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Subject: Assualt Rifle or Battle Rifle?
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Poll: Assualt Rifle or Battle Rifle?  [closed]
Assualt Rifle :  18%
(9 Votes)
Battle Rifle :  24%
(12 Votes)
Both :  58%
(29 Votes)
Total Votes: 50

One of the many interesting things during the Halo 3 trailer was the chief holding an MA5B (Assualt Rifle) from Halo 1. However, I feel re-issuing this weapon is a tragic mistake.

My reasons:

1. The BR is so much more accurate.
2. We often hear all Halo 2 is "noobie spay and pray" and Halo 1 was so much better. However, the AR was the personification of "spay and pray."
3. Balance issues with the SMG.
4. The BR takes so much skill because of ammo (36+108) the AR (60+600) needs only time and luck.
5. The assualt rifle is a move in the wrong direction. We should focus on the future not the past.

Vote or Die

  • 05.11.2006 12:45 PM PDT
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how about the next time you make a thread like this add the option to pick "upgraded AR" because i don't want the AR cuz it was pretty useless, but i don't want to see a gun from H2 that i've been using since it came out. So next time, take time and think before you post.

  • 05.11.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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i voted both beacuse i have proof, just go to bungie forum and click the picture then look closer... then you will could see a metal covered the rifle zoom and you can see there is some black stuff, like the barrier which it is at beginning of the gun

  • 05.11.2006 12:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fragert 678
The assualt rifle is a move in the wrong direction. We should focus on the future not the past.

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Then with that logic shouldn't you be hoping for neither?

  • 05.11.2006 12:49 PM PDT
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I would just like to point out, the BR was made in the Pistol's image, so ya its accurate...
The SMG was made in the AR's image...GET IT?
Look the pistol was a small accurate, pistol....in Halo 2 they made the pistols (virtually) bigger like a rifle and the AR smaller like the SMG, you sir are a -blam!- retard

NO ONE SEEMS TO REALIZE, THE PISTOL BASICALLY = BR
AR = SMG

just different skins and sizes and sound, they do the same thing though, so stop whining like a 2 year old

  • 05.11.2006 12:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fragert 678
One of the many interesting things during the Halo 3 trailer was the chief holding an MA5B (Assualt Rifle) from Halo 1. However, I feel re-issuing this weapon is a tragic mistake.

My reasons:

1. The BR is so much more accurate.
2. We often hear all Halo 2 is "noobie spay and pray" and Halo 1 was so much better. However, the AR was the personification of "spay and pray."
3. Balance issues with the SMG.
4. The BR takes so much skill because of ammo (36+108) the AR (60+600) needs only time and luck.
5. The assualt rifle is a move in the wrong direction. We should focus on the future not the past.

Vote or Die




1. The BR is so much more accurate. - Not really, it only seems that way because of the auto-aim.

2. We often hear all Halo 2 is "noobie spay and pray" and Halo 1 was so much better. However, the AR was the personification of "spay and pray." - The AR's spread is much less than the SMG.

3. Balance issues with the SMG. - SMG sucks anyway, take it out.

4. The BR takes so much skill because of ammo (36+108) the AR (60+600) needs only time and luck. - Not really, with the auto-aim, it makes it relatively easy to get two or even three kills with one clip.

5. The assualt rifle is a move in the wrong direction. We should focus on the future not the past. - Focusing on the past a little bit could create a greater future than that if we hadn't.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:51 PM PDT

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I vote the Battle Rifle on account of the Assault Rifle was woefully powerful. Multiplayer matches were unfair. People were constantly being mowed down by the AR. I did not like it. The Battle Rifle actually requires you to aim at the head to kill them faster. Otherwise it was shoot, shoot and keep shooting at their torso. The AR however, was point anywhere and you inflict massive amounts of damage. Uncool...

  • 05.11.2006 12:55 PM PDT
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Have you ever considered that maybe they'll remake the assault rifle? Maybe they are going to make it more accurate and powerful. I don't mind if they put back the assault rifle, it would be interesting, but I don't mind if they take out the BR. I personally approve of either weapon being in Halo 3. Just as long as the assault rifle's accuracy is increased. And the SMG doesn't suck, it's a decent weapon to dual-wield with other weapons, and it becomes obsolete when you get a BR, shotgun, or sniper, etc.

