are the Forerunners. Also:

Cortana keeps saying that the forerunner technology looks familiar.
Master Chief always seems to know how to operate forerunner consoles.
Only the humans can use the Index (when you play as the Arbiter on the last level of Halo 2 you can't get at it, but Miranda Keys picks it up straight away).
After the retrieval of the Index in Halo:CE, when confronted about the true function of Halo, 343 Guilty Spark comments: "But you already know that...I mean...how couldn't you" - "Last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your question, my answer has not changed." This not only shows that the Forerunner destroyed themselves with the Halo weapons, but that the Master Chief, as a human, is mistaken for one of the builders of Halo.
A lot of this information is already scattered around the net, but it seems to fit quite well with the speculation about Halo 3 being called Forerunner. What if - let's call it Halo 3 for simplicity's sake - was not a prequel, but the completion of a circle (or Halo if you will). Right, this is the important bit:

The "Ark" described at the end of Halo 2 is Earth, which explains why the humans were safe from any previous activations of the Halos (not that we know for certain that there have been any).
The deeply religious Covenant, who worship the Forerunners and dispise the humans are going to attempt to destroy Earth in Halo 3. This will not happen, because at some point in the (near?) future the humans will realise that Earth is the key to controlling the Halos and will activate them. This will destroy all life apart from that on Earth, and will in the process destroy the "forerunner" technology on the planet and probably all the Halos too.
The humans will have to recreate the technology from Cortana's memory banks which include info on the halos and other forerunner tech, this will then be sent back in time somehow and the whole process will start again.
This ensures that the humans will always survive and they will always have the technology to defeat the Covenant and the Flood right under there noses.
The Master Chief will be the key to everything - somehow.
Cortana will "expire" in the process of the removal of the Forerunner information.
There will be no more Halo games, unless they are sub plots and unseen missions - very unlikely to happen.
The film WILL most likely be an interpretation of Halo: The Fall Of Reach, but will probably cover the plot of Halo: The Flood/CE aswell. If the film is a success there may be two, or even three more films covering the events of Halo: First Strike, Halo 2 and Halo: 3/Forerunner.
This may well all be bollocks, but I'd be surprised.

Comments and suggestions please, I know there are problems with this theory and things that don't quite add up, but that's were I need your help. Slag me off if you like, I'm a big boy, I can take it.


  • 05.11.2006 7:14 PM PDT
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cool theory, makes sense but i also have a theory:
that gravemind is using cortana to send this message to the cheif.
first line: i have defied gods and demons.
this means that gravemind has defied Forerunners(gods) and Covenant/Humans/Flood(demons) or maybe all three.
I am your shield, I am your sword(s).
im guessing that gravemind is going to protect the chief from the flood but the part where it says that "i am your sword" is a tricky part to understand
remember that if u have a sword, its a really sharp object, if u dont use it properly, u will get hurt, but if u use it properly u will have an advantage, making the user more powerful.
Gravemind is allowing the chief to use the flood to help him stop the activation of the arc, but if the chief doesnt want this alliance, gravemind has the option of killing the chief with the flood. simple terms flood=sword
I know you, your past, your future.
well this part is pretty easy to understand but also requires a lot of guessing. when cortana was left behind, any1 that finished halo 2 will remember that gravemind told cortana to answer its questions. Maybe gravemind asked who the chief was, asked for all of his details in the past. Also gravemind has this ability of foreshadowing, gravemind can basically see the future but the foreshawdowing doesnt allow to see the perfect future but a future that might happen or not happen at all.
"This is the way the world ends", im guessing just a continuation of graveminds ability to foreshadow.
Thats my idea of the trailer.

  • 05.11.2006 7:15 PM PDT
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Good one , just have to see how it goes.

  • 05.11.2006 7:23 PM PDT
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this would explain why the halo(s) geography was so.....earthy

  • 05.11.2006 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN III 001
Gravemind wanted to speak and have cortana listen. so cortana is excerpting quotes gravemind taught her... SHE IS SPEAKING FOR/AS GRAVEMIND PRETTY MUCH!!! She knows the covenants reasons of... and whats going to happen because graveminds been around so long and he implied knowledge to Cortana and let her in on what he knew!!! She is his shield and sword/source (its a 3rd voice over. it says I am your shield, i am your sword (voiceover-Source) thats why it sounds like swordS) meaning that only she knows what will happen!! She is the chief's most immediate source of knowledge. Gravemind told Cortana Chief's future!! and the reason the covie fleet to earth was so small in Halo 2 is because they didnt go to earth to destroy humans... EARTH IS ACTUALLY A LAST RESORT USED BY THE FORERUNNER!!!! It contains the last piece to the puzzle, not an ACTUAL Halo RING....its activated and once the covenant knows the truth and side with the chief and fill him in... its too late.... and the world ends!!!!!!!!!!! eventually...

MOST IMPORTANT CONNECTION- THE EARTH IS THE ARC THAT REMOTELY ACTIVATES ALL THE RINGS....
"So, where would one go to activate the rings then?"
343 Guilty Spark replied, "Why, the Arc... of course!".........

The eight human worlds are the more primitive "Halos" kinda like experiment 1, the halos are the final experiment before the forerunner are all wiped out... They are still alive, some escaped BTW HINT HINT!!

All the screenshots represent something important
1st pic-The activation of the arc
2nd pic- Master chief seems to be on earth but notice he's under an arc? CLUE!
3rd pic-before cortana's speech part two, hes all light and holy looking because he is the key and he will be saved!!
pic 4-2nd hint, he looks at the disc with familiarity
pic 5- cortana is protcting the chief, LIKE A SHIELD


I am your shield. I am your sword. Maybe it's a metaphor. Maybe shield means defense and sword means offence. So that means she could hold information on how to stop the world form ending.

  • 05.11.2006 7:34 PM PDT