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Subject: Forerunners are HUMANS... ?
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i posted this earlier, but i dont think anyone saw it...

anyone look up the definition of Forerunner? i just did, these are some definitions:
1. One that precedes, as in time; a predecessor.
2. An ancestor; a forebear.
3. One that comes before and indicates the approach of another; a harbinger.
4. A warning sign or symptom.

so analyzing 343 Guilty Spark calling the Master Cheif a "reclaimer" -( To bring back, as from error, to a right or proper course; reform) seems to me like the Cheif is supposed to, or rather humans fix the mistakes of the Forerunners-Humans direct ancestors (from looking at the defintion of a forerunner)... in other words, the Forerunners are just an ancient HUMAN race....343 Guilty Spark WAS created for a reason, he knows more than we do, and will most likely be revealed in Halo 3....any theories? i know i didnt make much sense =/ but i hope Halo 3 reveals everything bout the Forerunners!!!

P.S. dont you people love all this, the speculation??? i remember back when Halo 2 was announced...i spent hours reading theories and looking into all this stuff...I LOVE IT!!! =]

  • 05.10.2006 8:40 PM PDT
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according to the games and books we KNOW that forrunners KNOW humans and recognize them dont make any further assumptions

  • 05.10.2006 8:43 PM PDT
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i mean that they ARE humans, we came from them
not that Humans are Forerunners were 2 different races living at the same time...

[Edited on 5/10/2006]

  • 05.10.2006 8:46 PM PDT
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Rest assured, the Forerunners are NOT humans. So humans built the first Halo, eh?

No, just no. . .

  • 05.10.2006 8:48 PM PDT
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An Excerpt on my Halo 3 Paper:

Suppose that the humans are the Forerunner. That would explain why the Covenant hierarchs wanted complete extinction of the human race and would not settle for any negotiations, because the Covenant Prophets want to have supereme power over the galaxy. Plus, it would make sense that the Forerunner would have their home planet be the location of the Ark, both for convenience and for if ever the Flood should return again. Also, the Covenant are said to be "immitative, and not innovative," which would explain why they seek Forerunner relics with an insane desire.

  • 05.10.2006 8:52 PM PDT
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Forerunner is also the definition of an ancestor, look at my the dictionary definitions ^^^

so what do forerunners descend from? what are the ancestors of Fore-runners, fore being before???
HUMANS, just a theory, but i just thought of it because of the definitions, dont yell at me =/

  • 05.10.2006 9:04 PM PDT
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I think its a very good possibility. It makes sense. If you don't mind me expanding a bit on the whole imitative thing. The Flood consume every living thing around them, without prejudice. In a way what do humans do in the real world. Devour natural resources and animals to the point of extinction. I don't mean this to be any political statement or whatever but if you roll with the whole humans using up all the resources on earth thing, the flood in a way immitate this action.

  • 05.10.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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im sorry but weve explored this theory a million million times.

All from the prophets wiping out humanity cus once the covenant learns that humans = forerunners, they would worship us and dump their prophets.

  • 05.10.2006 9:14 PM PDT
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what if the Covenent dont know that? im trying to say that, Humans descended FROM the forerunners, meaning they were also Human, just an ancient race...

  • 05.10.2006 9:18 PM PDT

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you know what i think

ill bet that the forerunners created humans

i mean it would take one fucing hell of a technological regression for us to go degenerate our level of technology from that of the forerunners

so with that said i bet that the forerunners created us in their image so that there race would in turn survive the mass genocide they committed on themselves

this is supported by the fact that in the first halo 343 Guilty Spark said in in like mission 7 at the start that the forerunners activated the rings and subsequently destryoed themselves, all in order to contain the flood and stop them form spreading across the galaxy

so heres what it comes down to

we are descended from the forerunners, just not in any possible paternal way

realizing they could not cleanse the galaxy of the flood parasite the forerunners managed to contain the flood in the ring worlds, and then realizing they could not allow anything sentient to exist while the flood still survived as a species, they turned the rings on themselves and all others to prevent galactic infection

just before doing this they seeded planets with the basis for live, and as their greatest and most magnificent/glorious planet based artifact is on earth they created us in their image

and the coventant simply evolved faster and then instead of creating their own technology for space travel they found forerunner artifacts and used it to create thier own tech (imitation)

and to further prove they created US in their OWN image, which is supported by the fact that we created the means for space travel on our own, and also, despite the fact that the coventant outnumber and outgun and outtech us by millions to zip we have held our ground

in conclusion we are the forerunners reborne and if the covenant know this then they want us annihalated and exterminated because they desperatly want to be the "chosen ones"

that is my theory and my two bits, disagree with it if you wish and revere it if you agree

  • 05.10.2006 9:22 PM PDT
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good theory.
i think the Covenant have been around a lot longer than humans though, i bet they used to fight the Forerunners in a past war or something
but im just trying to say, that forerunners are prolly human, or some sort of human race, ancient but very intelligent...think of the ancients on OUR REAL world...all the pyramids...Stonehenge, the Aztec calender how its soo precise even to this day...ancients weren't so dumb but very intelligent, just like forerunners, we descended from them, but all practice, traditions and technology was lost after they died out.

