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Subject: What is the big deal about the assualt rifle?
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Why do so many of you want to see it again? it was an inaccurate, spray and pray weapon....almost totally useless in an open area map or if you were more than 20 feet from the person. The BR is a much better option IMO because at least it can be used across an entrire map. Why is there all these demands for the assault rifle back???!

  • 05.11.2006 9:27 AM PDT
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bump

  • 05.11.2006 9:31 AM PDT
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You're kidding right?

  • 05.11.2006 9:32 AM PDT
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no, please explain why you all are drawn to the assault rifle

  • 05.11.2006 9:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: ScreaminSeamen
Why do so many of you want to see it again? it was an inaccurate, spray and pray weapon....almost totally useless in an open area map or if you were more than 20 feet from the person. The BR is a much better option IMO because at least it can be used across an entrire map. Why is there all these demands for the assault rifle back???!


I don't know either, but the reason i like seeing it in the cheifs hands, is because bungie is not known for doing to same thing over again, so im assuming the one in the vid (if in the final version of H3) won't be the Halo 1 version, they will probably make it something really cool.

edit: forget something

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 9:33 AM PDT

Posted by: ScreaminSeamen
Why do so many of you want to see it again? it was an inaccurate, spray and pray weapon....almost totally useless in an open area map or if you were more than 20 feet from the person. The BR is a much better option IMO because at least it can be used across an entrire map. Why is there all these demands for the assault rifle back???!


You don't get it... it's the SMGs that are spray and pray, and they took over from the assault rifle. The BR took over from the pistol.

  • 05.11.2006 9:35 AM PDT
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Well, actually BR wasn't there to replace AR, it was SMG that replaced AR. And do you honestly think that SMG would be better than AR?
BTW, just to remind you, bumping's not allowed at Bungie forums.

  • 05.11.2006 9:36 AM PDT
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People want it back because when they realized they sucked with the SMG they blamed it on the abscence of the AR--"This sucks! the Assault Rifle was much more powerful!"--really it's just that the gameplay in H2 is different than H1

  • 05.11.2006 9:38 AM PDT

The AR owned ....if you could use it that is. ive seen people take a bazooka and go wheee now im the champion....bang next thing they know a guy with a needler owns him. so yeah imo the AR is awesome and im glad its back

  • 05.11.2006 9:38 AM PDT

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I believe they will keep the SMG and the Assault rifle.. The AR is incredibly powerful and kills quickly in close quarters. The SMG is less powerful and can be dual-wielde with other weapons. Why get rid of them? They're two completely different weapons. I noticed the AR now has a longer barrel as well, maybe it's replacing the BR as an "Accurate" (to a point) machine gun, or a semi-automatic shot like the original BR was going to have. Don't jump to conclusions.

  • 05.11.2006 9:38 AM PDT
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no the AR and teh sMG are exactly the same u just thought it ownd cuz u kept killing all your bad friends on lan u get on live and get destroyed get over it the pistol wasnt replaced its still there just not as dominant as it was now we have a BR which took the role of a more dominant weapon sry ur bad

  • 05.11.2006 9:41 AM PDT
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Can I remind ppl that this game is going to take place on Earth, and while part of Halo 2 was played in New Mombassa, I think in 3 that MC will find a depot of old weapons *old pistol, old AR, etc...* I mean in this game everything is open for conjecture right now, so let us assume that Bungie puts all the weapons from both games into Halo 3, wouldn't that allow for the AR from Halo: CE to be there? Also, I saw a moderator say something about it could be a new weapon, but just looks like the old AR. Either way, we have a yr to wait!!!

  • 05.11.2006 9:44 AM PDT
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I'm glad they brought it back because its awesome, and it reminds me of good times from Halo 1, full stop. BR sucks, i hate its 3-burst fire mode.

  • 05.11.2006 9:44 AM PDT

Posted by: ReTrO rUsHr
no the AR and teh sMG are exactly the same u just thought it ownd cuz u kept killing all your bad friends on lan u get on live and get destroyed get over it the pistol wasnt replaced its still there just not as dominant as it was now we have a BR which took the role of a more dominant weapon sry ur bad


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  • 05.11.2006 9:48 AM PDT
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I really can't understand why any one would want the assault rifle back. The game play in Halo 2 is much more balanced than was Halo. Although I did notice that the barrel on the AR in the trailer is considerably longer than the original. Perhaps it’s a variant? It could possibly have more BR functionality, because in its Halo iteration it’s not technically a rifle at all. It was a fully automatic machine gun akin to the AK47. The BR is much more like the M16 which is a true rifle. I'm simply looking at it as the game play is much more balanced in halo 2. Others may consider the original Halo to be more fun. I think the game play, because of the changes Bungie made to the weapon lineup, is much more tactical and more suited for large maps and online play.

  • 05.11.2006 10:23 AM PDT
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Well, in Halo: CE I got very easily bored with it, but I liked the teaser anyways...just hoping that they're NOT putting back the pistol from the first game, it was just too powerful, hell, I could make the whole game with it (with exeptions).
They should keep the Battle Rifle and the SMG, and the rest of the weapons in Halo 2, exept the shotgun...it was too stupid on that game, so I think that they should take back the power of the old shotgun and maybe give it a new design...and DON'T say the pistol from Halo 2 sucks, you can kill a Grunt or a Jackal with it...with ONE shot, and if you dual wield it with a plasma pistol, you can easily kill an Elite too (not so easy with the white ones).


I think the list should be like this:

Assault Rifle
Battle Rifle
SMG
Pistol (from Halo 2, and maybe a little more powerful...)
Shotgun (with power!)
Sniper Rifle
Rocket Launcher (still with heatseeker!)
Frag Grenade
Covenant Carbine
Beam Rifle (maybe with new design too?)
Elite Plasma Rifle
Brute Plasma Rifle
Plasma Pistol
Brute Shot (funny, but also f****** annoying!)
Fuel Rod Cannon
Plasma Grenade

AND OF COURSE MANY NEW WEAPONS TOO!!!!

  • 05.11.2006 11:36 AM PDT
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Well Bungie never really got rid of the AR is was simply absent in Halo 2 but maybe it will make it will make an appearance or maybe it is a new weapon but share's the same look as the AR. Hopefully they get rid of the SMG, Cough *Crappy* Cough Cough. But then again the AR sucked as well maybe they are just putting it in to have more weapons for anyone that actually uses the AR or SMG but who knows Bungie is real good at keeping secrets.

  • 05.11.2006 11:43 AM PDT
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That is a good point. You have to think about it in to context that it was presented. It’s not like they melted down every single assault rifle in the universe to make battle rifles. The Earth is more or less destroyed; its possible that that is the only weapon that Master Chief has available to him. I had no problem using the AR in single player Halo and honestly I wouldn't mind having to use it again. It also is no indication of the multiplayer weapon line up. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have the utmost faith in Bungie I know they’ll do a good job.

  • 05.11.2006 12:36 PM PDT