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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: moar 7 fish
Posted by: American Recoil
Do you understand that ANYONE and EVERYONE has the ability to be a Mythic member eventually?

Now, this is baseless conjecture since nobody understands the system, but I severely doubt this is the case. A good system would have a quota of users in each.

Unless you really mean to imply that people should've just registered earlier. Then I'm going to look at you and laugh at the fact that you're treating your mythic status like an old miser treats his money.
Did I imply you should have joined earlier? Maybe I implied the fact that some people need to realize a Mythic member probably joined at a much earlier date? But simply because I joined earlier than some makes me no better than others.

Now if I would have stated that last paragraph and I was a Heroic Member, you wouldn't have replied in the manner you did. You over analyze everything I said solely because of the fact that I'm Mythic. It honestly aggravates me that I can never take place in a tdiscussion about titles simply because my opinion is "biased" and I say everything based on the fact that "I feel I'm more important to the community" because my title is blue.


This is the kind of things i'm talking about. I think your right if you were Herioc he probably wouldn't have replied like that.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Just an idea off of the top of my head... but curious as to what people think.

Imagine a user option to "opt out" of titles. And when you do, you don't see the titles of any members. Everyone (except the web team and ninja) shows up as "member". But by selecting this option, the displayed title for the member (to those who are opting in and seeing/displaying titles) is something to indicate that they "aren't playing the game". For example, the term "Member" but the text of the title is in gold to show that they don't want their title shown and they can't see (and don't care about) yours.

To be honest, I'd think that very few people would do that. Even people who only post in the Flood care about their forum title.

The only reason people are complaining about titles now, is that there is literally nothing else we could be talking about.

  • 01.01.2012 7:06 PM PDT
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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

Meh, to titles and people who care about titles/don't care about titles. Meh to us all.

Meh to Mythics.

Meh to Legendaries.

Meh to Heroics.

Meh to Members, and all its iterations.

Meh to you.

Meh to me.

Also, I'd probably use Recon's suggested feature were it implemented. If Bungie let me.

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Posted by: moar 7 fish
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: moar 7 fish
Posted by: American Recoil
Do you understand that ANYONE and EVERYONE has the ability to be a Mythic member eventually?

Now, this is baseless conjecture since nobody understands the system, but I severely doubt this is the case. A good system would have a quota of users in each.

Unless you really mean to imply that people should've just registered earlier. Then I'm going to look at you and laugh at the fact that you're treating your mythic status like an old miser treats his money.
Did I imply you should have joined earlier? Maybe I implied the fact that some people need to realize a Mythic member probably joined at a much earlier date? But simply because I joined earlier than some makes me no better than others.

Now if I would have stated that last paragraph and I was a Heroic Member, you wouldn't have replied in the manner you did. You over analyze everything I said solely because of the fact that I'm Mythic. It honestly aggravates me that I can never take place in a tdiscussion about titles simply because my opinion is "biased" and I say everything based on the fact that "I feel I'm more important to the community" because my title is blue.

Yes, you did. Your exact words: It is your fault if you didn't join as early as others. Now, this has to go with my assumption from earlier that not everyone can be mythic. Without that, you'd be right. One would be mythic now if it were guaranteed after a few years of staying on the mods' good side and remaining active. But I'm giving Bungie's web team some faith in assuming that not everybody gets a trophy.

Your last paragraph has an improbable statement and bases further thoughts on this improbable statement.

So, in short: Either of us could be right, but I strongly doubt it's you. And even if that isn't the case? Yes, you are biased and you tipped that hand in the first paragraph. You stated that you put so much work into your account that it would have a significant toll on you should titles be axed.

You then proceed to say that some are extremely jealous of mythics and you were at one time. The implication here is that you believe that being mythic is some kind of an achievement, an honorable "knighting" of sorts in forum life. Is that directly saying that mythics are more important to the community? Well, no, but it does demonstrate how important being a mythic member appears to you, as well as the others that supposedly think just like you.

