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Good theory...but here is mine. Cortana (in the trailer) voice is garbiled b/c it is from the furture. MC is in the old armor, w/ the old gun Cortana keeps talking to MC to reassure him that she can be trusted (The mc in the video has not met cortana yet) the whole tralier is like a vision.

  • 05.11.2006 7:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mateo_323
Good theory...but here is mine. Cortana (in the trailer) voice is garbiled b/c it is from the furture. MC is in the old armor, w/ the old gun Cortana keeps talking to MC to reassure him that she can be trusted (The mc in the video has not met cortana yet) the whole tralier is like a vision.

That's not the old armour.

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  • 05.11.2006 7:49 AM PDT

First I don't know what point in the game this is so I don't know what has happened before hand, could've gotten the assault rifle from anywhere. I'm sure they didn't totally ditch the ma5b out of the military, no military has worked that way. We still have the m14 in service for gods sake! Secondly, if this were say Kelly, instead of john, then she wouldn't be wearing the mark VI armor, you are right. SO why was that spartan. If you remember, the face plate changed in the mark v to vi armors so he has the ability to bump up magnification (in the game) this time. Also the armor got smaller and more compact (mostly due to a smaller power pack). I theory I saw also stated that his armor was a different color and that proved it as well, which in the books his armor started off an oppulent green but faded from use. This is a very dinged piece of armor, the green is gone. I'm not saying it isn't the chief or is, but there is no logical way to conclude either way. WE can only speculate. I would be intrigued to see it be kelly and hear what happened to her though.

  • 05.11.2006 7:50 AM PDT
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Spartan 117's name is John

His rank is Master Chief, and since hes the last spartan they nickname him Chief.

Surprising isnt it.

Stop calling him Mc, master, chief, gordan...

  • 05.11.2006 7:51 AM PDT
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yea thats even newer armor not the old one

  • 05.11.2006 7:51 AM PDT
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New Bumber sitcker:

WWMCD = What Would Master Chief Do ?

  • 05.11.2006 7:57 AM PDT

PM from Equus Asinus: "Calling me a moron for somthing wich you have no part in is stupid. Maybe if you used proper grammer I would feel you as a threat. But, I think you owe me an apology."

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Spartan 117's name is John

His rank is Master Chief, and since hes the last spartan they nickname him Chief.

Surprising isnt it.

Stop calling him Mc, master, chief, gordan...


Those are nicknames.

Get over it.

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  • 05.11.2006 8:01 AM PDT
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It is John in the trailer, but he's looking a little heavier now...the animation style reminds me a bit of how the Spartan in DOA:4 moves. Maybe Team Ninja had a little influence back on Bungie?

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It is master chief, bungie admited it. Also it is the same armor, but you may yell, but Adfedamine the visor isn't the same, to that I say look at the banner at the top, and just stare at master chiefs visor and sure enough you will see it is master chief. Now about that assult rifel issue, he is traveling through the desert tottaly deffenseless, so he picks up what ever he could find. So, yes it is john 117, and only can be, simply because bungie would not like to have two spartens, it will not feel as cool if there was infact two spartens, it would lose the whole last of his kind thing, and I side with bungie on that. Finnaly his armor is ment to look worn, damaged, slitly discolored, he has been in a war people.

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  • 05.11.2006 8:07 AM PDT
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and by the way, its spelled spartan


And by the way it is S-P-E-L-T spartan.
Dumb*blam*

  • 05.11.2006 8:12 AM PDT
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Stop the hate, why can't we be friends guys? Can't we sit at our computers, and watch that trailer over, and over again trying to find clues?

  • 05.11.2006 8:16 AM PDT
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That might bring up a new function in-game: armour damege. Take a Carbine round to the leg and end up with a gash there.
One other thing: Watch the movie. Dont talk, just watch. Now honestly tell me that wasent MC. Just the way he moves seams like hes been through a lot, like he has a weight on his shoulders. May just be me though.

  • 05.11.2006 8:17 AM PDT
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Hey, I was telling my friend that they should do that, Wraithstrike. BUNGIE!!!!! get this idea jotted down if you havent done so already!!!

  • 05.11.2006 8:18 AM PDT
Subject: The SPARTAN on the trailer is not John...

