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Subject: When is Reflection getting removed from MM?

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Posted by: Andrei Chikatilo
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Posted by: Andrei Chikatilo
It was fine in MLG.


lolwut.

Since when was Reflection in MLG?


V1 and V2

and it was awful there too. better than normal MM but still bad

  • 12.31.2011 5:16 PM PDT

hey if we are gonna remove maps, can we pleas get id of powerhouse? that map is the worst, and it needs to be pulled out of team snipers and living dead

  • 12.31.2011 7:29 PM PDT


Posted by: Cowleyad

Posted by: nicksta14

Posted by: Cowleyad

More losses than wins on your front page tell me all I need to know.

Please, please, please read the OP before you reply again. Red team was camping with the game's FIRST SET OF ROCKETS. They didn't assert map control for that weapon, their spawn gives it to them with no way for blue team to contest it.

"More wins than losses"... What are you talking about? That's how nit-picky you got once you saw my K/D, huh? Nice...

No, OP was complaining about people camping with rockets and shotgun, not just during the beginning of the game, but camping with them in general. Funny thing is, if OP was Red Team, camped with rockets and shotgun, and won the game; not a peep would be made by him on these forums.

Buncha' whining babies on here.

Here's what's funny... You play with a full-team all the time yet your K/D is still terrible. How is that even possible running with teams?


Regardless of k/d, running with a team tells me one thing. He's good enough to make other people want to play with him. I would take him over your 1.76 any day.

OT: If reflection had better starting spawns or moving of the power weapons it would be salvageable. I would still probably hate it but it would be balanced.

[Edited on 12.31.2011 8:39 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2011 8:38 PM PDT
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Im the best halo player in this forum, and reflection sucks.

Anyone who thinks camping with rockets is control is retarded

  • 12.31.2011 9:13 PM PDT

Yeah as stated elswhere, this map should not be removed but weapon spawns should be changed to make more use of the map and stop such understandable camping at the top of the map (guilty as charged). Only forge maps should be considered for removal...oh wait, Arena Zealot anyone?

[Edited on 12.31.2011 9:49 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2011 9:48 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

I noticed that nobody else noticed that Cow's strategy to fight rockets was to make the other team run out of ammo, i.e. sacrifice four deaths. I'm shocked nobody saw that.

When playing Reflection in Team and Squad Slayer, when on Blue team we use jetpack to fly to mid-lift, then fly overhead and shoot down on the guy who ran for rockets. I'm assuming that this strategy doesn't work against better people than those in social, right?

  • 12.31.2011 10:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.

This thread is still going?
Posted by: faceripper v2

Y U NO PLAY REACH

  • 12.31.2011 10:54 PM PDT


Posted by: nicksta14
This thread is still going?
Posted by: faceripper v2

Y U NO PLAY REACH


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  • 12.31.2011 11:54 PM PDT

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You should have said "When will Uncaged and Pinnacle be removed COMPLETELY from MM"

  • 01.01.2012 1:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cowleyad
Evidently, you don't get it.

Ivory Tower in Halo 2 was more balanced because there was a chance to kill the guy with rockets off spawn. Plus, Rockets weren't so overpowered and the shotgun wasn't a longrange rifle. In Halo 2 this tactic wouldn't have worked, because shotgun didn't spawn there, but putting shotgun in a small tunnel area of the map and giving it to one team automatically with rockets will lead to this stupidity. This is not good gameplay.



I doubt Sanuel even cares that this tactic was used against him; the problem is that someone could use it in the first place and have success (or at least, in this case, tie for a while)

Are you high? People used this "tactic" almost every game in Halo 2 Doubles. Take a look at game history for Halo 2. This was unbelievably common for games to end like that. Did you actually play Halo 2??

Halo 2 stressed map control like this more than any Halo game to date. Remember Lockout? Colossus?

Evidently, you don't get it...

  • 01.01.2012 7:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Cowleyad
You know you have just as much of a chance grabbing the respawn as they do, yes? I get the complaining about Red Team getting rockets first, but that accounts for 10% of the game. What about the other 90%?
Wrong. Rockets are practically guaranteed to red team. And yeah, we won, but I didn't find that game very fun due to how much camping there was.