And lastly, you don't flaunt your title? Not in an obvious fashion, but the idea of people not seeing your blue bar scares the crap out of you (see first paragraph in your post). That's like a woman saying she's not trying to show off her tits, then proceeding to wear low cut shirts and have strong reservations against covering up.

And in the future, please don't PM me to rush a reply. If the subject matter is important to me, I'll be back. If it isn't, I probably have nothing more to say anyway.

Edit: and to answer the other guy riding your jock on the subject: does it really matter the rank? If the idea of people not paying attention to it bothers you that much, then you're biased. I don't care if your title reads "village idiot". If you want it seen, then you're biased.


Okay then. I see your point, but you could have said that in a sort of different way. I can agree with you in a different way, but you guys don't have to argue. The point of my post was to say my opinion, and ask for yours.

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I they were not so hard to obtain and so easy to lose less people would care.

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Posted by: moar 7 fish
Yes, you did. Your exact words: It is your fault if you didn't join as early as others. Now, this has to go with my assumption from earlier that not everyone can be mythic. Without that, you'd be right. One would be mythic now if it were guaranteed after a few years of staying on the mods' good side and remaining active. But I'm giving Bungie's web team some faith in assuming that not everybody gets a trophy.
If you require an implication, if there had to be one, I would have implied that it should be common sense amoungst the community that, typically, two members of equal activity and one joining two years before the other, the one joining earlier is likely to have higher title. Simply because he or she joined earlier. Hard to understand?

So, in short: Either of us could be right, but I strongly doubt it's you. And even if that isn't the case? Yes, you are biased and you tipped that hand in the first paragraph. You stated that you put so much work into your account that it would have a significant toll on you should titles be axed. Again, a biased and false assumption. By saying "I have put quite a bit of 'work' into my account." I mean I have stuck with one account and posted frequently in public forums and privates groups for the 5 years I have been here. Did I ever say I put a lot of work into my "title"? Nope. Titles weren't even around back in 2006 so how could I have been putting a lot of work towards a title? I've lost my title before on several occasions and, over time, it simply goes back up. It isn't a life altering occurrence if I were to lose title. Like i said, it has happened several times.

You then proceed to say that some are extremely jealous of mythics and you were at one time. The implication here is that you believe that being mythic is some kind of an achievement, an honorable "knighting" of sorts in forum life. Is that directly saying that mythics are more important to the community? Well, no, but it does demonstrate how important being a mythic member appears to you, as well as the others that supposedly think just like you. Sure, I enjoy a blue title. I don't have the title to claim some type of dominance. I know I am nothing more than a member like every one else. Being a Mythic Member is simply showing I've been active and abided by the rules for a good length of time, that is why the titles were created, correct? Sure I was jealous, but I don't expect everyone to be jealous like I was. I may enjoy being Mythic more than others, I'm sure some enjoy ten times more than I do.

What I've noticed is that every aspect of your arguments are based of your "implications". Hmm, anyways. Let's continue.

And lastly, you don't flaunt your title? Not in an obvious fashion, but the idea of people not seeing your blue bar scares the crap out of you (see first paragraph in your post). That's like a woman saying she's not trying to show off her tits, then proceeding to wear low cut shirts and have strong reservations against covering up.My posting style would not alter in anyway based upon a title, if you are implying I post the way I do because of my blue bar. I could care less about how people's views of me as a Mythic, Heroic, or whatever he'll rank I am. It just doesn't matter. This argument doesn't even deserve my thoughts unless you an specifically show me how I'm terrified of people not seeing my title. Haha.

And in the future, please don't PM me to rush a reply. If the subject matter is important to me, I'll be back. If it isn't, I probably have nothing more to say anyway.Haha, an immature attempt to belittle and embarrass me? Sheesh.

Apologies for being a bit hasty on continuing our conversation. You like to make a lot of implications based on your own biased opinion. Maybe I should purposely get banned, lose my title, and then try having this conversation again. Because if I wasn't Mythic, then I would post differently and everything I said would be unbiased, correct?

