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Subject: The SPARTAN on the trailer is not John...

Posted by: LIME31
I got his sarcasm...one person has to implement sarcasm and then you get a pile of terrorist chipmunks crashing your party, not fun at all..

Posted by: Extreme Mjolnir
I think you are wrong. So...........so wrong.


Wait, are you saying I'm wrong or the guy who think that the Spartan (im gonna avoid using SPARTAN II for obvious reasons) is not Master Chief. Because I can be wrong too.

  • 05.11.2006 6:57 AM PDT
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I think it's Santa.

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Seriously, here's some quotes from the above link by "just another fan" so you dont have to actually read through the article.

-Asked about the battered state of the Chief's armor, Marcus ventured, "The Chief is shown as warrior who has seen horrific battle – and it shows. The Earth is dry, barren, ravaged by the Covenant."

-Marty hired a 60 piece orchestra and a 24 piece choir to record the trailer music. "I want the viewer to have a feeling of anticipation and wonder for the first fifty seconds or so, up until Master Chief is revealed and they realize that it’s Cortana trying to tell them something," he says.

-"I want them to feel pride and longing the moment Master Chief walks out of the smoke," says Marty.

-(Here's a good one. Forward and everything.) "It is the Chief, back on a devastated and Covenant controlled Earth, standing over the excavation of a structure buried in the crust of our own planet that is the meat of our demo."

-I wanted to make sure that we re-introduced the Chief, show that Earth is thoroughly conquered, with Covenant everywhere, and that there is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust which will provide H3 with the epic journey which we all want."


Now, shut up.

  • 05.11.2006 7:01 AM PDT
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nothing that happens in the book happens in the games.
as far as the games storyline goes there is no other spartans,its on the back of the halo:CE box

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  • 05.11.2006 7:01 AM PDT

Posted by: LIME31
I got his sarcasm...one person has to implement sarcasm and then you get a pile of terrorist chipmunks crashing your party, not fun at all..

Nope it says that MC THINKS that he's the only SPARTAN II left

  • 05.11.2006 7:06 AM PDT
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One would think it would have to be MC mainly because after 2 games a lot of people are attached to MC now. Also he IS the best spartain (sp?) if getting through two Halo's, hordes of covernent and waves of Flood are anything to go by, and it seames unfair that they would give him the boot after so much.

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It is Spartan 117. And he got the assault rifle on his travels. lets not forget. He had to get off the forerunner ship somewhere. It was bound to have landed. Also the fact that he's walking across an african desert suggests he has been somewhere before getting to the dig site.

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Why would Cortana say "I know, your past, your future" if it was a different spartan?

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Good theories. I would tend to agree because, and I don't think anyone has picked up on this yet, the armor is not the same. Sure it might look similar because of the new graphics engine and how the producers would want it to look as nice as possible because the movie is a, "teaser", but the biggest tipoff is the faceplate/sun visor. It's not the same. This has to be a different Spartan.

We can only assume about the assault rifle because it is identical to the one in the first Halo game, which sucked BTW. I distincly remember how it looked because in all of the cutaway movies in the first Halo, the assault rifle always looked out of proportion (minor gripe there). Plus, MC is like a greedy kid when it comes to using his weapons of choice. I don't think he would want to give up his scoped three-burst rifle for the assault rifle.

There clearly has to be more Spartans left because in Halo 2 when MC is on Earth battling with the Marines, they, on a few occasions, say that they didn't think that they would get a Spartan with reinforcements, so clearly there have to be more on Earth, or at least others that survived the attack on Reach and were sent to Earth.

I don't know much about the names of the other surviving Spartans from Reach. Is this from a novel or more speculation? Can someone give me more info on that one?

I hope this sheds some light on the brief teaser. Talk amongst yourselves. You already have the topics.

And yeah, this is purely for discussion, this post is not to be argumentative or tetchy.

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And all the quotes I just posted from the article that Bungie release makes no nevermind to you at all?

"It's John"

"No it isn't."

"The article says it is John"

"Well then it might not be him then."

wtf?

  • 05.11.2006 7:14 AM PDT

PM from Equus Asinus: "Calling me a moron for somthing wich you have no part in is stupid. Maybe if you used proper grammer I would feel you as a threat. But, I think you owe me an apology."

Posted by: Abriel
Seriously, here's some quotes from the above link by "just another fan" so you dont have to actually read through the article.

-Asked about the battered state of the Chief's armor, Marcus ventured, "The Chief is shown as warrior who has seen horrific battle – and it shows. The Earth is dry, barren, ravaged by the Covenant."

-Marty hired a 60 piece orchestra and a 24 piece choir to record the trailer music. "I want the viewer to have a feeling of anticipation and wonder for the first fifty seconds or so, up until Master Chief is revealed and they realize that it’s Cortana trying to tell them something," he says.

-"I want them to feel pride and longing the moment Master Chief walks out of the smoke," says Marty.

-(Here's a good one. Forward and everything.) "It is the Chief, back on a devastated and Covenant controlled Earth, standing over the excavation of a structure buried in the crust of our own planet that is the meat of our demo."

