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Subject: Is Reach the most casual of all Halos?
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They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.

That is not the definition of a casual player and you are not proving your point.

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Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


That's not what a casual player is, dumbass. You just created this twisted definition to try to make it so that nobody but you would fit it, and then you would be able to skew the datum however you wanted.

You even screwed up the skewing part, because it still goes against you.

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Posted by: B Rye
Why does OP neglect the fact that even his own datum goes against his hypothesis?
That is not conclusive, I was playing with more players of equal skill in Reach as it was a brand new game as compared to Halo 3 that was filled with vastly more experienced in that game at that point.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq
So if I pick out a couple of those and start going thruogh stats and asking questions you believe thse guys are going to meet most of the criteria set forth?

No. Because your criteria is ridiculous. The only definition of casual is play for fun. All the people listed play because they enjoy the game. Your list is just a filter to keep anyone who would respond to this thread from using their own stats to counter you using your stats.



Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.

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Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


None of that makes someone a non casual player....

A casual is just someone that plays for a fun that doesnt involve being better. To be a casual is just playing and not caring how you do, or what the outcome is, so long as fun is had.

All of them, sanuel (pre tryhard) are said type of player.

Your "critera" is both unfounded, and restricts the population down to saying that there are maybe a handful of casuals to ever play halo.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


That's not what a casual player is, dumbass. You just created this twisted definition to try to make it so that nobody but you would fit it, and then you would be able to skew the datum however you wanted.

You even screwed up the skewing part, because it still goes against you.
Which part did I make up?

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Neither the OP or others can prove whether Reach is a casual game or not, there is a lack of evidence, failure to agree upon definition and the fact that the evidence is being interpreted differently.


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Why does OP neglect the fact that even his own datum goes against his hypothesis?
That is not conclusive, I was playing with more players of equal skill in Reach as it was a brand new game as compared to Halo 3 that was filled with vastly more experienced in that game at that point.

So now you're ignoring your own stats?

Kay this thread is now going full retard.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq
Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.

This post either compels me to laugh until I cry or blow my brains out with a shotgun just so I am no longer living on the same planet as Plunderfuq.

I can't decide which.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


None of that makes someone a non casual player....

A casual is just someone that plays for a fun that doesnt involve being better. To be a casual is just playing and not caring how you do, or what the outcome is, so long as fun is had.

All of them, sanuel (pre tryhard) are said type of player.

Your "critera" is both unfounded, and restricts the population down to saying that there are maybe a handful of casuals to ever play halo.
Have you read the qualifications? Cause if you did, that is specificly addresed within the body of the post under what makes a casual a casual, read it again and come back and tell me that I did not say that a casual plays for "fun".

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Kay this thread is now going full retard.

All attendants abandon thread now. OP's brain is made of a brick wall.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq
Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.

This post either compels me to laugh until I cry or blow my brains out with a shotgun just so I am no longer living on the same planet as Plunderfuq.

I can't decide which.
Provide one person on that list that you believe is the most casual and I will vet him myself.

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You criteria is wrong. There are casuals in every playlist, except Arena.

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Posted by: B Rye
Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)

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Posted by: RC Clone
You criteria is wrong. There are casuals in every playlist, except Arena.
That would be covered by no ranked play in Reach, wanna try again?

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: B Rye
Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)


See, there's your problem. You think that all it takes is for one single entry to support you, and you label it as "conclusive".

And you couldn't even do that. Your single datum goes against your argument, if anything.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


None of that makes someone a non casual player....

A casual is just someone that plays for a fun that doesnt involve being better. To be a casual is just playing and not caring how you do, or what the outcome is, so long as fun is had.

All of them, sanuel (pre tryhard) are said type of player.

Your "critera" is both unfounded, and restricts the population down to saying that there are maybe a handful of casuals to ever play halo.
Have you read the qualifications? Cause if you did, that is specificly addresed within the body of the post under what makes a casual a casual, read it again and come back and tell me that I did not say that a casual plays for "fun".


Your "qualifications" have no true meaning. They are skewed and I will tell you why.

If we went by the qualification in the OP, then there would only be a handful of casual gamers in the world.