We get it, you don't Iike ranks. You are one of many. I am one of many who appreciates the little bit of flair Bungie threw to us. Should it be removed? I wouldn't mind, if it ended all the false accusations and everyone with a blue or light grey bar from being considered "brown noses", "jerks", and "know-it-alls".

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Maybe, users should just stop making a big deal out of the titles, and just have fun with them. Also I don't see a problem with you sending that user a pm because you are just trying to carry on the conversation, maybe he is just taking it a little to serious.
Anyways, back to the titles it's not all the mythics, it's just most of them.

  • 01.01.2012 8:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: machinimagamesMG
Maybe, users should just stop making a big deal out of the titles, and just have fun with them. Also I don't see a problem with you sending that user a pm because you are just trying to carry on the conversation, maybe he is just taking it a little to serious.
Anyways, back to the titles it's not all the mythics, it's just most of them.
That's the thing, it seems like its impossible for everyone to enjoy them. There are too many stubborn people.

  • 01.01.2012 8:04 PM PDT

I love the idea of the title system. I think they're superb. However, the fact that elitism exists over the -blam!- titles is retarded. The real morons are the ones who put stock in them. And don't even say "there's no elitism, the only ones that think that are jealous/ignorant/not Mythic/etc."
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: machinimagamesMG
Maybe, users should just stop making a big deal out of the titles, and just have fun with them. Also I don't see a problem with you sending that user a pm because you are just trying to carry on the conversation, maybe he is just taking it a little to serious.
Anyways, back to the titles it's not all the mythics, it's just most of them.
That's the thing, it seems like its impossible for everyone to enjoy them. There are too many stubborn people.

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Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: machinimagamesMG
Maybe, users should just stop making a big deal out of the titles, and just have fun with them. Also I don't see a problemcarry on the conversation, maybe he is just taking it a little to serious.
Anyways, back to the titles it's not all the mythics, it's just with you sending that user a pm because you are just trying to most of them.
That's the thing, it seems like its impossible for everyone to enjoy them. There are too many stubborn people.

Thank, you. This is the point I was trying to prove the whole time. Even some Legendary members think they are better than user just because of there title. The titles are suppose to be for fun not to show you who is better than who. No I can see if a member that was here for a year than a member who just joined a week ago. I also think if a member has been here for a full complete year (active) then he most likely knows the same amount as the rest of us.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 8:53 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 8:12 PM PDT

I'm better then everyone except tibby.

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Do you have a fanclub? Nope.
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I'm better then everyone except tibby.

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Posted by: ctjl96
Do you have a fanclub? Nope.
Posted by: Struvee
I'm better then everyone except tibby.
Hence the exception.

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Posted by: ctjl96
I love the idea of the title system. I think they're superb. However, the fact that elitism exists over the -blam!- titles is retarded. The real morons are the ones who put stock in them. And don't even say "there's no elitism, the only ones that think that are jealous/ignorant/not Mythic/etc."
Posted by: American Recoil
Posted by: machinimagamesMG
Maybe, users should just stop making a big deal out of the titles, and just have fun with them. Also I don't see a problem with you sending that user a pm because you are just trying to carry on the conversation, maybe he is just taking it a little to serious.
Anyways, back to the titles it's not all the mythics, it's just most of them.
That's the thing, it seems like its impossible for everyone to enjoy them. There are too many stubborn people.

What's the point of being jealous of any user with a higher title for. Everyone has a chance to get there title high, it just takes time.

  • 01.01.2012 8:57 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

People can get too carried away over titles. It's seen from time to time on these forums, and how people can get far to "elitist" over user titles. I mean...come on, people using the Mythic group as an example, might as well use any group which requires approval to join. Elitism on this site is not solely involved in forum titles, but a heck of a lot more.

Again, people need to calm their tits with regards to these issues. I recommend rubbing them in an anticlockwise direction, while using Aloe Vera or a calmative such as doxylamine.