I vote the Battle Rifle on account of the Assault Rifle was woefully powerful. Multiplayer matches were unfair. People were constantly being mowed down by the AR. I did not like it. The Battle Rifle actually requires you to aim at the head to kill them faster. Otherwise it was shoot, shoot and keep shooting at their torso. The AR however, was point anywhere and you inflict massive amounts of damage. Uncool...

OMFG are you serious!? More like the other freaking way around! The battle rifle is a weapon of destruction in the hands of just a decent player, who with the help of severe auto-aim can consistently four-shot their opponents head for an easy kill. The AR sucked in Combat Evolved, if you had half a brain you would know that the pistol or the shotgun would easily pwn anybody with the assault rifle. You have to be really really crappy in Halo to not take a person with an AR down. And the AR is not accurate. Basically let me put it this way: in Halo 2, the SMG (which is basically the AR, because it has sixty bullets, slightly more accurate but even so) is not the choice of weapon I would use to go against someone with a battle rifle.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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Well the thing is your comparing a full automatic rifle to a 3 shot burst rifle.I think you should compare the Smg To the Assault Rifle to make it more sence.But back to your topic I would go with battle rifle all the way.I just like how the rifle looks like its accracy and about everything else about it.The Assault Rifle in my oppinion looks really bold its just plain.I know it has the ammo counter but why the heck would we need it if we already have one on our hud.

  • 05.11.2006 12:59 PM PDT
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i really think both, mainly because the smg is wierd, like master chief can flip a tank yet cant hold an smg steady mmmm, renew them plz, why do i want to keep using the same weapon ive been using for a year. i want sonething new to master

  • 05.11.2006 1:00 PM PDT
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  • 05.11.2006 1:02 PM PDT
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Like I said, I don't mind if they add the assault rifle, just as long as it is a practical weapon to use.

  • 05.11.2006 1:04 PM PDT
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I would like to have as many weapons as possible, since it would create more variety and more combo choices. Part of what I like it halo2 is that so many different combos are balanced. BR does require a lot of skill also. Get in a one on one situation with someone bad with the gun and you can 4 shot them easily. I never played halo one so I don't know about the weapons, but I do like mostly all the weapons in halo 2. When I first started playing halo 2, I hated the BR and the PP, But now I realise that it is one of the most powerful combos in the game. I notice that in halo2 online that people always seem to whine if you use any weapon. Use the noob combo, and they whine at you, use the smg and they call you a sprayer, use the sniper and they call you a noob who just hides. In any match if people are smart, they will go for the weapons that will give them an advantage.

  • 05.11.2006 1:06 PM PDT
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i hope they put in a new AR the BR is so annoyin all it is whoever shoots fisrt win
and if you get shot in the back u cant get away you always die

if they keep the BR they better depower it and make it like 6 shots to the dome to kill instead of like 3 or 2 that i always die by, and maybe make it less accurate

and the worst thing about the br is the -blam!- COMBO thats worst part about playin halo

so the AR would be somthin new, but i still can see it bein annoyin if ur walkin and all of a sudden people sprayin bullets on ur back like spray paint, shaken up ur screen and maked it so you cant zoom in....

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  • 05.11.2006 1:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: KingMidg
i hope they put in a new AR the BR is so annoyin all it is whoever shoots fisrt win
and if you get shot in the back u cant get away you always die

if they keep the BR they better depower it and make it like 6 shots to the dome to kill instead of like 3 or 2 that i always die by, and maybe make it less accurate

and the worst thing about the br is the -blam!- COMBO thats worst part about playin halo

so the AR would be somthin new, but i still can see it bein annoyin if ur walkin and all of a sudden people sprayin bullets on ur back like spray paint, shaken up ur screen and maked it so you cant zoom in....


It takes 4 shots and you can kill some one if they see you first you acn still kill them. Try to look behind you one in a while and you won't get shot first as much

  • 05.11.2006 1:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hashbrowns03
just different skins and sizes and sound, they do the same thing though, so stop whining like a 2 year old

Are you freakin kidding me? The SMG is NOTHING like the AR. The AR is waaay more powerful, and it's ROF is slower. I personally love both weapons, BR cause I -blam!- with it, and AR because it looks so awesome. I hope we get some sort of moderation between the two: Mabe like the concept BR, except with full auto/burst instead of burst/single shot.

