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Subject: Why did Bungie bring back the Assult Rifle?
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The Battle Rifle takes a lot more skill then an assult rifle so why did they bring it back? I hope they reconsider because the BR was a huge part of this game and the assult rifle took no skill. Where would MLG be without the BR?

P.S. I hope you arnt considering bringing back the Pistol too. It was a good weapon but it has to stay back in Halo:CE like that Assult Rifle.

  • 05.11.2006 2:05 PM PDT
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AR would be really interesting.... I totally agree about the old halo 1 pistol though...

  • 05.11.2006 2:06 PM PDT
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It is at LEAST related to the AR...
AR Image here
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NEW Rifle Image here
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BR Image here
Just note the differences, and simulatities, in the Butt of the weapon.

  • 05.11.2006 2:06 PM PDT
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They might be replacing the SMG with the assault rifle

  • 05.11.2006 2:07 PM PDT
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I think thats something for the Bungie employees/staff should anwser.

  • 05.11.2006 2:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Servano
It is at LEAST related to the AR...
AR Image here
and
NEW Rifle Image here
and
BR Image here
Just note the differences, and simulatities, in the Butt of the weapon.


I looks to to be a AutomaticBattleRifle ABR, Bungie will give it a better name.

  • 05.11.2006 2:08 PM PDT
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I don't think they're all too concerned with a minority group (MLG), and I really disagree. The Battle Rifle is a lot like the pistol in that whoever shoots first is almost certain to win, and it takes but a few shots (and VERY little skill) to make a killing. Once someone's seen you, it's almost impossible to evade it. The assault rifle is good because it's close range and very inaccurate. I don't mind it being interchanged with the SMG in Halo 3. In all probability, since the Battle Rifle is not similar to the Assault Rifle (one is for close range, fires quickly and inaccurately, the other is long range and accurate), both may well feature. Or something new altogether.

  • 05.11.2006 2:09 PM PDT
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because i went over there and asked them nicely....

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In case you haven't noticed, the Battle Rifle takes no skill at all. The Auto Aim and the bullets that magically track to your opponents head doesn't take any effort. Plus the AR is just awesome, people say it sucks, but I say they just say that because they suck with it, because I just went through Halo1 legendary using only the AR when possible, and it ROCKED.

  • 05.11.2006 2:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: X FA1NT X
The Battle Rifle takes a lot more skill then an assult rifle so why did they bring it back? I hope they reconsider because the BR was a huge part of this game and the assult rifle took no skill. Where would MLG be without the BR?

P.S. I hope you arnt considering bringing back the Pistol too. It was a good weapon but it has to stay back in Halo:CE like that Assult Rifle.


Please save us the MLG propoganda, it is very easy to kill with the BR at all ranges. Hopefully in Halo 3 the BR will suck at close quarters fighting so it can be balanced by the AR.

  • 05.11.2006 2:11 PM PDT
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C'mon! they coudln't elave it out for THAT long, it IS after all the Chief's favorite gun. Well actually it's the MA2B, but they're all the same thing really.

  • 05.11.2006 2:12 PM PDT

Yes it is spelt like that on purpose.

I like the assualt rifle better because once the battle rifle is gone, there will be no more noooooooooooooooooob combo take that nooooooobs.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 2:13 PM PDT
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me and my friends all think that it will a combination of the BR and AR where you are able to switch to full auto, burst, and single shot. and there is no way they are bringing back the pistol.

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I love how people throw around the phrase "more skill"

Skill is defined as "A developed talent or ability"

Needing to paint a picture of a gun in order to be able to shoot it would take more skill than anything currently in the game.

Besides, with the auto aim on the battle rifle... it takes more skill to miss than to hit someone.

And furthermore, what makes you think that this is the assult rifle? It looks definietly different... The longer barrel suggest more accuracy. The truth is we just don't know.

