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Subject: How Much would you pay for a Halo 2 remake?
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up to $120 aus seeing as it might be the last good game in the series ever to be released (thats if they use in house game engine for the multiplayer as well)

  • 01.09.2012 12:04 AM PDT

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If it had the same exact gameplay as the original, then I would pay over $50. I wouldn't mind new graphics though.

  • 01.09.2012 7:02 AM PDT

You know what i would pay anything to get a remake of Halo 2 but with not a lot of changes to the game because the game was good enough :). I just recently played all the halo games i had out of all of them Halo 2 always had that feeling to it. It always had that thing that no other game had. Maybe it can be like Halo Anniversary but not change the graphics in Multiplayer.

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  • 01.10.2012 12:08 AM PDT

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not much, I dont think Id even buy it

  • 01.13.2012 5:25 PM PDT

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i would pay 20 dollers if they just gave us xbox live back

  • 01.14.2012 1:43 PM PDT
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Why do all of you claim you'll pay this much money to have Xbox Live back yet only InvasionImminent joined Grunty's XBC get together? How come I never see any of you on either Xlink Kai or XBox Connect even though I get on frequently? I'm primarily a fan of the first Halo and I'm willing to bet I play Halo 2 more than most the people in this thread claiming they'd pay ridiculous amounts of money for the game back.

I know this seems harsh, but I honestly don't think you guys are as dedicated as you claim to be. I didn't show up to the game night on XBC, but I had good reason. (People showing up at my house) I expected more out of the people who seem to have "so much passion" for this game's multiplayer to show up.

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  • 01.15.2012 6:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Dr Syx
Why do all of you claim you'll pay this much money to have Xbox Live back yet only InvasionImminent joined Grunty's XBC get together? How come I never see any of you on either Xlink Kai or XBox Connect even though I get on frequently? I'm primarily a fan of the first Halo and I'm willing to bet I play Halo 2 more than most the people in this thread claiming they'd pay ridiculous amounts of money for the game back.

I know this seems harsh, but I honestly don't think you guys are as dedicated as you claim to be. I didn't show up to the game night on XBC, but I had good reason. (People showing up at my house) I expected more out of the people who seem to have "so much passion" for this game's multiplayer to show up.

Seriously this.

I know a guy who just bought Halo 2 a week ago and has been playing on XBC non stop. I would say he is more dedicated than most of you guys are. Besides, why is it that only a handful of users even come to this forum, but every one claims to be the biggest fan? I know some people have difficulties with XBC as it took me a year to figure out how to work it, but at least I when I had a glimmer of hope I put my 100% in it.

  • 01.15.2012 6:18 PM PDT

For me, I want a remake for several reasons; I want the damned shadows fixed for CMP and MP, I'd like to see updated graphics, maybe there'll be new levels and it should be made available for Live again (there was a small group of players that played on a regular basis, I'd like to see it put back up for them for the long run).

Everybody knows, or should know, that after release of any remake, the level of play will drop off over a relatively short period of time. CE will join that group, I don't know the numbers at this point but I'm guessing they will be very low at some point in the next year or so. So Halo 2 would join that group too, lots of sales and lots of players at first and then the drop off. However, there will be a brief period where there will be thousands of players and that is why people are calling for a remake.

They are willing to pay upwards of $60 dollars for a chance to relive the old ways even if it's brief or even if it's just a hope. I also think most know that it will not last but that is not the issue, they just want it for a while. I think most do know that whatever magic that was there years ago will not be back like it was but they want a chance at it, even for a few hours or days.

MS knows this, they would't want a resurgence of full-time H2 players, they are content to reap the rewards of a disk release, imo.

I think the criticism of people just because they did not sign-on to or even have XBC is too harsh. As I said, there are many reasons to want a remake besides Live and then it's a matter of choice by consumers as to what they will pay for. At this point the Live they are looking for will be very short-term, and in that lies a hope that the old days will briefly return. That's as good a reason to want a remake as any other, it's a matter of choice.

  • 01.15.2012 7:56 PM PDT
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It is NOT too harsh to call out people for not joining in on Xbox Connect game nights which is a free service when they are claiming they would pay outrageous amounts of money for it. It's as simple as that.

Grumpy, you know I support Halo 2. I defend it all the time. It ought to have online again, but if this community shows this little dedication to the game it will simply die off. I get on often to the North American Kai channel often to help it from dying. If you all love this game so much you ought to do the same. Period.