-I wanted to make sure that we re-introduced the Chief, show that Earth is thoroughly conquered, with Covenant everywhere, and that there is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust which will provide H3 with the epic journey which we all want."


Now, shut up.


I think your post fell on deaf ears.

Wolf-

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Very interesting

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I do rember reading somewhere in the last 5 min that that cutscene happens 3/4 of tthe way through the game (or something to that effect). Now rember that. If u think about it a lot could happen in 3/4 of a game. MC could get new armour. And then get the S**T betten out of him which is why it looks so busted.

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more like blind eyes, well, John DOESN'T think he's the only spartan left. He got Fred Kelly and the other ones

Look in the storyboard.. it says chiefchiefchief all over the place.

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New SPARTAN fruit rollups.....available at your local Covenant Grocery Store....

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I doubt hat they will end the halo series and not have kelly come back or at least explain what happened to here and Dr. Halsey. she is probobly going to be in Halo 3 or the next Novel.

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  • 05.11.2006 7:24 AM PDT

PM from Equus Asinus: "Calling me a moron for somthing wich you have no part in is stupid. Maybe if you used proper grammer I would feel you as a threat. But, I think you owe me an apology."

Some have pointed out the fact that the armor looks different. I have noticed as well. But simply because the armor is different or that MC has an assault rifle does not prove anything, nor is it really enough evidence for questioning what Bungie has already revealed to us as the full truth. Bungie has announced this as MC.

Furthermore, MC could have had new augmentations to his armor as this trailer is half-way through the game. There are plenty of things that could happen during that time to alter the look of MC's armor. Let's also not forget that this is a new rendering engine and things may look a bit different than last generation. It could be as simple as that.

As far as the assault rifle goes, MC's ability to be flexible with any weaponry that crosses his path is what makes him the best. The assault rifle, along with every other rendered item in this game, is subject to the same possible alterations as MC's armor due to a new game engine.

Speculation is fun, but let's speculate over a subject matter that has a little more potential.

Wolf-

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It's definitly John. I'm pretty sure the other Spartans have some different color armor or some thing.

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Posted by: whoppersandwich
Nope it says that MC THINKS that he's the only SPARTAN II left


no,i remember that in an update just before halo 2 came out and right after first strike was published frankie was asked if there are going to be the other spartans and frankie answered with something to the effect of:

"no,none of the content of the books will be in the games ,you should consider ot a huge piece of published fan fiction"

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I do rember reading somewhere in the last 5 min that that cutscene happens 3/4 of tthe way through the game (or something to that effect). Now rember that. If u think about it a lot could happen in 3/4 of a game. MC could get new armour. And then get the S**T betten out of him which is why it looks so busted.

Good point. I was just going to point that out but since you did that I am only going to add to you argument. Ok so cortana says "This is the way the world ends" as if it were a vision to MC. I glypse into the future perhaps. Maybe his armor is so beat up because he has been through the whole game. I think that most likely the world would not end right when master chief got here. Sucky game.

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Posted by: SPARTAN No117
I have few theorys why it's impossible it to be john...
Why is he using an Assault Rifle if in Halo 2 you never grab one plus there was little time to grab one since he was in the forerunner ship. I really think it's one of the Spartans that survived on the Fist Strike (Will, Fred, Linda) and Kelly can not be counted because she never got upgraded to Mark VI, and there was enought time for the other Spartans to get upgraded (talking about the time he was on Delta Halo...)


BUNGIE SAYS THAT IT IS THE MASTER CHEIF!!! LOOK AT THE PICTURES IN THE STORY ART SECTION, IT SAYS CHIEF!!! AND HE IS HOLDING THE ASSAULT RIFLE BECAUSE IT IS KICKASSSS, AMAZINGLY BETTER THAN THE battle rifle!!!!!!!

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OMG you are such a flaming idiot there is no way that the spartan in the video could be anybody else but john i mean ok big whoopdy do he has an MA5B Assualt rifle you know we still use some old weapons in out millitary today even tho there are better ones out there and hes been on earth a while the covenant have conqued earth my guess is MC has been fighting guirilla (sp?) the whole time until the game Halo 3 starts thats what Eric Nylund is for to fill us in on what happens inbetween the games and besides all the stuff bungie said about how its MC just seriously look at the facts b4 you go posting some idiotic idea as that

but realy you an IDIOT

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A reason he may be holding the assult rifle is the Bungie may not want to give away new weapons, and since everyone and his dog knows the assult rifle it does not give anything away.
Also maby i dident make sence that all assult rifles went FFHHHOOOMMM! and dissapeared from the face of the universe so it was added back in.
Also if i rember correctly from the spec addition disk of Halo2 it says that the assult rifle was removed because it acted too much like an SMG (or so said the gun nuts) and so was replaced for realism reasons.

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I think it was *JESUS* in MC's suit.

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why do people think the AR was changed to BR the AR is the SMG and the Pistol BR

  • 05.11.2006 7:47 AM PDT