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Subject: Forerunners are HUMANS... ?
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U -blam!- halo 2 was great (with some minor problems) u'll pay for that :(

  • 05.11.2006 8:58 PM PDT
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haha
well....this whole thread was me trying to prove that Forerunners are in fact human...just look at the definitions of Forerunner in a dictionary...

  • 05.11.2006 9:06 PM PDT
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Maybe Forerunners are humans. They built a great Empire, and settled on Earth. They had amazing technology everything. So by accident, the flood is created. That is the Forerunners "mistake." So they built rings to contain the flood, but they had to activate the rings, from the Ark, on Earth, wiping out their existence, and probally radically changing the face of the Earth. A little while later, more humans are there ( the descendants of the Forerunners), please don't ask me how, I don't want a debate over religion vs. science. But I am christian and stick to my beliefs (sniff). The Covanent is formed and they become addicted to the tech. Earth is in the way of their "Great Journey", and they house Forerunner artifacts, so they become the race to wipe out. Cheif is human, a descendant of the forerunner, so he is dubbed the reclaimer, as he must fix the mistake of his ancestors the Forerunners. The mistake being the creation of the flood.

  • 05.11.2006 9:10 PM PDT
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good point there.

  • 05.11.2006 9:12 PM PDT
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hey Veteran Gamer, i like your sig. can i put it as my sig??? how do i quote you on that?

  • 05.11.2006 9:15 PM PDT
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and the coventant simply evolved faster and then instead of creating their own technology for space travel they found forerunner artifacts and used it to create thier own tech (imitation

If you remember somewhere in the book, they say the covenent destory other civilizations and adapt their technology, since they cannot develope technology for themselves. I think the foreruners were alive for bilions of years, and that they developed humans to live longer then what they did. i also think that some rogue forerunners developed the covenant, but since they didn't have the full backing from the others, they were underfunded and didn't design them to be all that great. then before they activated the rings, they planted both races as far away from the rings, were the flood were, so they could developed as much as possible before they incountered the flood.

i think that gravemind was also a rogue forerunners creation, some teenagers (in the forerunners since) were messing around when their pappys were finishing the rings, and OOPs!! so yea, and he probley is able to access the computer mainframe on the ring and is able to contact the other rings and the ark. thats why he is so smart, since the covenant were on a halo ring, and were in the computers, so gravemind learnewd about their technology and history. and used the ark to learn about humans.



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  • 05.11.2006 9:24 PM PDT
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heres my 2 cents:
we all ready know that the 4runners are humans or are related to humans in some way, i believe that the ark was on earth and that is how some of them escaped the extinction of all setient life in the galaxy sure it made them stupid but they survived.
also i think that the reason why the covenant started the holy war with the humans, was becase they found out that the humans where disendants of the 4runners.

  • 05.11.2006 9:30 PM PDT
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no way this is true. The forerunners were not stupid enough to try and hide in the ring, they all wanted to maked sure the flood had to life to feed off of for a long time.

  • 05.11.2006 9:34 PM PDT
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the covenant probley couldn't have figured out about the humans being some how related to foreruners, if they did (some how, most likley not but) they would also know that they were some how related to the covenant too, like i think

  • 05.11.2006 9:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ir0nSpaRTaN105
Posted by: Spartan_1089
why would the covenant not know bout humans living on earth when they've been fighting wars with them for ages?


BECAUSE THE COVENANT DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE HUMAN'S HOMEWORLD WAS RETARD!!!!!!! HAVE YOU PLAYED HALO 1 ?


The during the war the covenant had never anticipated that the humans' homeworld was earth. They had just believed that the humans were simply meddlers in their grand design. That they were colonizing planets "just a littlle close" to the forerunner artifacts. They had been studying their migration patterns for years (refer to the fall of reach). They then decided that the human intentions were to interfere in their "great journey". They then realized that annhilating the human race was the most effecient method to ensure thier salvation. Thus resulting in the human-covenant war.


EXACTLY!!!
the covenant was surprised when they arrived on earth because just like them, they thought that the humans had abandoned their homeworld when the became capable of inter-stelar travel.

  • 05.11.2006 9:37 PM PDT
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The prophet truth knows that forerunners are humans, thats why he is killing us, and that is why humanity has not been invited to join the covenant races.

If the rest of the covenant learned that humans were forerunners, descendants of the almighty forerunners, the covenant would worship humans, not prophets. The prophets don'twant to lose their power so they are trying to kill all humans before their underlings find out.

  • 05.11.2006 9:42 PM PDT

I think that they are killing the humans off because they want the covenant to still follow the great journey and they don’t want humans to stop them. How do we know that they know about the humans, well both times the halos were activated they were activated by humans. So the brute knew that keys had to activate it, watch that scene again. But of course this is all speculation.

