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Subject: Is Reach the most casual of all Halos?

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I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

if you have to wait for the person, you will also get shot at. If you look away to kill another person, you will get shot at by the amor locker.

see this supports my idea of it as a team disrupter and a team mechanic inhancer again read my comments double edged.

this also implies that the armor locker always has freinds this statement is infact very wrong

  • 01.02.2012 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: shadow 2648
i never said i didn't want people useing rockets?


Posted by: shadow 2648
It's design is to solve a problem that has plagued halo since halo 1. Heavy Weapon over use.

  • 01.02.2012 3:02 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

if it was just the 2 of us hear i could systomatically shoot down ever argument you come up with and vi saversa you can counter argument me.

Please learn more about this before you discuss it.

arguing armor lock is like science and religion discussion it goes no where

if i had the time and was only arguing you i would infact show you the pros and cons of every possible incounter in great detail and how to defend against each one sadly im fighting half this thread and no longer have the time or energy to fight 5 arguments all at different points of a large discussion

[Edited on 01.02.2012 3:05 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 3:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

Shadow, you're not understanding this. We know armor lock and we know what each and every armor ability does. We've analyzed this since the release of the game. There is literally nothing you could tell us about Halo that we don't already know.

The fact there is an ounce of logic behind something does not make it good.

  • 01.02.2012 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: shadow 2648
An armor locker has freinds this statement is infact very wrong


You are right. people who use armor lock are in mental hospitals and arent aloud to contact other human beings

  • 01.02.2012 3:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: shadow 2648
An armor locker has freinds this statement is infact very wrong


You are right. people who use armor lock are in mental hospitals and arent alloewd to contact other human beings

I loled.

  • 01.02.2012 3:10 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
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I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

now you have reduced to atacking the way i form sentences under a huge number of replies i have stacing up thats just sad

my intended meaning is that an armor lock user does not always have a team mate avalible in a mid to short range combat scenario

  • 01.02.2012 3:12 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: shadow 2648
i never said i didn't want people useing rockets?


Posted by: shadow 2648
It's design is to solve a problem that has plagued halo since halo 1. Heavy Weapon over use.

  • 01.02.2012 3:14 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Shadow, you're not understanding this. We know armor lock and we know what each and every armor ability does. We've analyzed this since the release of the game. There is literally nothing you could tell us about Halo that we don't already know.

The fact there is an ounce of logic behind something does not make it good.


fine then how about we do it this way

armor lock is a counter and has many counters against it. all of which were intentional. this is not disputed. theres logic it operates decently we'll move on


you tell me how from a competative/normal mechanic standpoint that it breacks halo. and i will come back with a counter argument

  • 01.02.2012 3:14 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: shadow 2648
armor lock is a counter and has many counters against it. all of which were intentional. this is not disputed. theres logic it operates decently we'll move on


I know it was designed to be a certain way. That is not the issue here. The issue is whether or not that's a good thing and beneficial to the gameplay that Halo provides.

Thus far, you have not been able to see things the way we do because of the tiny amount of logic behind the implementation of armor lock. We know what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. But there is overwhelming logic stacked against such a mechanic.

  • 01.02.2012 3:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: shadow 2648
armor lock is a counter and has many counters against it.

Hold on a second. Prior to the TU, what counters did AL have? Waiting is not a counter.

  • 01.02.2012 3:20 PM PDT

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I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

ok so armor lock gives you an emergency defence a return from the grave skill if you will
this is what most people hate about it

thats a fair thing to say? thats the main issue generally?

well i don't see how that ruins anything. look at the die hard perk. Look at overshields? its a temporar advantage giver. things simlar to armor lock ave been used in shooters for years. why do you think it disrups play so horribly?

  • 01.02.2012 3:21 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Or to add wut would you say to armor lock as a pick up. something you have to earn not just a thing you can have?

( apoologieses to ninjas for being slightly off the OP but i still think this applies )

[Edited on 01.02.2012 3:24 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 3:23 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: shadow 2648
ok so armor lock gives you an emergency defence a return from the grave skill if you will
this is what most people hate about it

thats a fair thing to say? thats the main issue generally?

well i don't see how that ruins anything. look at the die hard perk. Look at overshields? its a temporar advantage giver. things simlar to armor lock ave been used in shooters for years. why do you think it disrups play so horribly?


Overshields are placed on the map and are to be fought for and earned. To be timed. I would have a completely different look on armor lock if it was placed on the map and not an ability to spawn with.

Also, if you don't see how a "I messed up and need a second chance" button is a problem then there really is nothing to discuss.

  • 01.02.2012 3:23 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Overshields are placed on the map and are to be fought for and earned. To be timed. I would have a completely different look on armor lock if it was placed on the map and not an ability to spawn with.