  • 01.01.2012 9:34 PM PDT

Say this, and record it. Say it in your Australian pharmacist voice, and post it.
Posted by: Zealot Tony
Again, people need to calm their tits with regards to these issues. I recommend rubbing them in an anticlockwise direction, while using Aloe Vera or a calmative such as doxylamine.


[Edited on 01.01.2012 9:36 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 9:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Zealot Tony
I recommend rubbing them in an anticlockwise direction, while using Aloe Vera or a calmative such as doxylamine.
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Did you just say "anticlockwise"? I agree though, people put far too much value into titles.

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Talk to the Soul | ~B.B. | Know Your Duardo |  | Hero | ISFJ | 77135 | 94371

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

Titles are eye candy. Nothing more. It is something that people work towards though, and in my opinion it has led to less rule-breaking (if you can believe that). What's amusing is seeing a lot of users in this thread claiming they're worthless when I remember them trying so hard to gain a title. Sure, it may be worthless to you now, but when you were newer, it made you more active and perhaps it made you less likely to break a rule.

Personally, I'd prefer if we kept the system (or a similar system implemented), but instead of prefixes we're allowed to add in our own custom title. To gain this right of custom title, you must be here for an X number of days/years.

  • 01.01.2012 9:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Personally, I'd prefer if we kept the system (or a similar system implemented), but instead of prefixes we're allowed to add in our own custom title. To gain this right of custom title, you must be here for an X number of days/years.
Another idea proposed about titles that I like. This forum is quite good, methinks I'll hang around a bit longer (as if I was going anywhere).

[Edited on 01.01.2012 9:46 PM PST]

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What? Got something against Yetis?


Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: Duardo
Personally, I'd prefer if we kept the system (or a similar system implemented), but instead of prefixes we're allowed to add in our own custom title. To gain this right of custom title, you must be here for an X number of days/years.
Another idea proposed about titles that I like. This forum is quite good, methinks I'll hang around a bit longer (as if I was going anywhere).

I actually don't think that'd work. Unless the quota is like 5+ years, you know the wanna-be trolls in the Flood would try to take advantage of it by making their title something controversial and stupid.

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Posted by: The Yeti

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: Duardo
Personally, I'd prefer if we kept the system (or a similar system implemented), but instead of prefixes we're allowed to add in our own custom title. To gain this right of custom title, you must be here for an X number of days/years.
Another idea proposed about titles that I like. This forum is quite good, methinks I'll hang around a bit longer (as if I was going anywhere).

I actually don't think that'd work. Unless the quota is like 5+ years, you know the wanna-be trolls in the Flood would try to take advantage of it by making their title something controversial and stupid.
I know Bungie tries to not be like other forums, but other forums DO have the option for users to create their own title after hitting some type of quota. I doubt they have as many...teenagers...as these forums do. Perhaps you could select from a certain number of predefined titles then. Sounds lame though.

  • 01.01.2012 10:09 PM PDT
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Do you know about time travel?

Or we could implement some sort of filter to prevent teenagers from being... teenagers.

Posted by: Duardo

Posted by: The Yeti

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: Duardo
Personally, I'd prefer if we kept the system (or a similar system implemented), but instead of prefixes we're allowed to add in our own custom title. To gain this right of custom title, you must be here for an X number of days/years.
Another idea proposed about titles that I like. This forum is quite good, methinks I'll hang around a bit longer (as if I was going anywhere).

I actually don't think that'd work. Unless the quota is like 5+ years, you know the wanna-be trolls in the Flood would try to take advantage of it by making their title something controversial and stupid.
I know Bungie tries to not be like other forums, but other forums DO have the option for users to create their own title after hitting some type of quota. I doubt they have as many...teenagers...as these forums do. Perhaps you could select from a certain number of predefined titles then. Sounds lame though.

  • 01.01.2012 10:10 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

I enjoy the title system its a visual.. if not always 100 percent accurate, gauge of how long people have been members.

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