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  • 01.15.2012 8:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dr Syx
Why do all of you claim you'll pay this much money to have Xbox Live back yet only InvasionImminent joined Grunty's XBC get together? How come I never see any of you on either Xlink Kai or XBox Connect even though I get on frequently? I'm primarily a fan of the first Halo and I'm willing to bet I play Halo 2 more than most the people in this thread claiming they'd pay ridiculous amounts of money for the game back.

I know this seems harsh, but I honestly don't think you guys are as dedicated as you claim to be. I didn't show up to the game night on XBC, but I had good reason. (People showing up at my house) I expected more out of the people who seem to have "so much passion" for this game's multiplayer to show up.
Since I don't have Halo 2 for Xbox, I can be excused doc right? :D

  • 01.15.2012 8:12 PM PDT
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I guess, but if you really want to show support you ought to buy it and get on Kai. :P

I'm not trying to seem mean to you guys... I just feel that some sense needs to be slapped into you guys about this subject.

  • 01.15.2012 8:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Dr Syx
It is NOT too harsh to call out people for not joining in on Xbox Connect game nights which is a free service when they are claiming they would pay outrageous amounts of money for it. It's as simple as that.

Grumpy, you know I support Halo 2. I defend it all the time. It ought to have online again, but if this community shows this little dedication to the game it will simply die off. I get on often to the North American Kai channel often to help it from dying. If you all love this game so much you ought to do the same. Period.
Everyone that did not play probably had their own good reason for not playing that particular night, not sure how you came to judge everyone else.

There are many reasons to want a remake or even Live and it does not have to be backed up by playing XBC or KAI. The players that choose not to play may have played XBC before and simply do not feel like they had a good time. It's a matter of choice and besides, if XBC and KAI die off, the demand for Live may even be greater as there will be no choice whatsoever. The demand for Live to be put back up is not solely dependent upon either XBC or KAI, that will exist no matter what.

There's always a different way to look at things so I still disagree with you slamming people just because you think your point of view is the only correct way to look at things.

The point of this forum is discussion and having a good time, not slamming people no matter if you have intentions that you tell yourself are good.

  • 01.15.2012 9:22 PM PDT
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If people don't get on Xbox Connect or Kai it shows that people aren't as dedicated as they claim to be. It does not make a higher demand for Live support. You know what Microsoft would see? Microsoft would see a free alternative that isn't being used. One that is well advertised all across these forums. How does that possibly mean Microsoft would have the slightest thought that would be a good investment for them? If people aren't going to take it for free then why the hell would Microsoft think they'd pay for it? I would find it absolutely insulting if they did... That would show us how stupid Microsoft thinks we are...

You have full control on how your Kai/XBC experience goes. Go onto it, make a server with your own game types, and make friends. It is still Halo 2 multiplayer and if you love the game so damn much then you'll have a good time with it. I sure as hell do all the time with people like re4thewin, Grunty, and InvasionImminent. All you have to do is put in a little effort. If you're not willing to put any effort into it then you don't even deserve the game to be brought back to Xbox Live.

I'm not trying to slam people, Grumpy. I'm trying to slap people into shape to realize that the game is dying. That they need to stop whining and actually do something about it. Put a little effort into the fight to keep this game relevant. If you want a community then actually join in on some game nights. Even Halo 2 Vista had a better turn out than Xbox did. That's just sad when you can get more players out of Vista which usually has only around 30 players on it at once. It's pathetic.

Who do you think is doing more good for Halo 2, Grumpy? The one that is trying to kick butts in gear to support Halo 2 or the person excusing them for not trying? The one that is actually attempting to have game nights or the one that's making up ridiculous things like a lack of people on XBC/Kai would show Microsoft there's a higher demand for it to be brought to Live. If you want something in life you show initiative. You go out and get it. A few of us are actually doing so. If anyone cares enough they ought to join us.

If you want to make excuses for other people rather than help Halo 2 keep living then fine. Be like that. Make excuses for people as much as you want. Just don't start calling me bad for calling out people for not helping keep it alive.

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  • 01.15.2012 10:01 PM PDT

Microsoft will not remake H2 because of expected Live support. They will only be in it to sell the disks, they know damned well there will be nobody playing it in a short period and I believe the last thing MS want is for a big community of H2 players to form. They get it both ways, lots of sales and not much interference with the current Live community.

