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Posted by: the slayer45
I think that after a certain distance nothing is out there because it gets too dense and nothing can sustain the intense pressure.


by nothing, you mean humans, right? there has to some sort of matter that can withstand great pressure out there, somewhere. altho i do agree with the dencity thingy.

  • 09.17.2004 9:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: the slayer45
I think that after a certain distance nothing is out there because it gets too dense and nothing can sustain the intense pressure.


So bascially.....solid nothingness?

  • 09.17.2004 9:46 PM PDT
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my brain hurts

  • 09.17.2004 9:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: pudgypenquin
my brain hurts


my feet hurt. tho thats totaly unrelated to the universe.

  • 09.17.2004 9:51 PM PDT
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no i just had AP Science and AP World history blocks in school today so i can learn anymore today

  • 09.17.2004 9:55 PM PDT

Well, current astrophysics says that the universe is accelerating outwards (expanding at a faster and faster rate) with no sign of stopping.

Of course, Durandal says we only have [color=lime]15.193792102158E+9 years until the closure of the universe[/color].

Nice string theory reference finalwaltz, although I have enough trouble with the 4 dimensions of space-time w/out having to account for twice as many more hidden in tiny strings. I'd like to see a set of coodinate axes for an 11 dimension space. (Never did get around to reading Brian Greene's book.)

  • 09.17.2004 10:01 PM PDT

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-Usefulness of information does apply to how and if you are going to utilize it in the future.

"[History is] a recording of unjustified suffering, irreparable loss, tregedy without catharsis.

do you know what would be really interesting, if we were to actually come in contact with another colonized planet that was from another universe. Its weild to think that there are other galaxies with similar planets like ours, and mabey people just like us who are thinking about what we are talking about in this discusion.

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  • 09.17.2004 10:03 PM PDT
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maybe i'm just to young to know all this but...probally not

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Posted by: ShinomoriX2
I felt like starting a thread about

THE UNIVERSE

I'm interested in hearing peoples theories about the universe. When I think about the universe, I think of inifnite in all directions. I point out that most people don't realize that if you go straight below earth, it goes infinitely in that direction too. Most people tend to think of our solar system as a two-dimensional plane. It only has length and width.


Are you sure that's "most" people or "just you"?


Also, if you were to draw a straight line from below our earth it doesn't necessairily have to hit the top of another planet.

Lastly, I can spend long periods of time (I don't have much of a life, so sue me) trying to imagine nothing. Just nothing. Try it. It's harder than it sounds.


You've barely touched anything about the universe. What you have said seems like knowledge I've had since as long as I can remember - and I assure you - it gets much, much more complex.

Good luck on your search for knowledge, even if you have a late start.

  • 09.17.2004 10:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vella
Ahhh, nothingness. Here's a brain hurter. Try to imagine that there is absolutely no existence at all, not even vacuum, when the universe collapses. Not even blackness.


Wha? Collapses? What about the "big rip", or is this new terminology?

Hubble > redshift > explanation

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Posted by: B4dCyborg
My theory on the universe is that we had at one time a 'Big-Bang' and the universe is slowly oscillating. When I try to think of infinity, I stop before my head hurts. It's just too much for our simple minds to encompass. So, what do you think?


Sounds like the theory of two oscillating two-dimensional universes moving along a 3rd dimensional plane.

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Posted by: finalwaltz
The universe is a giant hypersphere. It's not infinite, but it's impossible to ever leave. If you where to travel in one direction out from earth, you would eventually come back to earth from the opposite direction. We can also only see 3 dimensions of our universe, therefore limiting our veiw from the true 11 dimensional reality.


11 dimensions is only a possibility though, one of many. There are many string theories, and not all include more dimensions.

  • 09.17.2004 10:12 PM PDT
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oohhhh man

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Eh, it's just a theory going. Expansion at a huge rate in relation to average gravity. The Big Rip is a bit of Sci Fi Speculation, where the rate of expansion increases and sub atomic gravity ceases. Not to get technical.

  • 09.17.2004 10:13 PM PDT

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"[History is] a recording of unjustified suffering, irreparable loss, tregedy without catharsis.

clash of the titans.........hehe

  • 09.17.2004 10:13 PM PDT
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So, the universe goes on forever. Forever, you say? Well, it can't! How could it go on forever? But if it stops somewhere, shouldn't there be something behind that? Ahhh.... the human mind. So complex, yet so simple.

  • 09.17.2004 10:14 PM PDT
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ok that kinda made sense thank you for explaining vella


WAIT IF IT'S EXPANDING THEN HOW WAS IT ALREADY GOING fOREVER IF IT JUST GOT BIGGER!!!

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  • 09.17.2004 10:14 PM PDT
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My knowledge of the universe may be crap compared yours, obbi, but beleive me, compared to my classmates I'm a friggin genious =- )
(btw im 15 and am in my freshmen year of highschool, honors)
They simply don't care.

I myself am absolutely fascinated. I posted this thread more to learn more knowledge than to share my own.

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  • 09.17.2004 10:16 PM PDT
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It's not infinite.

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Personally, I believe the universe is infinite. If its not, then whats BEYOND the edge of the universe?

  • 09.17.2004 10:19 PM PDT
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Pudgy, the universe expands because of dark matter. Which we've never seen. At all. It's kind of like the opposite of gravity. Eventually all the galaxies will be pushed so far apart that we won't even be able to see any of other galaxies with even the most powerful telescopes.

The big rip theory is that dark matters rate of expansion in the universe speeds up, and causesgravity to go "out of whack"

--Edit- Damn this QWERTY keyboard.

[Edited on 9/17/2004 10:21:36 PM]

  • 09.17.2004 10:20 PM PDT
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o man ya i'm only 14 freshman 2 and my brain HURTS i'm best at history

ahhhh ok dark matter man i need a notepad

cause ya i know that the universe is expanding and that eventually we wont be able to see any other galaxies

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Posted by: Vella
It's not infinite.


Certainly not. I'm extraordinarily tired (can't describe how much). I can't quite remember if the universe would have to be static for it to be infinite, or would there be another way?*

*so that it allows for our current observations of the universe.

This is a theory that is unbased in anything scientific, that I just guessed up: Suppose the universe starts to tear apart in a big rip. Would we see an opposite event like we saw at the big bang - things go from large bodies, seperate due to lack of pulling force, molecules start to break down and eventually we have a quantum soup - which merely evaporates into nothing.

  • 09.17.2004 10:21 PM PDT

i need some sleep.....

i hate bees...

no rest for the weary...

man i used to do that whn i was littler. i would imagine myself laying on something that wasnt there and everything being white...... Do forget what that one guy said....the universe is always expanding... now THATS even weirder to think about.... wait maybe why everything is getting kind of pulled apart is because we r surrounded by on GIANT black hole... but whats out side that......

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  • 09.17.2004 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vella
Pudgy, the universe expands because of dark matter. Which we've never seen. At all. It's kind of like the opposite of gravity. Eventually all the galaxies will be pushed so far apart that we won't even be able to see any of other galxies with even the most powerful telescopes.

The big rip theory is that dark matters rate of expansion in the universe speeds up, and causesgravity to go "out of whack"


Did you hear the theory that the dark matter might really be a sister universe, behind our own, and that the dark matter is really normal matter in the other universe?

  • 09.17.2004 10:22 PM PDT