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Shield and Sword. Two items used in combat together.

And:
http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=15687

  • 05.11.2006 12:29 PM PDT
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Double post because I'm wondering how many times I'm going to have to post that link before people just shut up...

  • 05.11.2006 12:29 PM PDT

Why are you afraid?
You will die for it is your destiny!
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when i 1st heard it i thought it said soul but when i heard it again i heard sword

  • 05.11.2006 12:31 PM PDT
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Thank you, Gunshark, for putting into better language what I was fumbling over!
Good points, I'd forgotten that Cortana was essentially a clone from Hasley's brain, so the source argument has a little more reason behind it now.

  • 05.11.2006 12:31 PM PDT
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"Sure. I can't move a rock with my mind, but, boy, can I make that rock think it's been moved."
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The idea that it was both sword and source was good, everyone, but I do think that link clears it up. I tend to trust halo.bungie.org, and Marty.

However, I admit they denied that Halo 3 was their next project for some time...

  • 05.11.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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Once again, "sword" does not have any feasible credibility in the contextual basis of Cortana or Dr. Halsey.

So can anyone think of a theory yet?

  • 05.11.2006 12:33 PM PDT
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I theorize that she said sword.

Because the god damn Audio director said so.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:34 PM PDT
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Bungie say a lot of things. As I said, they won't always admit to everything, particually if it plays a major role in the game.

  • 05.11.2006 12:36 PM PDT

Why are you afraid?
You will die for it is your destiny!
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i just heard it again (and i did hear source this time) and aftr reading some posts it was mainly becuz of Hasley tht the chief is in this position and that he is the last one

  • 05.11.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Abriel
I theorize that she said sword.

Because the god damn Audio director said so.


While Abriel made the point much more wittily than I could have hope to, I feel obligated to point out that Cortana is, metaphorically speaking, the Chief's sword. She is a weapon for him on a front he has little knowledge of, and she serves as both his 'shield' and 'sword' throughout the novels.

Oh, and Cortana is the name of a sword from the same story as Durandal. Admitedly, that's more of a Marathon reference, but I still think it holds weight.

  • 05.11.2006 12:38 PM PDT
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i got stuck between these two!

Source and SOUL!

Listen to it! it does sound like it!

  • 05.11.2006 12:39 PM PDT
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Ok, thank you for the link. But it's not complete proof that it is sword and only sword. If 'source' plays some large part in the game, it's unlikely that they would willingly say that it is both. Bungie, I think, are generally known for being great at keeping secrets.

Cortana may be saying sword, but as you can hear at the beginning of her speech with the "I have defied Gods and demons" you can easily hear at least 2 different voices, so what's to say one of these other voices isnt' saying 'source'?


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  • 05.11.2006 12:39 PM PDT
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Allright guys, lets settle this Sword/ Source thing now!!!

Lets get all the Source people on one side and all the sword people on the other and just get together and have a slugfest!!!

In the mean time, i'm gonna be waiting for the bungie weekly update to answer all my Questions.

  • 05.11.2006 12:39 PM PDT
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SHIELD and SWORD hmm they seem to fit together nicely.

  • 05.11.2006 12:40 PM PDT
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Fine! Whatever! For -blam!-s sake... there's a reason I stopped coming here! Sorry for the language but seriously...

Looks like, smells like, acts like... get the picture!

You guys wanna deny fact, go right ahead. Just because you're deaf doesn't mean the audio director is! He better not be!

I'm just tired of posting this link over and over:
http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=15687
http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=15687
http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=15687

I figured you'd get it by now! I dont care what you think. It's sword! theorize all you want, it's sword. It's the same thing about the communication on the MC's helmet. It's lightning! not some communication light! jeeeeez!

  • 05.11.2006 12:40 PM PDT
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it actually sounds like soul to me

i am your shield... i am your soul

i dunno, if its not soul its sword

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:40 PM PDT
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It totally said "I am your sores"

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when I was listening, I could of swore I heard "I am your sword sourcerer" maybe I'm wronge. I dont think it is Sword though.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:41 PM PDT
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I've also heard from somwhere that a mythological character's sword was called Cortana. I'll have to do some checking up on that though.
I still think the phrase designed to have a double meaning, though.

I'm off for now. I'm sure this debate will rage on for a long time yet! In the mean time, and because I'm sad, I'll be doing some research on the topic. Good luck to all you debaters!

  • 05.11.2006 12:42 PM PDT
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it actually sounds like soul to me

i am your shield... i am your soul

i dunno, if its not soul its sword


thats wat i said!

i think its soul!

  • 05.11.2006 12:44 PM PDT
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... I think I'm going to cry. Last time, here goes:

http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=15687

  • 05.11.2006 12:45 PM PDT
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how do you know thats true, just some text from halo.bungie.org wont prove anything, I want to find out from Bungie. So I will wait until the next update.

I am still sticking to "I am your sword sourcerer".

  • 05.11.2006 12:49 PM PDT
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swords?

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:50 PM PDT
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meh, it could even be like this

I am your field, I am your source
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I am your shield, I am you sword

  • 05.11.2006 12:51 PM PDT
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Sword. Master Chief is indeed a formiddable weapon by himself, however, without Cortana he would have died on numerous occasions. The books show that time and time again. She also is his protector, she is a tool. She is both a shield, in that she protects the Master Chief from evil, she is a sword in that she can also destroy and eliminate targets, digital or otherwise. Cortana is a tool, a sentient one, but a tool none-the-less. I believe that she has been corrupted by the gravemind , and has discarded extra "unnecessary protocols" in her system. Or they were corrupted. This would leave her with the basic and rudementary functions that would allude to why she is speaking this way. Obviously she has either destroyed or escaped the gravemind, i.e. the "defience of demons and gods", and had to remove some of her programming to survive. She learned some things from the gravemind, "I know you, your past, your future..." During this time she probably also learned about the truth behind the forerunner and now sees herself as a tool to save both the human race and the master chief. Making her a Shield to protect him from destruction and a Sword to destroy the threat.

I know it was hashed together really quick but that is what I am geeting from the movie clip and the backstory.

  • 05.11.2006 12:52 PM PDT

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