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Subject: Can Forerunner AI's go rampant?

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  • 01.01.2012 9:27 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

You clearly have not played Halo 3...

  • 01.01.2012 9:30 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: DrPepperlova07

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
You clearly have not played Halo 3...



I have...but did i miss something. Im not very big on the details in games and dont pay to much attention so can you explain what you mean


How can you miss a floating orb shooting lasers at you from its eye?

  • 01.01.2012 9:32 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: DrPepperlova07
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
You clearly have not played Halo 3...



I have...but did i miss something. Im not very big on the details in games and dont pay to much attention so can you explain what you mean


How can you miss a floating orb shooting lasers at you from its eye?


Apart from 343 Guilty Spark, and possibly Pertinent Tangent(?) the monitor of Delta Halo having a red eye when in possession of the Gravemind in Halo 2, Medicant Bias also turned rampant thanks to the Gravemind and sided with the Flood.

  • 01.01.2012 9:41 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: DrPepperlova07
But what about without any outside influence to go rampant. Gravemind is able to cause AI's to go rampant but if one had no outside influence then would it? and also did 343 guilty spark go rampant? I thought he was just trying to protect the installations and prevent their destruction




Without outside influence I highly doubt it. 343 was fine for 100.000 years of solitude, but turned rampant when he came in contact with other beings. His act of aggression against Reclaimers (Johnson and John) obviously shows signs of rampancy, and his eye turning red, different from the normal blue, is another showing of this.

AI being alone would, by logic, not turn rampant since they have no external threats that will put in question it's existence and nothing else to relate to to see who is more knowledgeable or similar things.

  • 01.01.2012 9:53 PM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: DrPepperlova07
But what about without any outside influence to go rampant. Gravemind is able to cause AI's to go rampant but if one had no outside influence then would it? and also did 343 guilty spark go rampant? I thought he was just trying to protect the installations and prevent their destruction




Without outside influence I highly doubt it. 343 was fine for 100.000 years of solitude, but turned rampant when he came in contact with other beings. His act of aggression against Reclaimers (Johnson and John) obviously shows signs of rampancy, and his eye turning red, different from the normal blue, is another showing of this.

AI being alone would, by logic, not turn rampant since they have no external threats that will put in question it's existence and nothing else to relate to to see who is more knowledgeable or similar things.
I disagree. It seemed to me that he was showing signs of rampancy in the terminals on CEA

  • 01.01.2012 9:54 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: TDR Mudcat09
Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: DrPepperlova07
But what about without any outside influence to go rampant. Gravemind is able to cause AI's to go rampant but if one had no outside influence then would it? and also did 343 guilty spark go rampant? I thought he was just trying to protect the installations and prevent their destruction



Without outside influence I highly doubt it. 343 was fine for 100.000 years of solitude, but turned rampant when he came in contact with other beings. His act of aggression against Reclaimers (Johnson and John) obviously shows signs of rampancy, and his eye turning red, different from the normal blue, is another showing of this.

AI being alone would, by logic, not turn rampant since they have no external threats that will put in question it's existence and nothing else to relate to to see who is more knowledgeable or similar things.
I disagree. It seemed to me that he was showing signs of rampancy in the terminals on CEA


Yeah... I havent played CEA.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 9:58 PM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 9:57 PM PDT

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Mendicant Bias went rampant.

  • 01.01.2012 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: orphan
I think Forerunner AI generally only go rampant due to "emotional instability". 343GS was lonely, and both 2401PT & MB were corrupted by the Gravemind. However, there is that one Monitor... I forget his name, but after abducting some Spartans, he attempted to dissect them to see if they were naturally resistant to the Flood. I think this was from a graphic novel or something.

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  • 01.01.2012 10:42 PM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: DrPepperlova07
But what about without any outside influence to go rampant. Gravemind is able to cause AI's to go rampant but if one had no outside influence then would it? and also did 343 guilty spark go rampant? I thought he was just trying to protect the installations and prevent their destruction




Without outside influence I highly doubt it. 343 was fine for 100.000 years of solitude, but turned rampant when he came in contact with other beings. His act of aggression against Reclaimers (Johnson and John) obviously shows signs of rampancy, and his eye turning red, different from the normal blue, is another showing of this.

