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Subject: What is considered a good KD?


Posted by: Zomechin
It's funny how much better FT was than WAY despite it having a similar member base.
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  • 01.01.2012 3:37 PM PDT
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Whatever you're comfortable with. It doesn't matter what others think of it; what matters is if you like how well you perform.


Not really... if a quarterback throws five interceptions a game do you think he's a benefit to his team? Not likely. Even if he is satisfied with throwing five interceptions a game it doesn't mean everyone else (his team) is.


This isn't exactly a good comparison; in Football, you're with the same group, and you MUST play well. Not to mention, there's money on the line...

In Halo, most players are randoms; it hardly matters if you play well with a group of people you've never met and will never meet again.

If you're playing with people you know, they won't care how well you do. Or at least, they shouldn't.

  • 01.01.2012 3:37 PM PDT


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If they filled every stereotype they would cancel out other stereotypes that they fill. /logic


You're thinking too hard.
Maybe that is thinking too hard for you. For me it was pretty obvious

  • 01.01.2012 3:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Posted by: And Im Here Too
Whatever you're comfortable with. It doesn't matter what others think of it; what matters is if you like how well you perform.


Not really... if a quarterback throws five interceptions a game do you think he's a benefit to his team? Not likely. Even if he is satisfied with throwing five interceptions a game it doesn't mean everyone else (his team) is.


This isn't exactly a good comparison; in Football, you're with the same group, and you MUST play well. Not to mention, there's money on the line...

In Halo, most players are randoms; it hardly matters if you play well with a group of people you've never met and will never meet again.

If you're playing with people you know, they won't care how well you do. Or at least, they shouldn't.


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None of that negates the fact that you can still be a detriment to your team.
Your answer is not really a direct answer because someone can still a loser even if they consider themselves a winner.

The question posed was, 'What is considered a good KD?' and not, 'What KD makes you happy?'

A negative KD is not a good one. Period.

  • 01.01.2012 3:40 PM PDT

as long as yu positively break even then it should be fine.


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  • 01.01.2012 3:43 PM PDT

Then they wouldn't be statistics would they? /logic #2

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Posted by: Viper Skills
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None of that negates the fact that you can still be a detriment to your team.
Your answer is not really a direct answer because someone can still a loser even if they consider themselves a winner.

The question posed was, 'What is considered a good KD?' and not, 'What KD makes you happy?'

A negative KD is not a good one. Period.


It's an open ended question; if you think it's an equation, you're doing it wrong.

The definition of "good" is subjective. Yes, I'm pulling the 'opinion' card. (Though yes, it's pretty much universal that if you're negative, you're bad.)

I'm only at 1.00 last I checked. I don't care; to me, that's fine. I think that's decent. Maybe you think it's bad, and that's cool. Maybe the person after you thinks it's average, and that's cool too. Maybe the person after that thinks it's good; alright, cool as well.

It's like asking, 'are apples good'? Try giving a definite answer to that. If it's rotten, then yes, it is bad. Nobody will argue with that. Beyond that, it's subjective.

Edit: WTF was I thinking, missing a word like that?

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  • 01.01.2012 3:48 PM PDT
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I'm not really in KSI.

My K/D is good.

And no, KSI GH0ST is not me.

  • 01.01.2012 3:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Okay, almost all of that was irrelevant. I would say that 1.01+ is "good". Meaning that you are, more times than not, an asset to your team.

Someone having a negative K/D cannot be considered good. Sorry, that's just not how it works. It means they die more than they kill and in a FPS game - where the objective is to KILL the other team and to stay alive - that means a lot.

That much is not subjective. Someone can be "happy" being negative, I'm not saying they should lie awake at night worrying about it. I'm just saying that it's not good.

For anything above 1.01, I would say you would then have to factor in the level of competition that individual faces and then take it from there which would then make it subjective. When dealing with a negative K/D, however, it's not subjective.

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Posted by: Viper Skills

Someone having a negative K/D cannot be considered good. Sorry, that's just not how it works. It means they die more than they kill and in a FPS game - where the objective is to KILL the other team and to stay alive - that means a lot.

That much is not subjective. Someone can be "happy" being negative, I'm not saying they should lie awake at night worrying about it. I'm just saying that it's not good.

For anything above 1.01, I would say you would then have to factor in the level of competition that individual faces and then take it from there which would then make it subjective. When dealing with a negative K/D, however, it's not subjective.


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(Though yes, it's pretty much universal that if you're negative, you're bad.)

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Okay, almost all of that was irrelevant. I would say that 1.01+ is "good". Meaning that you are, more times than not, an asset to your team.

Someone having a negative K/D cannot be considered good. Sorry, that's just not how it works. It means they die more than they kill and in a FPS game - where the objective is to KILL the other team and to stay alive - that means a lot.

That much is not subjective. Someone can be "happy" being negative, I'm not saying they should lie awake at night worrying about it. I'm just saying that it's not good.