So, no community interest in XBC or KAI may be just what MS wants to see. They already know they will not make money off people playing H2 Live.

Added to that if XBC and KAI die off people can yell even louder that there is absolutely no alternatives to a service that they once provided and took off line. The demand would not die down for an H2 remake if KAI and XBC were to be eliminated, it would go up, imo.

Also, no matter that you think the end justifies the means, slapping people around is not cool.

  • 01.15.2012 10:16 PM PDT

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So in other words, if nobody is on Xlink Kai, then demand for live will go up?

Lan tunnelers will never die off, plus, if MS sees that people are still tunneling then the chances of them remaking it are higher, as many people would buy it. They saw that there are still people on Halo PC, and even posted a thread on a certain forum asking for the community to show off how much people care.

If you guys really care about Halo 2, contribute. Stop sitting around on BNET asking for a remake, when you could be on Kai, organizing matches right now.

You know, I'm not a big fan of H2, and I'm on Xlink Kai more then most of the people here.....

  • 01.15.2012 10:24 PM PDT
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You make it sound like I'm doing some absolutely terrible thing by saying people ought to get on Xlink Kai and Xbox Connect if they want Halo 2 back online. Knocking some sense into people has lead to many great things throughout history. Do you think if Martin Luther King Jr. didn't raise his voice to people to get them to get off their asses and make a change that civil rights in America would have ever happened?

If Microsoft sees little people on Xbox Connect and Xlink Kai it would show there's not much interest in the game. That in reality people aren't as passionate as they claim they are. That would show it wouldn't be worth while to make a remake of the game. 343 Industries has already stated that they don't really see a good reason as of right now to remake the game with Halo: Combat Evolved being remade to celebrate 10 years of Halo in general. The only thing I've seen 343i see interest in is bringing Halo 2 back online in some fashion.

People are crying out just as much as they ever will. North America/Europe players don't even exist on Kai anymore except for the few that are actually dedicated to keeping this game alive. There are many more whiners than doers in this community.

How does your logic make sense in the least? "They don't want people on Xbox Live with Halo 2, so seeing that there won't be that many people who really want it they won't have to worry about that. That's why they'll want to put the game back online, right!?!?"

Edit: There! Look! The guy most of you mark as a terrible troll to Halo 2 gets on the game more than most of you do. Do you not see how horrible that is?

[Edited on 01.15.2012 10:31 PM PST]

  • 01.15.2012 10:30 PM PDT


Posted by: JacobGRocks
So in other words, if nobody is on Xlink Kai, then demand for live will go up?
Of course it's possible, the people who are playing KAI or XBC now may decide to toss their lot in with all the people calling for an H2 remake if their alternative is taken away. I'd say likely and the demand may go up more than MS would like.

MS doesn't want a large population of remake players and if nobody is playing KAi then it could encourage MS to do the remake. It stands to reason they would want the popularity to die down within a few months so they can promote the next Halo.



  • 01.15.2012 10:53 PM PDT
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I'd say likely and the demand may go up more than MS would like.
Yes... 10 more people would put so much more pressure on Microsoft. They'd have no other choice!!!
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MS doesn't want a large population of remake players and if nobody is playing KAi then it could encourage MS to do the remake. It stands to reason they would want the popularity to die down within a few months so they can promote the next Halo.
If they don't want a population of people on Halo 2 then they won't make a remake/bring it back to Live. Your logic makes absolutely no damn sense.

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  • 01.15.2012 11:04 PM PDT

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So in other words, if nobody is on Xlink Kai, then demand for live will go up?
Of course it's possible, the people who are playing KAI or XBC now may decide to toss their lot in with all the people calling for an H2 remake if their alternative is taken away. I'd say likely and the demand may go up more than MS would like.

MS doesn't want a large population of remake players and if nobody is playing KAi then it could encourage MS to do the remake. It stands to reason they would want the popularity to die down within a few months so they can promote the next Halo.





Um, no, a good number of people on Kai don't even care about remakes right now.

Most of the people in Latin America play far more then the people begging Microsoft to bring back H2. Go in, you will see activity, people asking for 1v1s, 2v2s, and private games. No begging Microsoft for live, no whining about petitions, no nothing. Just people playing Halo.