You cant truly believe that the majority of players are competitive can you?

As I said a casual doenst have to be retarded, they simply play for other reasons than competitive gamers. They can be every bit as good as competitive players, yet they dont have to be labeled as such.

All the players I linked are casual, thats a fact. They themselves say they are not a competitive gamer, and they play for reasons other than being better than someone else.

Thus balancing the population and making the curve show there are far more casual gamers than competitive ones.

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Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)


See, there's your problem. You think that all it takes is for one single entry to support you, and you label it as "conclusive".

And you couldn't even do that. Your single datum goes against your argument, if anything.
K/D is the single best stat for determining individual performance, W/L depends on three other people, how does the W/L disqualify the individual barometer?

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: B Rye

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: B Rye
Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)


See, there's your problem. You think that all it takes is for one single entry to support you, and you label it as "conclusive".

And you couldn't even do that. Your single datum goes against your argument, if anything.
K/D is the single best stat for determining individual performance, W/L depends on three other people, how does the W/L disqualify the individual barometer?


Having a sub par k/d means nothing if the W/L is high.

This is a team game, and thus k/d is all but irrelevant when talking about anyone good.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: meagsIZbeast
They meet the only criteria that matters.....

They are casual players.
Im going to take it they play alot of living dead, have not played through the transition from Halo 3 to Reach, have no idea what callouts are and weapon spawn times are, have no care for mechanics arguments...........Wait a minute, I am familiar with some of those guys and can say it is my belief that would be completely wrong, and I didnt need to start checking, please dont waste my time with unvetted submissions.


None of that makes someone a non casual player....

A casual is just someone that plays for a fun that doesnt involve being better. To be a casual is just playing and not caring how you do, or what the outcome is, so long as fun is had.

All of them, sanuel (pre tryhard) are said type of player.

Your "critera" is both unfounded, and restricts the population down to saying that there are maybe a handful of casuals to ever play halo.
Have you read the qualifications? Cause if you did, that is specificly addresed within the body of the post under what makes a casual a casual, read it again and come back and tell me that I did not say that a casual plays for "fun".


Your "qualifications" have no true meaning. They are skewed and I will tell you why.

If we went by the qualification in the OP, then there would only be a handful of casual gamers in the world.

You cant truly believe that the majority of players are competitive can you?

As I said a casual doenst have to be retarded, they simply play for other reasons than competitive gamers. They can be every bit as good as competitive players, yet they dont have to be labeled as such.

All the players I linked are casual, thats a fact. They themselves say they are not a competitive gamer, and they play for reasons other than being better than someone else.

Thus balancing the population and making the curve show there are far more casual gamers than competitive ones.
Lets try it this way, start with one qualification, tell why you think its wrong. and what would be a better qualification in its place.

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

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You criteria is wrong. There are casuals in every playlist, except Arena.
That would be covered by no ranked play in Reach, wanna try again?

Sure.

There are casuals in every god damned playlists you retard.

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Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)


See, there's your problem. You think that all it takes is for one single entry to support you, and you label it as "conclusive".

And you couldn't even do that. Your single datum goes against your argument, if anything.
K/D is the single best stat for determining individual performance, W/L depends on three other people, how does the W/L disqualify the individual barometer?


Having a sub par k/d means nothing if the W/L is high.

This is a team game, and thus k/d is all but irrelevant when talking about anyone good.
Casuals dont play in teams, they are matched with other randoms, playing in a team would disqualify someone in my book, should I add that to the list?

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Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: B Rye

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: B Rye
Dear God,

Please don't let the OP truly be this retarded. I don't think I would be able to handle it.

Sincerely,
B Rye
Speaking to God is not going to provide a single canidate that supports your claim, but good luck anyways =)


See, there's your problem. You think that all it takes is for one single entry to support you, and you label it as "conclusive".

And you couldn't even do that. Your single datum goes against your argument, if anything.
K/D is the single best stat for determining individual performance, W/L depends on three other people, how does the W/L disqualify the individual barometer?


That...isn't relevant to my post you quoted.

  • 01.02.2012 12:22 AM PDT