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Subject: Keep duel wielding. Just take away the smg.
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Duel wielding was the feature that sold Halo 2. Plain and simple. Even though it was unbalanced, it would be idiotic to remove this feature in Halo 3. If that happens, then every game will be like a MLG game. We all know that we don't want that.

The only gun that made the game unbalanced was the SMG. With half the power, sound, and feel of the AR, it feel like a popcorn shooter. However, whenever it was duel wielded, combined with Halo 2's auto-aim, it became a noob friendly weapon of mass destruction. The magnum, plasma rifle, and PP (especially the PP) made it way too easy to kill someone with minimal effort. Although the 1.1 update toned down the "spray and pray" gameplay of Halo 2, it still hasn't totally gotten it under control.

My solution? Remove SMG completely. If the AR is really coming back, then you won't need it. That leaves the magnum, PP, PR, and needler.

Also, make the single wielded magnum a 6 shot kill. If you duel wield, then it becomes twice as powerful. Get it? It's like having the 3sk back. And guess what, the PP and the magnum was a skillful combo. If you couldn't land a headshot then you were dead.

Also, turn the BR into 3sk and take down or completely remove the auto-aim. In Halo 2, this weapon is way too easy to use in close range combat. Plus, if it's a 3sk, then the n-word combo won't be so powerful. It's basically 2 shots versus 3.

  • 05.11.2006 10:39 AM PDT
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Actually I think the fact that is was Halo 2 sold Halo 2 ...

  • 05.11.2006 10:39 AM PDT

Bye-Bye smg, Hello AR!!!!!!

  • 05.11.2006 10:41 AM PDT
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DONT REMOVE SMG!! i love that weapon... Remove the Sword instead. No skill, 1 hit kill...

  • 05.11.2006 10:43 AM PDT
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seriously, just keep everything just change all the wepons so they balance each other with the conventional strengths and weaknesses.

  • 05.11.2006 10:46 AM PDT
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No way, the SMG rocks! Keep it.

  • 05.11.2006 10:47 AM PDT

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What is it with these forums and the word "Skill"?

I'd like to see the SMG and the AR. They both have their uniqueness. One is light, crappy, innacurate and dual-wields. The other is pretty accurate, heavy, and powerful. I hope they don't take away any weapons, I love them all.

  • 05.11.2006 10:49 AM PDT

Posted by: munkeypants

Back in my day we didn't have no fancy lasers, and the hogs were indestructible!

Right yea how about no to removing the SMG and yes to placing all weapons from the Halo universe in Halo 3, this would make most sense as militaries use more than one type of rifle and more than one type of pistol + I love the SMG, personally I think it looks cool, sort of an advanced P90... any takers on my point though?

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just bring back every gun which gives you more options im tired of hearing people complain about all the weapons, it was all balanced and if you read on halo 2 before it came out the smg actually has more power than the MA5B Assualt Rifle

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Posted by: One One Seven
Actually I think the fact that is was Halo 2 sold Halo 2 ...


I'd say Halo 1 sold Halo 2.

I personally don't like duel weilding. It wasn't excatly a new concept as some of you want to believe. Plus, it may have worked well for the campaign, but I think it lost something using it in multiplayer. Personally I'd like to see two sets of weapons. One for campaign and one for MP. What works against little grunts doesn't always work well, or is enjoyable in MP.

  • 05.11.2006 10:53 AM PDT
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Halo 1 sold 7 million copies of Halo 2. Thank you very much.

Remove dual weilding entirely, promotes unbalanced gameplay and forces weakening of single handed weapons. Restore the plasma rifle and plasma pistol to there former glory. As for the needler, please actually try and make it work this time(you had it at E3 where it shot needles as fast as bullets).

Oh yah and Halo 1 > Halo2, but lets hope for Halo 3 > Halo 1

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  • 05.11.2006 11:03 AM PDT

Posted by: munkeypants

Back in my day we didn't have no fancy lasers, and the hogs were indestructible!

Right to do that you must maintain a lock on the target it's sort of an automatic homing ability, the crosshair must go red and you must keep it on them for around a second then they home in as fast as bullets, and I don't care what anyone says it works everytime for me.

Do not take away the SMG otherwise you will be removing the only hit-scan weapon in the game. For those of you who don't know hit scan is where when you pull the trigger and fire the shots hit instantly, no other weapon other than the pistol has this effect.

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  • 05.11.2006 11:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Black Hawk Up
Right yea how about no to removing the SMG and yes to placing all weapons from the Halo universe in Halo 3, this would make most sense as militaries use more than one type of rifle and more than one type of pistol + I love the SMG, personally I think it looks cool, sort of an advanced P90... any takers on my point though?
P-90 would be nice. Or how about a SMG with a scope?

  • 05.11.2006 11:09 AM PDT

Posted by: munkeypants

Back in my day we didn't have no fancy lasers, and the hogs were indestructible!

^^^ ...right you see this man here... he knows... SMG with reflex scope = sorted

  • 05.11.2006 11:11 AM PDT
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The whining about balance reeks of MMO. Every weapon takes SOME degree of prowess, and its not as if each doesn't have a drawback.

  • 05.11.2006 11:20 AM PDT

Posted by: munkeypants

Back in my day we didn't have no fancy lasers, and the hogs were indestructible!

Posted by: Black Hawk Up
^^^ ...right you see this man here... he knows...

  • 05.11.2006 11:25 AM PDT

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What's everyone talking about? WalMart and Gamestop sold Halo 2!

Anyway, I don't think they should remove the SMG.. It's meh precious. Sometimes.

  • 05.11.2006 11:26 AM PDT