  • 05.11.2006 9:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan_1089
where did the brutes come from??? i dont remember if it was in the game...its been so long...but all of asudden they just popped up, there must be some alien homeworld somewhere or something.. very weird



brutes are definately from kashyyk.... haha sorry that was too good to pass up

  • 05.11.2006 10:14 PM PDT

THE SWORD OF DAMECLES SHALL FALLETH UPON THINESELF!

ok one thing i think everyone will agree upon

in halo 3 there had better be one hell of a cinematic or alot of cinematics that are directly written for the point of telling us everything

has anyone here played the original homeworld and that scene in the mission after you save the bentusis asses and then they show the kushans(hiigarans) their true history

i hope they do something like that in halo 3

if were really lucky theyll crack 343 guilty spark open like a nut, and just pour over his data

but in any case my thoery covers alot of stuff and in the case of the flood they are a parasite right and the forerunners just had to be the poor bastards who found the flood

so a flood infection spore latched onto a forerunner and before it could be captured or destroyed it got away and started manipulating its minions across the galaxy

now the forerunners knew the flood where still limited to this galaxy

the forerunners likely laid a trap and seeing as the flood took over forerunners they likely had ships and as we saw in halo 2 they are capable of flying ships as they took over dropships and the an-namber clad

so the forerunners set a trap and lured the flood to the rings to trap them, then the reclaimer wiped life from the galaxy fearing that the flood would escape(and of course they would i mean dont kid yourself into thinking you can contain a parasite look at the fourth alien movie)

this is not as good as my other theory but i just had an idea about it

but back to the start THEY HAD BETTER PUT IN ONE HELL OF A CINEMATIC

YAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH im itching to know

  • 05.11.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cali Remix
Posted by: Spartan_1089
where did the brutes come from??? i dont remember if it was in the game...its been so long...but all of asudden they just popped up, there must be some alien homeworld somewhere or something.. very weird



brutes are definately from kashyyk.... haha sorry that was too good to pass up


kashyyk....hmmm, i wonder how the prophets convinced them to join...

and ya, im sure they will have lots of awesome cinematics with all this crazy, confusing info!

  • 05.12.2006 1:28 PM PDT

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Oh god another Forerunners are Humans thread. This idea is too obvious, and Bungie looooooves their twists. It seems like Bungie wants everyone to think this, which makes me believe there is another horrible twist. Like the Forerunner are the Flood or some -blam!-.

  • 05.12.2006 1:34 PM PDT

THE SWORD OF DAMECLES SHALL FALLETH UPON THINESELF!

well i cant wait to find out and i stand by my own theories

i think this is the best forerunners/humans post around right now

  • 05.17.2006 4:36 PM PDT

My mommy always said there were no monsters, no real ones; but there are.

Earth is inhabited by humans. Duh. Why is there a huge Forerunner structure on earth? Deductive reasoning: Forerunners lived on the earth because it is suitable for life. when they went all around the galaxy they spread their seed, so to speak, to other regions leaving artifacts behind. one planet they arive on has the flood, it spreads, they create the rings, blast themselves. Since earth was their homeworld, the biggest artifacts are probably there, hence large structure in teh movie. now there are still lots of the forerunners on earth that get killed. decomposing bodies emit backteria. after hundreds of million years of evolution humans form from this bacteria and go on with their lives yadda yadda yadda.
this theory technically proves that humans come from forerunners, just in less conventional way.

thats my theory

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  • 05.17.2006 4:51 PM PDT

THE SWORD OF DAMECLES SHALL FALLETH UPON THINESELF!

we have to be descended from the forerunners or else why would the prophets have made the covenant hate us so much

why would their greatest artifact be on eath

why would the great journey lead the covenant right to earth

also

what if the forerunner artifact is ATLANTIS?

that would be a kick in the face

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  • 05.20.2006 1:33 PM PDT

THE SWORD OF DAMECLES SHALL FALLETH UPON THINESELF!

also

what if that artifact blows up?

or if the chief ends up having to destroy it

what would the covenant do then

[Edited on 5/23/2006]

  • 05.23.2006 7:25 PM PDT
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so, i have read other theories and this is what i have kindof put together myself.

-the forerunners built the halos to study the flood
-the forerunners activated the halos to wipe out all food for the covenant (from the game "all beings with sufficient biomass" 343 guilty spark)
-this leaves the things with insufficent biomass (insects, bacteria, alge)
-evolution happens, the humans evolved on earth because of bacteria and such.
-the ark being on earth (possibly) would signify the forerunner's homeworld
-the humans (of halo uniiverse) are directly related to the forerunner because they are "behind on the evolutionary ladder" and with time would eventually become the same beings that the forerunner once were..including knowledge of how they came to be and that they are the "second coming" of forerunner.

  • 05.23.2006 7:35 PM PDT

"the only thing we have to fear is fear it self..... and monsters"

I dont' think that all humans were forunners just the spartans. in the book the chief was a spartan before he had all the upgrades. but in the book when he is on halo it mentions how the symbols on all the holo panels seemed familier to him.

  • 05.23.2006 7:37 PM PDT

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...No before he was trained he was just human kid...
No the forerunners are Dun dun dun FORERUNNERS

  • 05.23.2006 7:38 PM PDT
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That would explain why humans are the only ones who make activate the halos and the covenant can't.

  • 05.23.2006 7:42 PM PDT

I think that the forrunners died and had themselves repopulate the Earth as humans

  • 05.23.2006 7:53 PM PDT