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Subject: The SPARTAN on the trailer is not John...
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Posted by: Wolfdude387
Posted by: CPO Fraser
Frankie jsut said that that spartan was John in the update, case closed its him.


Please give me a qoute of him saying that.


Once again, for about the tenth time in this thread:

Posted by: Frankie
There wasn't much to show at the moment, since we're keeping things under warps for now, but CJ clued everyone in on the 3-mile wide Covenant artifact, Cortana's state of mind and the Chief (no it's not Linda, or Kelly…) battered Mjolnir armor.


That was from the news update of 5/11/06 (today).

  • 05.11.2006 3:58 PM PDT

It cant be another spartan in that trailer because they say its the chief. Its that simple. There may be more spartans in the game, but in the trailer its the CHIEF. So wolfdude just stop trying to get ppl angry.

  • 05.11.2006 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolfdude387
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I can prove its not another spartan. LOOK AT THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS WEBSITE!!! And i wasnt saying noob-let, i was saying nub-let. There is a difference in how they sound.


Nope. They never refer to him as "John" in the update.


While you do have a point there, he specifically named other Spartans saying that the one from the vid was not one of them.

  • 05.11.2006 4:01 PM PDT
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Why would they put another spartan on the first Halo 3 trailer lol? Plus Cortana wouldn't be talking to another spartan, Master Chief is the one who carries her around.

  • 05.11.2006 4:02 PM PDT

Everyone talking about others being "narrow-minded" due to the fact that they can't think it's a different MC... you're all idiots. The only Spartan designated MCPO is John, our very own Master Chief. There isn't a possibility that while referring to Spartans that there is any other Master Chief. It's plain rediculous to call yourself a Halo fan when you don't even believe that the guy in the trailer, due to a little new stuff like weapons, gloves, and appearance of armor color due to the xbox 360's awesome capabilities, is the Master Chief (John). It's just retarded that any Halo fan could think that. I'm fine with more Spartans (I really hope so, I hope that bungie also makes halo 3 online co-op like PDZ) but im not fine with morons trying to prove that that guy isn't the MC. BUNGIE HAS CONFIRMED THAT IT IS, THEY DONT EVER REFER TO ANYONE ELSE AS "THE CHIEF"... get it right people, get a reality check. its great to have imagination, but when stuff is already stated and proved, its just retarded to try and change the truth.

  • 05.11.2006 4:02 PM PDT
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um guys it could be in a "in the middle" scenes

  • 05.11.2006 4:04 PM PDT
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actually it is John if you read todays update...

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Posted by: Warrior Light
Why would they put another spartan on the first Halo 3 trailer lol? Plus Cortana wouldn't be talking to another spartan, Master Chief is the one who carries her around.


The biggest thing I keep running into with all these theories, is that Bungie has a tendancy to defy logic with their "Easter eggs" (BTW: why the -blam!- do we hide eggs on Easter?). I'm sure Frankie is reading this thread and laughing his ass off.

  • 05.11.2006 4:06 PM PDT

Attention people, you are forgetting one HUGE thing here. Bungie can't(well they could, but you know what I mean) base the game off the books. There can't be any Kelly or whoever the others were. Lots people haven't read the book, so there would be confusion. They also said it was MC's battered armor. And if you think it isn't him because it's darker, NEWS FLASH!!! He just crashed form a giant ship at thousands of miles per hour! Are you telling me that you think you wouldn't be hurt? As for the new assult rifle, maybe he picked it up. Ever think of that? It could be laying on the ground, or in a weapons depot, or maybe the covenant cae to Earth unprepared, and therefore had to use Earth weapons, and chief stole some.

  • 05.11.2006 4:08 PM PDT
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Me and my friends were talking one daay and they said what if bungie made it so that in halo 3 you had other spartans to help you on campagin and not marines. Also why is the armor chiped

  • 05.11.2006 4:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: its me el evano
Also why is the armor chiped


Hmm... probably because of all the times you got pwned on Legendary... just a guess :)

  • 05.11.2006 4:14 PM PDT

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.


read the forgotten spartan by rainman89

Yeah they say it right on the bungie post its mc

  • 05.11.2006 4:14 PM PDT

the armor is chipped because of battles hes been through. It is only metal. So a fast moving object CAN damage it. Remember, the sheild goes away. After there is no shield your left with only metal.

