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Subject: Locked Timestamp

Okay, so I've actually been thinking about this for a while, but it just popped into my head again today and I figured I might as well make a thread about it. Oftentimes, due to the ambiguity of some rules and the personal judgments of the Ninjas, people won't understand why their (or another's) thread was locked. They'll usually either:
a) Post it here, asking why it was locked (as if we locked it)
b) PM the Mod they think locked it
c) PM another Mod asking why it was locked

None of these are fail-safe. We can't tell why things are locked sometimes, and if they PM a Mod that wasn't the Ninja that locked the thread in question, sometimes even other Mods can't tell why it was locked because of the room for interpretation. Hence my suggestion: a lock timestamp.

This can't possibly be hard to implement, so I don't really see the "Web Team has better things to do" etc. argument as being valid. If submitting an edit would result in an edit timestamp, logic dictates that it would be fairly similar to implement a feature where submitting a lock would result in a lock timestamp. Same difference.

Now, this timestamp would show who locked it, and when. That way, if anyone wants to know why, they can PM the Mod they know locked it, and get a definite answer, rather than "I think it was locked because ______".

I see no drawbacks to this. What do you guys think?

  • 01.02.2012 10:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
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Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.

  • 01.02.2012 10:04 PM PDT

Mods should PM the OP explaining why they locked it.
That would solve the problem.

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Posted by: Yax
Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.


Well,l the moderator would have to type why it was locked everytime they locked a thread. I think that would slow them down. This is honestly a great idea.

[Edited on 01.02.2012 10:07 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 10:06 PM PDT

I was gonna say that, but that would be a whole different thing to go into. We'd have to think about how we would do that. We don't want to make locking threads a pain in the ass, but a reason would be good. There could maybe be a confirm("Would you like to enter a reason?") (yes/no) and then, if yes, you can enter a reason. I don't think making the reason submission mandatory would be a good idea, though.
Posted by: Yax
Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.

  • 01.02.2012 10:06 PM PDT

I disagree, I feel that moderators need to have a certain level of anonymity so they cannot be singled out by masses of members who may disagree with their decisions.

[Edited on 01.02.2012 10:11 PM PST]

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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: talon2000
Mods should PM the OP explaining why they locked it.
That would solve the problem.
But then the masses won't be able to learn from the OP's mistake.

Ideally, the mods should post their reason in the thread so everybody can read it but I understand they are discouraged to do this because it 'bumps' the thread.

  • 01.02.2012 10:13 PM PDT

I don't see it hurting anyone, and maybe mods can just turn it off if they don't want their name to be displayed.

  • 01.02.2012 10:15 PM PDT

I'm pretty sure that comes with the job anyway.
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
I disagree, I feel that moderators need to have a certain level of anonymity so they cannot be singled out by masses of members who may disagree with their decisions.

  • 01.02.2012 10:38 PM PDT

Basically, I make the best topics ever.

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No way. Imagine the thousands of PMs they would get if they took the risk to lock a really popular topic.

  • 01.02.2012 10:57 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Most of the time, a mod will post why the thread is being locked right before he does so. If no reason is given, the reason should be obvious. It really doesn't matter who locks the thread.

There are a few occasions where a thread could be locked for no apparent reason. You could really message any moderator online for an explanation and he could probably tell you why simply by looking at the thread.

  • 01.02.2012 11:25 PM PDT

You better close this sig when your done.

Or maybe just make the mod anonymous, sometimes I just want to know why a thread is locked.

  • 01.03.2012 2:19 AM PDT


Posted by: American Recoil
Most of the time, a mod will post why the thread is being locked right before he does so. If no reason is given, the reason should be obvious. It really doesn't matter who locks the thread.

There are a few occasions where a thread could be locked for no apparent reason. You could really message any moderator online for an explanation and he could probably tell you why simply by looking at the thread.

He's got a point actually. If the mod had to put a reason on every single thread including the obvious rule-breaking ones then I think it would hinder more than help. But nobody really needs to see which mod locked what thread, that would only result in "THIS MOD HATES M3!" PMs and threads.

  • 01.03.2012 2:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Yax
Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.

  • 01.03.2012 2:55 AM PDT

Yeah, but we wouldn't want it to be a pain in the ass to lock a thread.
Posted by: arch4ng13

Posted by: Yax
Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.

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Posted by: ctjl96
Yeah, but we wouldn't want it to be a pain in the ass to lock a thread.
Posted by: arch4ng13

Posted by: Yax
Why not just add the reason in to the timestamp why you're at it? Saves the mod's inbox.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.

Adding a description as to why it was banned? It's not like we are asking them to lock a thread blindfolded upside down using only their right foot. Some of the mods even say why they are locking the thread before they lock it. I don't think it would be such a hassle.

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Good idea, but I guess you can make the lock description part optional.

  • 01.03.2012 3:26 AM PDT

That's what I was thinking.
Posted by: komark
Good idea, but I guess you can make the lock description part optional.

  • 01.03.2012 3:40 AM PDT

Better still, it could say for example:

Locked on (date) (time) PDT by (moderator) Reasoning:
Discussing topics concerning (X) which is a violation of the code of conduct.

  • 01.03.2012 4:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: arch4ng13
It's not like we are asking them to lock a thread blindfolded upside down using only their right foot. .
No, but we should totally do this.

  • 01.03.2012 4:41 AM PDT

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I kind of like it. There is no need to keep making "why was this locked threads" and the OP can just PM the mods that appeared to of locked the thread. I don't see any problems with it unless the moderator wan't to be anonymous.

  • 01.03.2012 4:48 AM PDT

Yeah, that's been suggested about five times and I thought of it while writing the OP... I'll update this thread tomorrow, I haven't slept yet tonight.
Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Better still, it could say for example:

Locked on (date) (time) PDT by (moderator) Reasoning:
Discussing topics concerning (X) which is a violation of the code of conduct.

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I may be wrong here, but I honestly believe most people who ask "who locked my thread?" or "why was my thread locked?" are not looking for the simple answer to either question. The real question being asked (IMO) is "To whom do I address my unhappiness that my thread was locked and then take up as much time as I need debating said locking?"

Because if there was a simple, non-bumping "this thread was locked at __:__ by ______" message, it would give the OP (and anyone else who feels they "know better than the idiot who locked a perfectly good/fun/fine/acceptable/MY thread" to then get into a PM discussion with said moderator.

I really don't want to spawn 2-3 PM exchanges (or more) for every topic I lock. I don't want/need to spend all of my time in person-to-person PM exchanges explaining the same things over and over to different (or sadly, the same) people.

When I lock something without a post, I believe that the lock is self-explanatory to anyone with a modicum of reasoning and critical examination skills. What I believe occurs is that members don't want an explanation, they want an argument.

I am not inclined to give them one.

  • 01.03.2012 7:07 AM PDT

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this is the most ridiculous thing ever, solely because most mods lock things they belive are "nonlegit". so it would be something liek


this tread was locked at 12:59 by unnamed oppinionated ninja. lock reason: i belived that this post was close(but not infact breaking) the rules, so i figured seeings how im a godlike figure that im going to lock it. or thread locked because: i dont like the user who posted/am biased against his name

  • 01.03.2012 7:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: talon2000
Mods should PM the OP explaining why they locked it.
That would solve the problem.


This seems more logical for the sake of the moderators inbox.

  • 01.03.2012 7:53 AM PDT

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