Again, this accounts for the first 10% of the game. In order to "camp rockets" you need to control rocket respawn for the remainder of the game. Think about what you're going to post next before posting.

  • 01.01.2012 7:59 AM PDT


Posted by: Cowleyad
Halo 2 stressed map control like this more than any Halo game to date. Remember Lockout? Colossus?
Calling camping in shotgun tunnel 'map control' is like saying that while tying 0-0 in a football match it's a strong position to just take the ball and pass it around your back four for 90 minutes. Sure, you won't lose, but it'll be boring as -blam!- for everyone involved.

  • 01.01.2012 8:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: ZealotTheSecond
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I would willingly drive to best buy, pay $59.99 plus tax, then drive home, and put it in my disc drive.
What Now!

You pervert! You just crossed the line....

In cowleyads defense, i think some one with 7 perfections has enough experience to know. Ive never run into this problem, but i dont think getting rockets, which usually gets 3 or 4 kills in a spawn, isnt a game changer. If your allowing someone to camp with rockets, find a way to kill them.

  • 01.01.2012 9:58 AM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.

Posted by: Blwulf
In cowleyads defense, i think some one with 7 perfections has enough experience to know.

lol wtf
If you're trying to imply that Cowleyad is good because he has perfections, try again because Sanuel (the OP) has more than 11x his number.

I'm not even going to re-address the 'argument' of "it's one set of rockets, so what".

[Edited on 01.01.2012 10:46 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 10:45 AM PDT

Posted by: Cowleyad

Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Cowleyad
You know you have just as much of a chance grabbing the respawn as they do, yes? I get the complaining about Red Team getting rockets first, but that accounts for 10% of the game. What about the other 90%?
Wrong. Rockets are practically guaranteed to red team. And yeah, we won, but I didn't find that game very fun due to how much camping there was.

Again, this accounts for the first 10% of the game. In order to "camp rockets" you need to control rocket respawn for the remainder of the game. Think about what you're going to post next before posting.


Im sorry, you should think about what you are posting. If you do not drop a weapon in default Reach, at least for team doubles, that weapon will not respawn. If the team is camping in shotgun, we will not make a push because they should get an automatic kill with the rockets they have. The only way for rockets to respawn again is for them to be dropped and used up. There is no need to control rocket spawn as you said because no matter how long we would wait (which we didnt) they couldnt spawn. Sanuel knows what he is saying.

P.S. I was in that game

  • 01.01.2012 10:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cowleyad
Has clearly never played a high-level game on Reflection or Swordbase. I suppose swordbase is your favorite map, since it emphasizes "map control" in the form of camping green lift with shotty.

  • 01.01.2012 11:04 AM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


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Posted by: Cowleyad
Has clearly never played a game on Reflection or Swordbase.

Fixed, lol

  • 01.01.2012 11:06 AM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

How did you finally manage to kill them?

  • 01.01.2012 11:08 AM PDT

Posted by: B Rye
How did you finally manage to kill them?


Sanuel got killed by the guy who used 1 rocket on him. From there on, we just sat back relaxed and decided to not play like little girls. Sanuel used the jetpack to fly over the final rocket that the guy shot. They were bad so we just team shot them.

  • 01.01.2012 11:21 AM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

Sounds reasonable.

Now, I know that in regular Team and Squad Slayer that Blue team can jetpack to mid-lift and then jetpack straight up and shoot down upon the Rocket spawn. I'm not sure how well that'll work against better players, but those kids aren't "better players". Why did you guys not try that?

  • 01.01.2012 11:28 AM PDT

Don't do it wrong...

i think it should be fixed.

  • 01.01.2012 11:30 AM PDT

Posted by: vballryan
They were bad
lol, obviously from all that camping.
Red team camping in the beginning on Reflection = WTF?

  • 01.01.2012 11:31 AM PDT

Posted by: B Rye

We did but they had sprint and went behind the jump ups and rocks.

  • 01.01.2012 11:37 AM PDT

No point to it, when you think about it.

I'm gonna go ahead and use the same argument anti-AL people use: Adapt.

  • 01.01.2012 11:39 AM PDT

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