  • 05.11.2006 4:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Warrior Light
Why would they put another spartan on the first Halo 3 trailer lol? Plus Cortana wouldn't be talking to another spartan, Master Chief is the one who carries her around.

uh dude he and cortana are a galaxy apart....(nice remembering the ending of halo 2 genius)

PS: if you remember the ending you would know that the chief left cortana in the covanant city

  • 05.11.2006 4:16 PM PDT

(10:19:49 PM) Scruss: oh and pezza, i saw what you did to that cat
(10:20:17 PM) Pezza: You were the one with the video camera breathing heavily. Of course you saw.

Posted by: Wolfdude387
Posted by: Seven is Darker
Posted by: Great_Pretender
So your reasoning is that s/he has an assault rifle?

What if it isn't an assault rifle? It may be a new gun that just looks like one. I wish people would stop trying to come up with theories when there's only 1 1/2 minutes of footage to analyse.

-TGP-


I agree.

Its irriating that most people on here started speculating like crazy after they say the video, why can't they just believe what is in it? They have to go.. Oh no thats not an Assault rifle, and thats not John. Even though Bungie has clearly stated that it IS John. Stop with the stupidity people!


Stop being narrow-minded, and stop trying to ruin our fun.



What fun is that? believing its somethings its not?! They've already told us!

  • 05.11.2006 4:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Seven is Darker
Posted by: Wolfdude387
Posted by: Seven is Darker
Posted by: Great_Pretender
So your reasoning is that s/he has an assault rifle?

What if it isn't an assault rifle? It may be a new gun that just looks like one. I wish people would stop trying to come up with theories when there's only 1 1/2 minutes of footage to analyse.

-TGP-


I agree.

Its irriating that most people on here started speculating like crazy after they say the video, why can't they just believe what is in it? They have to go.. Oh no thats not an Assault rifle, and thats not John. Even though Bungie has clearly stated that it IS John. Stop with the stupidity people!


Stop being narrow-minded, and stop trying to ruin our fun.



What fun is that? believing its somethings its not?! They've already told us!


Having seen (and participated in) the hype and speculation and wild guesses that came along after Halo 2 was announced, I find this kind of thing can really help pass the time until the release date quite nicely.

  • 05.11.2006 4:20 PM PDT
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Everybody is talking about the stupid gloves...Cant they just look different because its the most detailed model of the Chief ever. i.e. That means they would look a bit different just like the rest of his armor does..

  • 05.11.2006 4:25 PM PDT
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It is John wow Assult rifle wow ohh ahh

  • 05.11.2006 4:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: GreatLegend 117
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Yea they say it's the MC but they also said "we are not working on Halo 3"


Are you retarded?!? They never completely denied Halo 3, they just never admited to working on it. And on the latest update they clearly say it is not another Spartan.

Posted by: Wolfdude387
Bungie never said it was the Master Chief from the first two Halo games. All they said is that it was the Master Chief. There is a difference.


Once again....are you retarded?!?! John is the Master Chief, there is no other Master Chief. Have you read the books?

They are all ranked Master chief Petty officer 2nd class, except for our MC, who is first class. So, as a generalization, when saying "Master Chief" it can be any one of the surviving Spartans since they all get back to Earth (except Kelly)

  • 05.11.2006 4:39 PM PDT
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i.... you... just... omg u guys are really dumb

if u havent read the books dont say anything you know nothing and just... im in shock at the stupid SO PLZ DONT POST IF YOU HAVNT READ THE BOOKS OR WATCHED THE MOVIES IN THE GAME CLOSLY thx

no one said that the guy in the trailer is the one you play as


the light sure it might be an agnologment light but who ever it was therory about it showing outside so the other spartan would know they got it ur dumb they reciver just blinks back

and the trailor takes place 1/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH THE GAME not the begging or the end

at the end of halo 2 there was still a good size human fleet left and earth was holding

his armor is dented and scrached from halo 2 they didnt show in halo 2 for there own reasons

o and a thing i just relized the guy who said it flashed 3 times then a nod when MC tells an order the others respond with an agnologment light 1 for each of them (will fred and linda) works perfect

cortana can talk to who ever she wants

also any spartan, ship or anything else with a crystal matrix can hold an AI whether its cortana doesnt matter if MC found an AI he could put them in his suit if he wanted

and ill repost my post 5 pages back seeing as how a bunch of people dont read the posts before they put theres

there are 7 (not includeing the ones not combat suitable like "fhajad" i think)

kellys off with dr hasley
fred linda and will are some where
john was left in the forerunner ship last
and there were 2 who were to far away to gather at reach for the mission to board a covie craft and steal it.