  • 05.11.2006 2:14 PM PDT
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Now I love the BR but it is too powerful. If Halo 3 has both the BR55 and the MA5B AR then Bungie could balance the two of them and everything will be fine. Im sure the final weapon set for Halo 3 will be great, so lets not worry about it right now.

  • 05.11.2006 2:15 PM PDT
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They obviously are concerned about MLG. They wouldnt have made Team Hardcore or Rumble Hardcore if they wernt. If you think killing someone with a BR is easy when they are strafing around not like a noob your wrong. If they are walking towards you then its an easy kill. Your a noob if you think a AR is any good. You just have to hold down the trigger and it kills you in seconds incase you havnt played Halo:CE

  • 05.11.2006 2:16 PM PDT
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well, in h2 the BR was a way better weapon than the AR in CE, but think of it this way. The pistol in CE is like the BR in h2, BR with some added features of course. Main reason to weaken the pistol and make the BR was to make a weapon as strong and as accurate as the pistol, but make it look more realistic compared to its power. The AR was extremely weak in CE for some apparent reason, but what Bungie might have done is take the AR in CE, make it strong like the BR just less accurate, and place it in h3 to throw in another weapon to the arsenal. New game has to have new weapons, and the AR was rid of h2, so Bungie maybe took their fallen weapon and just gave it a make over.

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Word, a hybrid of everything WOULD be neet. But then it woudl just be Republic Commando, and we do NOT want that!

  • 05.11.2006 2:16 PM PDT

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Surely they are bringing it back because they want all of their iconic weapons in their last halo game. So the AR is back from Halo1, it was a trademark of the game. And I cant imagine that the BR will be dropped. They will surely both be in Halo3. And the smg too.

Now think back to Halo1, it wasnt much of a rifle. I would think that it will be tweaking to be somewhere right between an smg and a battle rifle. Automatic fire with just a bit more range than an smg, which would allow dual wielding to stay effective at close range.

  • 05.11.2006 2:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cyco Halo Fan
I like the assualt rifle better because once the battle rifle is gone, there will be no more combo. Take that nooooooobs.


Please dont use that word in these forums, when you do your bring down both yourself and the Halo community.

  • 05.11.2006 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: X FA1NT X
The Battle Rifle takes a lot more skill then an assult rifle so why did they bring it back? I hope they reconsider because the BR was a huge part of this game and the assult rifle took no skill. Where would MLG be without the BR?

P.S. I hope you arnt considering bringing back the Pistol too. It was a good weapon but it has to stay back in Halo:CE like that Assult Rifle.


You are complaining about something you don't even know is true yet?!

While you are at it, why don't you complain about the president of 2050?

  • 05.11.2006 2:19 PM PDT
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If Bungie brings back the AR, they will be shooting themselves again like in Halo 2 with the glitches and stuff. now seriously, why should they even consider the AR in Halo 3? its like Pepsi bringing back the Pepsi Clear(it just flopped in sales). do you guys remember that? i agree with one of the guys automatic BR sounds tight! New and improved BR. In the end, i think Bungie is going to be smart this time and introduce new weapons while bringing back some old ones like the pistol in H1, rocket launcher in H2, sniper, covenant snipe and rifle, etc. something that would be cool would be like "bombs mines." just a thought.

  • 05.11.2006 2:19 PM PDT
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FA1NT is funny. Like any idiot can't shoot someone who is moving. Seriously, you must have sucked at Halo.

  • 05.11.2006 2:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: X FA1NT X
They obviously are concerned about MLG. They wouldnt have made Team Hardcore or Rumble Hardcore if they wernt. If you think killing someone with a BR is easy when they are strafing around not like a noob your wrong. If they are walking towards you then its an easy kill. Your a noob if you think a AR is any good. You just have to hold down the trigger and it kills you in seconds incase you havnt played Halo:CE


Dont use the term "noob" to describe people who have a different opinion than you, it just makes your argument look less valid.

  • 05.11.2006 2:20 PM PDT

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