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Violence is just action until somebody dies.

Please use one of the existing wishlist threads. You'll find links to several in the "Threads of Interest" sticky post.
-- Steve


The following are three things that could happen in Halo 3, nay, should happen, that would make practically every single Bungie fan vomit with pleasure. I think it is important that, even though it may be a trivial maneuver, we express to Bungie what our hearts have been burning most for in the Halo series. Especially seeing as how this is probably the last Halo game ever.

Request 1: THE OTHER SPARTANS
You've probably heard people complain about this constantly, or at least talk about it, but it's apparent that the majority of the hardcore Halo fans were practically expecting the second Halo game to tie into Eric Nylund's awe-inspiring pilot novels. If you were one of those people, you had every right in the world to think this way. Unfortunately, Halo 2's development process was difficult for many reasons, so the last thing on their minds was to have the game include references to the books. It was a major disappointment for all, but we have hope for Halo 3. Why? Because the world gave Bungie enough crap about it. If the fans couldn't make Bungie realize how critical it was to have their games tie directly in with Nylund's books, then the freaking film industry had to; the friggin' Halo movie is The Fall of Reach, if you haven't gotten the memo. So methinks this was the brick that hit them in the face- that maybe it wasn't a good idea to ignore the fact (assuming the books accord to the Halo Bible) that Master Chief was only one of FIVE surviving Spartan supersoldiers. Hopefully, we won't find that Eric Nylund killed them all off in his third book so that Bungie didn't have to worry about it. Still, though, if we finish Halo 3, but then are still left asking ourselves where the flying -blam!- the other Spartans are twiddling their thumbs, Bungie would lack some serious fandom integrity. We want Kelly, Fred, Will, and Linda to join the last fight for humanity, Bungie. And we want to see it on our TV screens. Is that OK?

Request 2: AN EPIC-SCALE FINAL BATTLE
Return of the Jedi, the final installation of the Star Wars saga, would not have been awesome had the climax only been Luke's decisive lightsaber duel with Darth Vader. Even though that sequence was captivating, and probably the most important development in the story, it would have ultimately been a letdown hadn't the entire Rebel fleet taken on the Death Star II and its Star Destroyers above Endor's moon. Just observing the personal conflict the main Character(s) deal with is not enough; not for a saga's climax. It needs to be backed up by that visually dazzling ultimate last grand-scale battle to give us that sense of epic veracity the particular fictional world entails, and how much is at stake. Not only that, it's just freaking awesome to watch and to be in the midst of. We all know how massive the battle of Reach was, and how much of an amazing fight that humanity put up against the Covenant at that battle, and it was simply satisfying. Now we want to live it, though. We want to be in the midst of that last amazing battle, or at least see it happen. So I say we continue to hope and beg that the forces of Earth put up a decent fight against the Covenant's ships and soldiers even in spite of the grim odds. After all, Earth had become a fortress world in Halo 2 according to Sarge's boasts, and the fleet that attacked it was only 2% the size of what took Reach, says Lord Hood. So doesn't it make sense that this battle we thirst for inevitably be in Halo 3? I think so. Get on it, Bungie.

Request 3: A TIMELESS MULTIPLAYER
Contrary to what most of you are thinking, 'timeless' in this context does not mean without time limits or something like that. It simply means good, now and for a long time. Most would agree that Halo 2 multiplayer got old, fast. To keep entertained, people had to cheat and/or constantly demand new gametypes and playlists on live. The fickle balancing made tournaments generally scarce, but even the slightest competitive commitment lead to temper-tantrums. Yes, it is the #1 Live game on the 360, but don't pull that card, because the current selection of Live-able 360 games is a joke. The point, here, is that Halo 3's multiplayer needs to last us. That means it needs as much content as it does balance. Lots of guns that don't suck, new vehicles, melee combos, and how about some real working Covenant vs. Spartan games? Still, multiplayer should be based at least as much on skill than on circumstance, and I think that would please everyone. If it has balance and flare as a synthesis, Halo 3's multiplayer could last for a decade... to professionals, casual gamers, and all in between.

So there you have it. The three things that would probably guarantee Halo 3's perfect success. Mentioning this to Bungie may be pointless by now, but it doesn't hurt to keep trying.