  • 01.15.2012 11:11 PM PDT
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Just people playing Halo.
Exactly. People actually enjoying the game and keeping it alive. They're not wasting their time complaining. They're doing something about it.

  • 01.15.2012 11:18 PM PDT


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Posted by: JacobGRocks
So in other words, if nobody is on Xlink Kai, then demand for live will go up?
Of course it's possible, the people who are playing KAI or XBC now may decide to toss their lot in with all the people calling for an H2 remake if their alternative is taken away. I'd say likely and the demand may go up more than MS would like.

MS doesn't want a large population of remake players and if nobody is playing KAi then it could encourage MS to do the remake. It stands to reason they would want the popularity to die down within a few months so they can promote the next Halo.





Um, no, a good number of people on Kai don't even care about remakes right now.

Most of the people in Latin America play far more then the people begging Microsoft to bring back H2. Go in, you will see activity, people asking for 1v1s, 2v2s, and private games. No begging Microsoft for live, no whining about petitions, no nothing. Just people playing Halo.
That's just your opinion, the Latin American players played something before KAI or XBC so maybe they played Live. Like I said, if Live was the only alternative for H2 in the form of a remake, all online Live players would go for it, even the ones who say they don't care now.

All MS has to worry about is H2 Live becoming too popular so that it overlaps into other sales. That was one of the problems with H2 in the first place, it lasted longer at the top than they wanted. I don't think that will happen because the population will go down to where it was before they shut it down.


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  • 01.16.2012 2:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
So in other words, if nobody is on Xlink Kai, then demand for live will go up?
Of course it's possible, the people who are playing KAI or XBC now may decide to toss their lot in with all the people calling for an H2 remake if their alternative is taken away. I'd say likely and the demand may go up more than MS would like.

MS doesn't want a large population of remake players and if nobody is playing KAi then it could encourage MS to do the remake. It stands to reason they would want the popularity to die down within a few months so they can promote the next Halo.





Um, no, a good number of people on Kai don't even care about remakes right now.

Most of the people in Latin America play far more then the people begging Microsoft to bring back H2. Go in, you will see activity, people asking for 1v1s, 2v2s, and private games. No begging Microsoft for live, no whining about petitions, no nothing. Just people playing Halo.
That's just your opinion, the Latin American players played something before KAI or XBC so maybe they played Live. Like I said, if Live was the only alternative for H2 in the form of a remake, all online Live players would go for it, even the ones who say they don't care now.

All MS has to worry about is H2 Live becoming too popular so that it overlaps into other sales. That was one of the problems with H2 in the first place, it lasted longer at the top than they wanted. I don't think that will happen because the population will go down to where it was before they shut it down.




Uh, no.

Most of them are on unmodded/softmodded Xboxes, and none of them have any DLC maps. If they have some, they only have the map pack disc maps, no Tombstone or Desolation.

As for H2 live becoming too popular, LOLOLOLOL!

MS shut it because it was slowly dying, while most of the other Xbox originals were empty....

  • 01.16.2012 6:48 AM PDT
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it lasted longer at the top than they wanted.
Lolwut? Are you serious? Yeah... It was a really bad thing to Microsoft that their juggernaut exclusive title was the biggest hit on Xbox Live for that long. Are you even thinking about this stuff before saying it?

The Latin Americans were playing on Xlink Kai/Xbox Connect before Live shut down. That's where they've always been. They're not as fortunate as us and don't have the means to pay for online gaming. They wouldn't make the change over to a new form of Halo 2 if they had to pay for online play.

If MS is so worried that Halo 2 will be too popular then they won't make a form that will be Live enabled or a remake. Simple as that. None of your argument is valid at all. If it's too popular on Xbox Connect/Xlink Kai it would (Supposedly) threaten other Live games that they want at the top. If there's too little players MS won't see the potential in selling Halo 2 again.

[Edited on 01.16.2012 7:15 AM PST]

  • 01.16.2012 7:11 AM PDT

Tell you guys what. When I get the time, which will either be later today or tomorrow, I'l make twp threads. One on Bnet, and one on Halo Waypoint. These threads will be advertising an XBC game. If I don't get more than 10 people to join then it proves that nobody cares as much as they would like to think they do.

  • 01.16.2012 7:18 AM PDT

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