the 2 spartans who were to far away to gather at reach for the mission to board a covie ship means it could be one of them

fred was the one who recieved the enhanced gloves

the spartans are almost identical while in there armor and only the spartans, mendez and dr hasley could tell them apart

it could be kelly seeing as how her and hasley left on a ship used by old rebells on the asteroid they had attacked over 25 years before. the rebels wouldnt of gotten BRs by the time they had arrived in there hybrid gettysberg/acendent justice ship. basicly the weopons on the ship would be ARs and other older weopons and the SMGs hasley took with her

all the mjolnir armor for each spartan was the olive green brown color so who ever it is is covered in dust

it could be the Spartan III's that mendez went to train. its been a little bit so i dont remember the date when he left but the III's probly started at age 7 and i think mendez left 25?10? years before halo:CE making the III's at least as old as the II's were when they went on there first mission infiltrateing the rebel base they went back to in first strike.

or it could be the origenal spartans that who were made in 2507? i belive

and to the guy who talked bout the halo:ce manuel it said master chief was last of his kind is because when they fled reach the planet was being glassed while most of the spartans were on the surface an un survivable situation. and linda had her head leg and chest blown open stuffed in a cyro tube.

and to anyone who plans on saying its spartan 483 form DoA 4 they have nothing to do with halo being that the numbers went to 150? (its in first chapter of fall of reach)

ive read the books 7 times each and are the only books i do book reports on and often open to a random page and read a little. also ive beat games many times and pay close attention to cinematic sequences.

i offer no opinion on who it is im just correcting the constant pulse of tard resinating from many of u (manly the im gunna say i read the books and all spartans r dead to look smart guy) o and im srry bout being mean to you especially since ur dumb made me smile

if it isnt master chief that bungie has said something in there explanation of the trailer that is so incredebly unnoticable but tells us exactly who it is like how they say chief with out the master like someone noted

also we know of bungies treachery in the past which means basicaly this trailer was meant for us to do just this argue and make 89 pages of topics in 3 days

ill be back later to yet again correct, add, discredit, and point out the dumb later

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  • 05.11.2006 4:40 PM PDT

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Will somebody please put this retard out of his misery.

First of all its not liek the second MC gets off the ship he is gonna land there at that moment. That vid could be in the middle of H3.What you just said is the most retarded and idiot thign i have ever heard.For saying this you should be banned and mat god have mercy on your soul.


who was that directed toward? if it was me, heres my reply

it doesnt necessarily even have to be in h3, the halo 2 announcement trailer had a similiar level in the game, but it wasnt there... an announcement trailer can just be showing off what its gonna look like, giving a sneak peek to the plot without actually directly revealing anything.

and for all the more spartan believing people

There wasn't much to show at the moment, since we're keeping things under warps for now, but CJ clued everyone in on the 3-mile wide Covenant artifact, Cortana's state of mind and the Chief (no it's not Linda, or Kelly…) battered Mjolnir armor.

thats in bungies last top story... that might mean more spartans. :D yay! and they confirm its the chief too. PWNED. EVERYONE WHO SAID ITS NOT... PWNED.

honestly people... who else could they refer to, after these 5 years of halo, when they say "The Chief" HONESTLY... its him. get real.

If that's a direct quote, then you're wrong when you say they say it is our Master Chief that we played as for the last 2 games.

They denied it being Kelly and Linda, but there are still male survivors. So, it may be another Spartan, though it most likely is not.

  • 05.11.2006 4:42 PM PDT
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In First Strike Fred is the Spartan with the upgraded gloves...

  • 05.11.2006 4:43 PM PDT
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over analyzing makes people look like fools...which all of you are right now..for going oh nooess its fred..im dumd i didnt read the update, i didnt read other posts above me, i answered to the first post instead of reading the latest ones.

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  • 05.11.2006 4:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolfdude387
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I can prove its not another spartan. LOOK AT THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS WEBSITE!!! And i wasnt saying noob-let, i was saying nub-let. There is a difference in how they sound.


Nope. They never refer to him as "John" in the update.


While you do have a point there, he specifically named other Spartans saying that the one from the vid was not one of them.

Both of them being female, and one being away from Earth. I think he shyed away from the other names because they're not exactly sure who you will be playing as during that portion of the game.

Remember the Arbiter? That was a whole new character introduced. Guess what? You played as him!

Stop shooting down the idea of there only being one playable character.

  • 05.11.2006 5:02 PM PDT