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  • 05.10.2006 9:27 PM PDT

I still stand by my theory:

The Forerunners were the first race in the universe.
They divided in two, as one set stayed on a home world, and the other left for religious reasons, a kind of religious war.
Those that stayed evolved into Humans.
Those that left evolved into the Covenant.
This explains how the Covenant speak English and have so much knowledge about humans, as well as their hatred towards them.
This also explains why the Ark is on Earth.

However, this fails to explain when the Halos were constructed. That is my admitted plot hole, but I believe them to have been made by the Forerunners who stayed at home.

  • 05.10.2006 9:39 PM PDT
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My theory was that the Covenant races were different "animals" on the Forerunner's "Ark". It's Noah's Ark, for God's sake (haha pun).

  • 05.10.2006 9:41 PM PDT
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and in response to the comment of:

i mean it would take one fucing hell of a technological regression for us to go degenerate our level of technology from that of the forerunners

Hmm, something like the destruction of all life in the universe? Sounds familiar somehow....

  • 05.10.2006 9:43 PM PDT
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well....you gotta go back to the books...if i remember correctly, the Covenant is an Alien alliance, theres a grunt world...an elite world...correct? and they were all forced or they decided to join the religious ways of the Prophets and fight for what they were convinced was holy

  • 05.10.2006 9:44 PM PDT
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imho, forerunner are obviously human. I would say more but it's all in this Wikipedia page about the theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forerunner_%28Halo%29#Succession _Theories

  • 05.10.2006 9:52 PM PDT
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well this been talked bout before. oh ya. forrunner never fought covies. the covies were at an elite vs prophet war then united when discovery of the halo prophecy and forrunner stuff. tyhe human theories are good. biggest hint. thing of forruner on earth. ydoes that annoying glowing moniter dude keep callling US reclaimers. and y not covies.

  • 05.10.2006 9:53 PM PDT
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yes then how the hell did the humans want to build halo's and not even know about them in halo 1 or 2? i mean, in halo 1 they didnt even know what that ring was...or maybe somebody will just tell the humans that it was their race who made em

  • 05.10.2006 9:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Crazy_ass_Hunter
yes then how the hell did the humans want to build halo's and not even know about them in halo 1 or 2? i mean, in halo 1 they didnt even know what that ring was...or maybe somebody will just tell the humans that it was their race who made em


Thats the only flaw in the Forerunner=Human theory. Why did the humans (presumably) forget their technological heritage? One suggestion is that Forerunners consciously devolved themselves so that an event like the last Purge wont happen again by their hands. It would also make for an interesting story twist when the Covenant figure this out (even if the prophets have already).

  • 05.10.2006 10:01 PM PDT
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To put it simply, yes, we are forerunners.

  • 05.10.2006 10:15 PM PDT
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I completey agree on your theoy ADAM8816

  • 05.10.2006 10:17 PM PDT

Posted by: TheBlueRift
Posted by: Crazy_ass_Hunter
yes then how the hell did the humans want to build halo's and not even know about them in halo 1 or 2? i mean, in halo 1 they didnt even know what that ring was...or maybe somebody will just tell the humans that it was their race who made em


Thats the only flaw in the Forerunner=Human theory. Why did the humans (presumably) forget their technological heritage? One suggestion is that Forerunners consciously devolved themselves so that an event like the last Purge wont happen again by their hands. It would also make for an interesting story twist when the Covenant figure this out (even if the prophets have already).


A lot of time must have passed in order for the Forerunners to evolve. Technologies get lost over time, it must have been a very gradual process...

  • 05.10.2006 10:19 PM PDT

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covie only sound like they are speaking english because of the translaton program in mc's armor...... also, we have lost many technological and scientific advancements with religious persecution, the destruction of cultures and communities by neighboring invaders, pillagers etc. did you know ancient egyptians created a flying machine thousands of years before the Wright bros.? now just think, we landed on the moon like 30-40 years later-.... heres my thing- why would the forerunners activate the halos just because the flood might come and eat them. wouldnt the flood just die off after they have eaten up every sentient life form- poof! mission accomplished, everything dead including flood. I think the forerunners would hav fought to the death, not killed themselves on a hunch.

  • 05.10.2006 10:42 PM PDT
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actually humans are the forerunner, y you say? read on

In halo 1 343 Guilty Spark asked the MC (right after cortana takes the index) If it were his (343) choice, would he activate halo? then he says: after having condierable time to think about it.

So its obvious, a forerunner asked 343 that question before they activated halo, and 343 seems to believe that the humans are the forerunner.

if it isnt the human, then we can defenitly rule out the covenant since 343 refers to them as the interlopers

  • 05.10.2006 10:48 PM PDT
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as the interlopers??? whats that?
anyways, good theories...i really cant wait for Halo 3 to reveal what the Forerunners really are..

  • 05.11.2006 4:13 PM PDT