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Subject: Automated group title promotions?

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

I was thinking about the public forum titles. They are automated based upon a system only known by the webteam, we know all that. But wouldn't it be nice to apply the same concept to groups? Create a list of titles and powers for each title (like it is now) but add certain criteria to achieve the title.Member - Post to forums
Title Criteria - N/A
Criteria Requirements - N/A

Veteran Member - Post to forums, post threads
Title Criteria - Post Count/Time (drop down menu of criteria to select)
Criteria Requirements - 100 posts/30 days of membership (select # amount)

Grizzled Member - Post to forums, post threads, post news stories
Title Criteria - Post Count/Time
Criteria Requirements - 350 posts/90 days of membership
Once the member reaches on of the requirements set by and administrator, said member would automatically be promoted. The systems would also manual title changes as well by those entitled to do so.

The example is just a basic idea, like? :)

[Edited on 12.30.2011 7:36 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2011 7:31 PM PDT

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That would be pretty hard to manage if you think about it, but a good idea.

  • 12.30.2011 7:33 PM PDT

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That would be pretty hard to manage if you think about it, but a good idea.

That's the point, you don't have to manage it.

  • 12.30.2011 7:34 PM PDT

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I like this idea very much.

Also, you said also also.

  • 12.30.2011 7:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: spawn031
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
That would be pretty hard to manage if you think about it, but a good idea.

That's the point, you don't have to manage it.
I was about to say the same. Sure, you could leave a few moderation titles with no criteria, only to be hand promoted. But the point is less management. Once it is set up, everything is easy going.

  • 12.30.2011 7:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: spawn031
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
That would be pretty hard to manage if you think about it, but a good idea.

That's the point, you don't have to manage it.


Oh, right. Well then it's still a really good idea.

  • 12.30.2011 7:36 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
I like this idea very much.

Also, you said also also.
Good eye ;)

  • 12.30.2011 7:36 PM PDT

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  • 12.30.2011 7:52 PM PDT

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This is really unnecessary.

Although it might be nice, and I would rather it applied there isn't really any groups so large and active that this is really necessary.

Even running the largest group I don't really see a need for it.

  • 12.30.2011 7:52 PM PDT


Posted by: Buggy Virus
This is really unnecessary.

Although it might be nice, and I would rather it applied there isn't really any groups so large and active that this is really necessary.

Even running the largest group I don't really see a need for it.
It just makes it easier, just because you might not need something doesn't mean you should not be able to have it.

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I like it.


it seems elegant (as far as an internet-group-forum-title-modifier goes)

  • 12.30.2011 9:02 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Technically, bungie.net is group #1. If some type of automated system is programmed to work on the public forums, then it shouldn't be too much trouble to implement into private groups.

  • 12.30.2011 10:34 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.

  • 12.30.2011 10:37 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

  • 12.30.2011 10:39 PM PDT

Spread the love...

Good idea.

  • 12.30.2011 10:39 PM PDT
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:)


Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.

Which is surprisingly effective, if I may say so.

On topic: I don't think it's really needed.

  • 12.30.2011 10:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

He's suggesting that roles within groups shouldn't be used how titles are on the mains; the idea being that roles are strictly used to allow certain privileges to different members.

Don't think I need to clarify but just in case, I mean privileges in the security sense of the word.

[Edited on 12.30.2011 10:43 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2011 10:42 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

Titles exist on the main forum, what drives the title bar in groups is the security role set by the admin.

Personally, I would prefer to see the group security role de-linked from the group-title-bar and while it is defaulted to match the security role, the admin can free-text edit any member's title.

That would allow efficient use of security (instead of attempting to leverage it into ranks) and the admin to "build and use" any title system they want, including giving people pet nicknames of their choosing.

  • 12.30.2011 10:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

He's suggesting that roles within groups shouldn't be used how titles are on the mains; the idea being that roles are strictly used to allow certain privileges to different members.
Yes, but is still the same concept minus added privileges.

  • 12.30.2011 10:44 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Posted by: Recon Number 54

Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

Titles exist on the main forum, what drives the title bar in groups is the security role set by the admin.

Personally, I would prefer to see the group security role de-linked from the group-title-bar and while it is defaulted to match the security role, the admin can free-text edit any member's title.

That would allow efficient use of security (instead of attempting to leverage it into ranks) and the admin to "build and use" any title system they want, including giving people pet nicknames of their choosing.
So basically groups don't have "titles" but simply a "named" security role in the group? And the system is completely different from the public forum titles?

  • 12.30.2011 10:47 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?

Titles exist on the main forum, what drives the title bar in groups is the security role set by the admin.

Personally, I would prefer to see the group security role de-linked from the group-title-bar and while it is defaulted to match the security role, the admin can free-text edit any member's title.

That would allow efficient use of security (instead of attempting to leverage it into ranks) and the admin to "build and use" any title system they want, including giving people pet nicknames of their choosing.
So basically groups don't have "titles" but simply a "named" security role in the group? And the system is completely different from the public forum titles?

Group 1, the main forums, has a surprisingly small number of security roles. Full Admin, Web Team, Master Ninja, Ninja, member and fresh member (unable to post yet)... give or take a few odd ones.

Groups don't require many more, if any.

If the security role display text for a group were editable, then it would be a lot like the various members of the Web Team, (Stosh, Urk, DeeJ, etc.) who have the same security role (I would assume) but each has a different displayed title that was typed in by an Admin.

The trust/title system overrides the display of the security role for members, I would imagine that groups could/should do something similar.

  • 12.30.2011 10:53 PM PDT

It would be an easy program to make but it would most likely cause strain on the website which we all know would be incredibly irritating.

I like the idea but I dont expect it to be implemented.

  • 12.30.2011 10:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?


Titles exist on the main forum, what drives the title bar in groups is the security role set by the admin.

Personally, I would prefer to see the group security role de-linked from the group-title-bar and while it is defaulted to match the security role, the admin can free-text edit any member's title.

That would allow efficient use of security (instead of attempting to leverage it into ranks) and the admin to "build and use" any title system they want, including giving people pet nicknames of their choosing.
So basically groups don't have "titles" but simply a "named" security role in the group? And the system is completely different from the public forum titles?

Group 1, the main forums, has a surprisingly small number of security roles. Full Admin, Web Team, Master Ninja, Ninja, member and fresh member (unable to post yet)... give or take a few odd ones.

Groups don't require many more, if any.

If the security role display text for a group were editable, then it would be a lot like the various members of the Web Team, (Stosh, Urk, DeeJ, etc.) who have the same security role (I would assume) but each has a different displayed title that was typed in by an Admin.

The trust/title system overrides the display of the security role for members, I would imagine that groups could/should do something similar.

This is a good idea, and I'd like to see it implemented. I believe the thing impeding it is the fact that groups are normally on such a small scale that using the roles simultaneously as titles normally works fine.

[Edited on 12.30.2011 10:57 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2011 10:56 PM PDT
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  • 12.30.2011 10:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: Recon Number 54
They're security levels, not titles or ranks. If someone uses them as anything other than a security role, they have to deal with the outcome of using a butter knife as a screwdriver.
Care to elaborate? I was only aware of them being a reflection of activity, longevity, and trust?
Yes, but if you accidentally make a non-admin ROLE into an admin one, you could potentially make a lot of people admins.

And with the slightly convoluted role manager bnet has, accidents can happen.

[Edited on 12.31.2011 12:29 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2011 12:28 AM PDT

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