For anything above 1.01, I would say you would then have to factor in the level of competition that individual faces and then take it from there which would then make it subjective. When dealing with a negative K/D, however, it's not subjective.


Hypothetically speaking, would you consider a player with an 0.8 K/D good if he won every Objective and Invasion game he played, accomplishing all the objectives himself while his teammates did most of the killing?

  • 01.01.2012 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Hypothetically speaking, would you consider a player with an 0.8 K/D good if he won every Objective and Invasion game he played, accomplishing all the objectives himself while his teammates did most of the killing?


This is dwelling in more of a grey area but an interesting scenario nevertheless.

I would say it depends on how this person goes for the objective. If they beeline it to the objective, not heeding callouts, not putting shots into people, disregarding map control, then no, they're still terrible at the game.

If someone lacks individual skill but possesses a good knowledge of the game and how to work as a cohesive unit then that's OK.

It does also depend on their competition. If they can cap a flag against a bunch of guests that's one thing, but if they fold and do nothing but feed kills and act as dead weight when stacked up against actual competition, then no, they're still not "good".

There is a lot of stuff to cover in that topic and many more variables, but that's the syllabus of it all.

  • 01.01.2012 4:01 PM PDT


Posted by: the pib
Hypothetically speaking, would you consider a player with an 0.8 K/D good if he won every Objective and Invasion game he played, accomplishing all the objectives himself while his teammates did most of the killing?
That isn't relevant to the OP though. I think it is quite obvious that k/d is not the only factor in how good a player is, but the question was not 'what makes a good player?'. A negative k/d is a bad k/d.

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Posted by: Pendulate

Posted by: the pib
Hypothetically speaking, would you consider a player with an 0.8 K/D good if he won every Objective and Invasion game he played, accomplishing all the objectives himself while his teammates did most of the killing?
That isn't relevant to the OP though. I think it is quite obvious that k/d is not the only factor in how good a player is, but the question was not 'what makes a good player?'. A negative k/d is a bad k/d.

I know, I was just giving an example of how someone might be a good player even though he has a bad K/D. It's probably an extremely unlikely example though.

  • 01.01.2012 4:22 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

FT invaded! :o

Anything over 1.00 is helping your team more than it damages them , so I suppose that's the line between "Par" and "Bad"- Where you draw the line for "Good" is mostly up to you.

  • 01.01.2012 4:52 PM PDT


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Posted by: Zomechin
It's funny how much better FT was than WAY despite it having a similar member base.
bookshelf rejoined, don't get ahead of yourself


They both are pretty bad and pointless. HTR and btb.net are much better communities with equally good or better players.

  • 01.01.2012 5:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Posted by: Zomechin
It's funny how much better FT was than WAY despite it having a similar member base.
bookshelf rejoined, don't get ahead of yourself


They both are pretty bad and pointless. HTR and btb.net are much better communities with equally good or better players.


Weren't you kicked out of WAY? And are you even in FT?

  • 01.01.2012 5:08 PM PDT


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Posted by: Zomechin
It's funny how much better FT was than WAY despite it having a similar member base.
bookshelf rejoined, don't get ahead of yourself


They both are pretty bad and pointless. HTR and btb.net are much better communities with equally good or better players.


Weren't you kicked out of WAY? And are you even in FT?


Well you could have asked me first instead of assuming and no I left both groups forum tryhards and way I was like one of the first ft to join actually if you must know. Why people would waste their time joing a group full of elitist pricks is beyond me(WAY) ran by cosstalol. FT was great until it started to get dead and I was the only one posting mostly then retards started to join. HTR has plenty better players same with btb.net. Way died pretty much and I'm surprised FT is even still running. Anything more?

You have really been on my case would you be kind to step off a bit.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 5:13 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 5:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: AK FROST
You have really been on my case would you be kind to step off a bit.


Holy crap, I've replied twice to your posts in the past two months. If that's what you call "on your case" then you are WAY (heh?) too sensitive.

  • 01.01.2012 5:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: AK FROST
You have really been on my case would you be kind to step off a bit.


Holy crap, I've replied twice to your posts in the past two months. If that's what you call "on your case" then you are WAY (heh?) too sensitive.


Yes and both times you were kind of on my case a bit. Assuming when you don't even know the facts. Because I tell you to get off my case I'm sensitive wow, you sure are intelligent. :) So you were incorrect about your information anything else you need to know?

[Edited on 01.01.2012 5:19 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 5:16 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: AK FROST


They're not so much elitist as full of themselves, and even then it's like 10 of them that do it mostly.

  • 01.01.2012 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: AK FROST


...I asked you a question. The only other time I remember talking to you was when you were going on about how you were god's gift to Halo despite your lack of a 50 in Halo 3.

Stop being so insecure. I literally just asked a question. I've never seen you post in FT so I was wondering if you were even in it.

I'm being dead serious, if you think I'm "on your case" then you are being way too sensitive and/or insecure. I've never even heard your name prior to your little tantrum in WAY.

  • 01.01.2012 5:19 PM PDT