AI being alone would, by logic, not turn rampant since they have no external threats that will put in question it's existence and nothing else to relate to to see who is more knowledgeable or similar things.


Turning red just means he's using his defensive beam weapon. He goes red when he attacks the combat form about the wtf-flank Master Chief in Halo 3 as well.

  • 01.02.2012 1:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: DrPepperlova07

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
You clearly have not played Halo 3...



I have...but did i miss something. Im not very big on the details in games and dont pay to much attention so can you explain what you mean


How can you miss a floating orb shooting lasers at you from its eye?

  • 01.02.2012 1:19 AM PDT

Apart from 343 Guilty Spark, and possibly Pertinent Tangent(?) the monitor of Delta Halo having a red eye when in possession of the Gravemind in Halo 2, Medicant Bias also turned rampant thanks to the Gravemind and sided with the Flood.

Well actually, Medicant Bias is never actually rampant, he is mearly swayed by reason (further proven in Halo: Primordium) and he wasn't with the gravemind but the precursor who he talked to for 43 years and who convinced him to change his masters.

  • 01.02.2012 1:53 AM PDT

Medicant bias didn't go rampant, it just went with the more logical and superior species.

The flood are potentially infinite. One giant mass of knowledge and flesh. A giant, gross, green library.

  • 01.02.2012 2:12 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Absolutely, in the CEA terminals 343 shows a gradual fall into rampancy from lack of tasks for him to complete. Even a living being would go mad with 100,000 years of inactivity.

  • 01.02.2012 2:54 AM PDT

Posted by: CoolCJ24
Absolutely, in the CEA terminals 343 shows a gradual fall into rampancy from lack of tasks for him to complete. Even a living being would go mad with 100,000 years of inactivity.


Funny you mention that as 343 was a living breating being before becoming what he is now

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: DrPepperlova07
But what about without any outside influence to go rampant. Gravemind is able to cause AI's to go rampant but if one had no outside influence then would it? and also did 343 guilty spark go rampant? I thought he was just trying to protect the installations and prevent their destruction




Without outside influence I highly doubt it. 343 was fine for 100.000 years of solitude, but turned rampant when he came in contact with other beings. His act of aggression against Reclaimers (Johnson and John) obviously shows signs of rampancy, and his eye turning red, different from the normal blue, is another showing of this.

AI being alone would, by logic, not turn rampant since they have no external threats that will put in question it's existence and nothing else to relate to to see who is more knowledgeable or similar things.


Turning red just means he's using his defensive beam weapon. He goes red when he attacks the combat form about the wtf-flank Master Chief in Halo 3 as well.

  • 01.02.2012 5:58 AM PDT

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I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.


Posted by: wyattr50
Mendicant Bias went rampant.

  • 01.02.2012 6:00 AM PDT

Halo how are you?


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
You clearly have not played Halo 3...


Yes at the end guilty spark goes crrrRAAAAYyyzzziee.

  • 01.02.2012 6:02 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

Many people say Guilty Spark went Rampant (I believe he did). AI's seem to inevitably go rampant but the Forerunner AI's in comparison can last for thousands and thousands of years.

I think the lack of communication with the other monitors or anyone else can help lead to that rampancy.

  • 01.02.2012 6:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Urban GFX
Posted by: CoolCJ24
Absolutely, in the CEA terminals 343 shows a gradual fall into rampancy from lack of tasks for him to complete. Even a living being would go mad with 100,000 years of inactivity.


Funny you mention that as 343 was a living breathing being before becoming what he is now


Don't spoil it for them.......let them find out on their own.

[Edited on 01.02.2012 9:16 AM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 9:16 AM PDT

-Dead Orbit..

The forerunner A.I trapped in the forerunner ship in high charity went rampant by the gravemind. His name was: Mendicant Bias.

  • 01.02.2012 10:05 AM PDT

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