Also, if you don't see how a "I messed up and need a second chance" button is a problem then there really is nothing to discuss.


^^ there was a bit of saracasm in that grave return joke.


So how about we settle on the fact that armor locks main flaw is that it is an inherent to the player skill?. rather than something you earn

[Edited on 01.02.2012 3:26 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 3:25 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: RC Clone
You can be casual and play things besides infection.

You can be casual and use a mic.

You can be casual and play in parties.

You can be casual and post on Halo forums.

Combining your criteria doesn't make them more right. It makes them more wrong. I have already stated multiple times that everything you listed in your criteria is wrong, but you're too dense to understand me.
Then stop wasting my time and yours and go rate someones armor.

[Edited on 01.02.2012 3:27 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 3:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: RC Clone
You can be casual and play things besides infection.

You can be casual and use a mic.

You can be casual and play in parties.

You can be casual and post on Halo forums.

Combining your criteria doesn't make them more right. It makes them more wrong. I have already stated multiple times that everything you listed in your criteria is wrong, but you're too dense to understand me.
Then stop wasting my time and yours and go rate someones armor.

So rather than admit you are wrong you tell me to go away. Lol

You are retarded.

  • 01.02.2012 3:29 PM PDT

Founder of Team Reclaimer where we specialize in Big Team Battle and Invasion games. We are all about Communication, Dedication and Fun.

AL does not belong in halo PERIOD. idc if it was even a pickup, it slows the game down. Dont bother using the "everyone has access to it so it's balanced" argument.

  • 01.02.2012 3:32 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

AL does not belong in halo PERIOD. idc if it was even a pickup, it slows the game down. Dont bother using the "everyone has access to it so it's balanced" argument.

thats right just steamroll past the 4 pages of decent aruments and inject an opinion...

I love the reach forum.

  • 01.02.2012 3:35 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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where a > b = d > c

Posted by: shadow 2648
So how about we settle on the fact that armor locks main flaw is that it is an inherent to the player skill?. rather than something you earn

Your sentence doesn't really make sense, but I get what you mean.

Imo, the fact you spawn with AAs is the biggest issue with them. It disrupts the classic balance of Halo: everyone starting on equal ground (asymmetrical maps aside). Players no longer have to compete for abilities or even try to stay alive to maximise their usage. No longer can you make an educated guess about what your opponent might have picked up based on the game clock and map position.

It gets even worse since entire teams can use the same AA, which pretty much turns gameplay into a degenerative mess. Playing a team of camo users or armour lockers is just stupid.

  • 01.02.2012 3:36 PM PDT
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PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE.

Yes. It is.

AL. Bloom. Jetpacks. Rank based on playtime rather than skill.

Need I say more?

  • 01.02.2012 3:39 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

Your sentence doesn't really make sense, but I get what you mean.

Imo, the fact you spawn with AAs is the biggest issue with them. It disrupts the classic balance of Halo: everyone starting on equal ground (asymmetrical maps aside). Players no longer have to compete for abilities or even try to stay alive to maximise their usage. No longer can you make an educated guess about what your opponent might have picked up based on the game clock and map position.

It gets even worse since entire teams can use the same AA, which pretty much turns gameplay into a degenerative mess. Playing a team of camo users or armour lockers is just stupid.


I am going to give you an internet +5 for the fact that i finally have a common piece of groud to stand on with the people that think armor lock needs to go...

Lets just make it a pick up / argument

  • 01.02.2012 3:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: shadow 2648
So how about we settle on the fact that armor locks main flaw is that it is an inherent to the player skill?. rather than something you earn

Your sentence doesn't really make sense, but I get what you mean.

Imo, the fact you spawn with AAs is the biggest issue with them. It disrupts the classic balance of Halo: everyone starting on equal ground (asymmetrical maps aside). Players no longer have to compete for abilities or even try to stay alive to maximise their usage. No longer can you make an educated guess about what your opponent might have picked up based on the game clock and map position.

It gets even worse since entire teams can use the same AA, which pretty much turns gameplay into a degenerative mess. Playing a team of camo users or armour lockers is just stupid.

  • 01.02.2012 3:40 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: RC Clone
You can be casual and play things besides infection.

You can be casual and use a mic.

You can be casual and play in parties.

You can be casual and post on Halo forums.

Combining your criteria doesn't make them more right. It makes them more wrong. I have already stated multiple times that everything you listed in your criteria is wrong, but you're too dense to understand me.
Then stop wasting my time and yours and go rate someones armor.

So rather than admit you are wrong you tell me to go away. Lol

You are retarded.
Rather than accept that my opinion is different than yours and you are unable to convince me so proceed to stay for 14 pages, and this is the standard for mental ability?

  • 01.02.2012 3:51 PM PDT