  • 05.11.2006 1:18 PM PDT
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You can't really stop people from combo-ing unless you remove the plasma-pistols in the map, or just move them away from things like the battlerifle and pistol. If they got rid of the BR then people who sued the combo woudl just use the Magnum to use the combo, and if they bring back the Halo 1 pistol, they will just not waste time switching and use the 3 shot kill to the head.

You can argue from both sides of the spectrum, while yes the BR-55 is more accurate, and stronger than the MA5B, keep in mind that the MA5B is also stornger than the SMG. For example if you were running through campaign what would you prefer to have, a BR and an SMG, or a BR and an AR, having both is better. And if you were to pit one against the other, the guy with the BR runs at the fires a shot, then you oepn up with a constant spray of fire, wich prevents the BR from zooming, but can also try to fire through that, and maybe get the kill still, and one major reasons for the BR's accuracy is that it fires burst, if you'll notice shooting someone with no shields is easier to kill them with the BR than the Magnum, this is because you have more shots that could potentially kill him, as opposed to the Magnum wich only has one. It's like a the lottery, the more tickets you buy the more of a chance you have of winning, it's just the BR has bought more tickets.

Also, for those of you who complain that the AR is stronger (huh?!) Well don't worry, even (when) Bungie does bring it back, keep in mind that Mark VI armour is stronger than Mark V, so it will take longer to kill people anyway! Also if it was unbalanced there would just be a lot of auto-updates fixing that...if Bungie doesn't catch it during the innitial creation of the game...wich they should...because they're infallible.

  • 05.11.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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you need to know HOW to use the AR to be good with it. Spray sucks for AR. You need close range with it and a slap acrross the face and then your good. If one slap doesnt work keep shooting...Or swich gun.

  • 05.11.2006 1:29 PM PDT
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I'm SO with you there, exept i learned when playing XBC that it's best to crouch and melee when you get close enoguh so that if they melee at the same time as you, it goes over your head!

  • 05.11.2006 1:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hashbrowns03
just different skins and sizes and sound, they do the same thing though, so stop whining like a 2 year old

Are you freakin kidding me? The SMG is NOTHING like the AR. The AR is waaay more powerful, and it's ROF is slower. I personally love both weapons, BR cause I -blam!- with it, and AR because it looks so awesome. I hope we get some sort of moderation between the two: Mabe like the concept BR, except with full auto/burst instead of burst/single shot.

The SMG is basically a modified AR. It's not exactly the same obviously but both have 60 rounds per clip, sprays, works decently close range. The BR is very similar to the pistol. 12 bursts in a BR clip, 12 shots in a pistol, 2x zoom, works in medium range.

ROFL. "SMG is NOTHING like the AR."

  • 05.11.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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this has probably already been said, but maybe just maybe, they'll have both weapon sets from halo and halo 2 plus some more, because the chief found some old weapons cache on earth,

small evidence for theory ~ end of h2 he has no weapons on forerunner ship, sure he'd get some covie ones but human ones are so much better, perhaps the chief just finds some old storage area full of redundant weapons,

  • 05.11.2006 1:48 PM PDT

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In theory this is the last halo game or perhaps the penultimate game. As Cortana says at the end of the trailer, "this is how the world ends". This implies that halo 3 will be the last battle for the survival of mankind. In any real situation you would use all availiable assets so in theory, the MA5B (AR) and BR55 (BR) will both be present. If however bungie choose to just have one or the other i'm sure the descision they make will be for the best. However i would like to see the ability to carry Halo Combat Evolved amounts of ammunition for say; the pistol or smg as you can only carry 3 or 4 mags in halo 2.

  • 05.11.2006 2:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fragert 678
One of the many interesting things during the Halo 3 trailer was the chief holding an MA5B (Assualt Rifle) from Halo 1. However, I feel re-issuing this weapon is a tragic mistake.

My reasons:

1. The BR is so much more accurate.
2. We often hear all Halo 2 is "noobie spay and pray" and Halo 1 was so much better. However, the AR was the personification of "spay and pray."
3. Balance issues with the SMG.
4. The BR takes so much skill because of ammo (36+108) the AR (60+600) needs only time and luck.
5. The assualt rifle is a move in the wrong direction. We should focus on the future not the past.




The "spraying and praying" that came with using the AR was nothing compared to the DWing of two SMGing.


The AR was very skillful.

  • 05.11.2006 2:08 PM PDT