[Edited on 5/13/2006 by Anton P Nym]

  • 05.10.2006 11:13 PM PDT
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Oh I love it! Nice list man. I agree wholeheartedly, we need some serious massive cinimatic-like battle goodness. And the best timeless multiplayer was Halo CE. If Bungie rereleased Halo CE except with the Halo 3 engine, I would never leave my room again. Only thing I disagree with is I don't want to play with the Spartans, because their AI wont be up to par with the books. But I would love to see them in an official cinimatic or two. That would be awesome.

  • 05.10.2006 11:18 PM PDT

There once was a man who didn't believe his rake was in a field, until he stepped on it and it smacked him in the face. Just because you don't believe something doesn't mean its not true.

[their games tie directly in with Nylund's books, then the freaking film industry had to; the friggin' Halo movie is The Fall of Reach, if you haven't gotten the memo.

Hey man where did you read that the movie was going to be based on the fall of reach cause unless it came from bungie (which i sort of doubt since I haven't seen it and I'm here a couple times a week) you shouldn't put too much faith in it.

  • 05.10.2006 11:26 PM PDT

Violence is just action until somebody dies.

Bungie has much less to do with the movie than you think. It's not like they actually wrote the script themselves; the dude that wrote 28 Days Later did. He's apparently a fan of the games and books. They didn't buy the script-- the big production company did. I forgot who it was. Universal Studios or something. Whoever it is, their claims on it would be even more reliable than Bungie's were.

As far as why I think I know this is true, all I can say is that IMDB said it and that it's a popular online rumor right now. It makes sense anyway, seeing as how that's the best possible Halo movie option there is. Do you not realize what it would mean for you to see the battle of Reach on the big screen?

  • 05.10.2006 11:34 PM PDT

There once was a man who didn't believe his rake was in a field, until he stepped on it and it smacked him in the face. Just because you don't believe something doesn't mean its not true.

well as much as I would love to see the fall of reach made into a movie, I don't think it would be a good business decision to do it. Unless they are planning, no matter what, to make a sequel. The book ends before halo comes into the story, so people who haven't played the game will wonder why its called halo when "halo" is not mentioned in the movie. People should keep in mind that the people who make the movie are most likely going to dumb the movie down enough so that people who haven't played the game will still pay to see it. I predict it will more or less just be a adaptation of the game with more backstory thrown in. Besides, IMDB is horrible at predicting rumors, no offense. Anyways, back on topic, I think it would be sweet if the other spartans were in the game, but i wonder would it still "feel" like a halo game if you were no longer the only bada**

  • 05.10.2006 11:41 PM PDT

Violence is just action until somebody dies.

Well the idea is that a sequel is inevitible. If it'll make them more money, they'll make the next movie. Even if they didn't, though, TFOR would sell the most tickets. People aren't so obsessed with Halo that they'd prefer to see the game they've burnt out be remade into a movie. It'd be better to see Eric Nylund's vision come to life.

Anyway this is off topic. The movie topic I made is in the Underground somewhere if you're interested.

  • 05.10.2006 11:46 PM PDT
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The Halo movie is in good hands. Peter Jackson is in the executive producers chair, WETA Digital is doing ALL the special effects for the film, Jackson is a HUGE fan of the game, Jackson will get a great director, the film will be great, or at the very least, decent.

Great wishes. The final battle for Halo 3, hopefully, will make me feel that i am truely fighting for the fate of the Universe. I would personally love to see multiple endings, maybe MC is presented with a choice at the end and has to make a decision. It would make the game a little more open ended i think.

But thats just my opinion, i could be wrong

  • 05.11.2006 12:15 AM PDT

Violence is just action until somebody dies.

To get back onto the subject...

I am honestly going to be severely disappointed if we do not get to see some hardcore UNSC ship vs. Covy cruiser action. I am tired of just being told that all of humanity's forces have been overwhelmed when we have not even been given a reason as to why. The massive fleet Chief saw over Delta Halo hadn't even reached Earth by the end of Halo 2. After seeing the Halo 3 teaser are we supposed to assume that the Covenant have already sent that massive fleet to Earth and successfully conqured it? Without even seeing Earth put up a fight with its orbital defense MAC platforms and its hundreds of armored battlecruisers? What a joke, man. An unfair joke. I am going to ask Bungie what the hell is going on with that, over and over again, until they answer it in the weekly update.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 11:40 AM PDT