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If you read First Strike, it introduces the BR, Magnum, and Brute shot to Humans for the first time. The Mag' and the BR are new shipments and just came in, so they probably got rid of all the Assault rifles to use the more accurate BR.

Now that they're on Earth there will be more up close fights in cities and such, so they may have issued Assault Rifles as well as BRs. Or maybe combined the two, and removed the scope...(though the Chief can still use his Helmet linked scope like he did for the Halo CE Pistol.)

  • 05.11.2006 8:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: benjE
and by the way, its spelled spartan


And by the way it is S-P-E-L-T spartan.
Dumb*blam*

Go back to English class. LOL.

  • 05.11.2006 8:21 AM PDT
Subject: The SPARTAN on the trailer is not John...

"Do it right the first time" - Unknown

Even if it is another Spartan it dosn't really matter, because everyone looks the same. =P

  • 05.11.2006 8:21 AM PDT
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deffine weight: physical, or mental due to him and cortana at different sides of the universe?

  • 05.11.2006 8:21 AM PDT
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Also, the other spartans were on earth during halo 2, so they probably wound up dead or are fighting covies elsewhere

  • 05.11.2006 8:24 AM PDT
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When they say "the Chief" they can be referring to any of the other Spartans. Remember, they are All in the Rank 'Master Chief', he is just a first class I believe and they are 2nd or 3rd class..

But I still think it's the Chief since none of the other Spartans got upgraded armor, they only through a few newer internal parts into their existing armor..

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A military rank is considered a common noun in English unless it is followed by a proper title, i.e. Master Chief John. Otherwise, the rank is 'master chief.'

  • 05.11.2006 8:30 AM PDT
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Damnit people! In the game world (not the books) all the other spartans are DEAD. D-E-A-D! What part of "last of his kind" dont you understand? For a start, having more than one would ruin the whole lonely, last of his kind desperation thing. And another, in the game world, the events of First Strike never happend, for the same reason; the other spartans are DEAD. It even says it on the back of the Halo CE box!
All these speculations for other spartans will come to nothing. Someone said earlier that the other spartans were on earth. Where? And if they were, wouldnt they have been at least mentioned in Halo2? And before Halo2 came out, there were speculations about other spartans but they came to nothing too. One misguided jackass suggested that (i cant remember his words exactally) "The spartans will each take a different zone of earth to fight on but about four levels in they will realise its just to hard so they all meet up and...." and from there it just goes from bad to worse.
The books have no effect on the story line of the game. Halo 2 proved that. Get over it.

  • 05.11.2006 8:41 AM PDT
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Um, this was previously posted but I'm positive it is the MC

"Marty's music was designed from the ground up to lull the listener into a sense of doubt, then wonder. "I want them to feel pride and longing the moment Master Chief walks out of the smoke," says Marty. "I want them to get excited and perhaps even froth at the mouth when they see the Covenant Capital ship and then the incredible buried artifact. I want them to be left with that, 'I can hardly wait to play this game' feeling by the end with a slight, 'I wonder what she meant by that' aftertaste."

  • 05.11.2006 8:42 AM PDT
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story bible...................it's all the same

  • 05.11.2006 8:43 AM PDT
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  • 05.11.2006 8:47 AM PDT

Chief petty office 1-3 class is a different rank. Master chief of the navy is the highest rank you can achieve without being an officer (Military life). Also, I don't see the ma5b being brought back for short range purposes, sure in halo that is what it was good for but bungie caught a lot flack for being inaccurate with weapon ideas. Rifles are accurate, not bullet hoses. SMG's are bullet hoses. The are reasonably accurate in bursts but there main purpose in life is to put out alot of bullets in a short period of time. A bullet to the head or a well ventilated chest cause the same results, which one is easier to do at short range in a split second? Anyway, I can't see them bringing it back for that. I also don't remember reading about the spartans being on earth, but I suppose I don't know everything. However, I do know it took them being on reach to kill alot of them, if they are on earth, I'm betting they aren't dead. My thought here, weapons don't just fly off the shelves in militaries with they change weapons, they are phased out. So I'm guessing not everyone has the br55, and if you are in need of a weapon and ma5b's are all that is available, you take what you can get. If they are really going to bring it back and don't change their mind on that, I would be interested to see how they do that, because after the br55 I don't wan to go back!

  • 05.11.2006 8:50 AM PDT