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Subject: It's the freakin' Master Chief, my god.
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Alright, this is to EVERYONE who keeps giving out the "It's not John" theories. Please let me make a few points that should show anyone with half of a chimpanzee's brain that it is the good old MC.

First off, common sense. Why in the hell would Bungie make a game with a different Spartan? Now I know, they're in the books, and yes, I have all 3 of them, but if you read just about anything in the game, it's apparent that Bungie intends for the games to be separate from the books, and that means keeping the illusion that MC is the last Spartan. In addition, I quote: "One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the LAST SPARTAN-II and makes a blind jump into deep space." <- That is from the Halo 1 manuel, and it clearly states that in the game, there is only one Spartan. I know, I know, the books contradict that, but why on Earth would Bungie throw in more Spartans when thy've made it clear to the majority of gamers that MC is all that's left.

Next, everyone is saying, "OMG how is it teh chief, hes stil on teh forruner ship!!1!" Go to Gamespot.com. Read the behind the scenes Bungie interview. It CLEARLY states that the segment in the trailer is from roughly 1/3 through the game. Don't believe me?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/news.html?sid=61 49725
Go to the link, under the first update it says exactly what I have mentioned.

It's also worth mentioning, the article refers the the character as Master Chief numerous times.

Another point I keep hearing is how the trailer Sparatn's gloves are different, and in First Strike, Fred had his gloves replaced with MKV MJOLNIR components. One more time: MKV. Mark 5. In Halo 2, MC has MKVI. Now if Fred got to Earth, wouldn't they give him new MKVI or higher armor? so in theory, the cooler, shinier, more advanced armor COULD be the MKV that Fred gets, but it seems much, much more likely it's MKVII or higher, which MC could probably get his hands on after returning from the Forerunner ship.

Finally, why would Bungie do this? What do they have to gain? Sure, they added the Arbiter in Halo 2, but that was to help move along the Covenant civil war and give a more emotional side to the Covenant. How would haveing some random other Spartan, who's appeared in no other games, and who wouldn't be recognized by anyone apart from hardcore Halo book fans, help make this game great? I sure can't think of anything.

In addtion, I'd like to mention the Assault Rifle for for moment.
It looks near identical to the AR (with the exception of a few very tiny visual tweaks and a lightly longer barrel). And yet, because of these seriously miniscule changes, people instantly think it can't possibly be an AR of any sort.

The Sniper in Halo 2 has a rounded scope, in Halo 1 it was squared. Is it still the good ole Sniper? Better believe it.

I'll bet you a weeks paycheck to a crusy bagel that that gun is either the MA5B with a few tweaks, or the smaller MA2B from the books. And it's in the freakin' announcement trailer, so it could very well be removed by the time the game is released.

EDIT:
Desert = sand and dust.
Sand and dust = makes stuff look brown.
Spartan's armor = brownish.
Spartan = In desert.
I rest my case.

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 4:50 PM PDT
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You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just showing us the quote from Frankie in the newest update, stating that the spartan is infact 117.

  • 05.11.2006 4:51 PM PDT
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My god people, its not MC or any other spartan. If the mod didn't remove my thread everyone would know.

It's really M_A_S_T_E_R___C_H_E_F

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  • 05.11.2006 4:51 PM PDT
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There were 2 Spartans on the pillar of Autumn. John and Linda.

Owned fool

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Posted by: Nofaris
You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just showing us the quote from Frankie in the newest update, stating that the spartan is infact 117.


hahahaha

  • 05.11.2006 4:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Havoc208
My god people, its not MC or any other spartan. If the mod didn't remove my thread everyone would know.

It's really M_A_S_T_E_R___C_H_E_F


OMG The Master Chef? Is he going to out cook the baddies?

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Bungie hasn't lied once yet and they said it is John...so shut up

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Posted by: Master_Shryne
There were 2 Spartans on the pillar of Autumn. John and Linda.

Owned fool


buddy, i know youre exceited to get to the halo 3 forums every time you sign in, but it might help if you read the weekly update so you can get your facts straight.

i believe that it is you that has been "owned"

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  • 05.11.2006 4:54 PM PDT
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No, in Halo 3 you play a pure support role, the greatest chef to ever live. You keep the Spartans full of good tasting food.

Finish The Meal
2007

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Linda is mentioned how many times in the game? Roughly zero, I think. I'm just quoting the manuel, take it up with Bungie if you want to argue that.

And I'm not just going to post a quick link, because there are people arguing that teh "Chief" mentioned in Frankie's article is in fact Fred.

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Posted by: Nofaris
You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just showing us the quote from Frankie in the newest update, stating that the spartan is infact 117.

but is that his same armor .....mwa hahahahaha wait didn't he say that it just wasn't linda or kelly?

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The Halo books don't even fit into the Halo storyline. Reread it. The Covies, in First Strike, know where earth is, they want to go in force to destory it. In Halo 2, they only know it because tis got a forerunner installation on it. They don't know its the human home-planet. So, if that's not right, and there weren't any other spartans wahtsoever in Halo 2, one has to assume that the book doesn't fit with the canonized story-line. That is not to say the book isn't excellent, its just not the same thing. So, you have to assume that there are no Spartans, because the story-line in which the other Spartans exist (other than The Fall of Reach) doesn't fit with the games. And the games are the final authority on the actual story-line.

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Frankie said it was the Master Chief.

  • 05.11.2006 4:57 PM PDT
Subject: Holy crap, it's ARC not ARK!
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Bungie states in the FAQ


Is this the last ever Halo game?
A

It is the conclusion to this story arc.

ARC, not ARK, stop spelling it wrong everyone!

  • 05.11.2006 4:57 PM PDT
Subject: It's the freakin' Master Chief, my god.
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it is the MC go to Xbox.com, click the H3 pic. then click watch trailer. Read the article, it says somewhere "and out of the haze walked the most realistic Master Chief ever"
Also, All MJOLNIR armor is green.
"Oh my god new gloves"- in the books it said that spartans had all sorts of equipment that they could just interchange.

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Exactly Murray. The Halo books are great for reading, and offer a little insight into parts of the story, but they don't fit exactly with the plot of the games.

And since were talking about Halo 3 the game, I'd assume the game's plot is more important.

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Posted by: Murray tX
The Halo books don't even fit into the Halo storyline. Reread it. The Covies, in First Strike, know where earth is, they want to go in force to destory it. In Halo 2, they only know it because tis got a forerunner installation on it. They don't know its the human home-planet. So, if that's not right, and there weren't any other spartans wahtsoever in Halo 2, one has to assume that the book doesn't fit with the canonized story-line. That is not to say the book isn't excellent, its just not the same thing. So, you have to assume that there are no Spartans, because the story-line in which the other Spartans exist (other than The Fall of Reach) doesn't fit with the games. And the games are the final authority on the actual story-line.

That, and, Frankie said its MC

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THANK U

U JUST SHUTUP HALF A MILLION PEOPLE

  • 05.11.2006 4:59 PM PDT
Subject: Holy crap, it's ARC not ARK!
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Posted by: SuburbanChief
It is the conclusion to this story arc.

ARC, not ARK, stop spelling it wrong everyone!


OMFG dude, you're stupid. Story arc is a term used in writing. Anything along a certain "arc" all falls into the same story.

Ark is the name of the Forerunner structure used to activate all Halos. Don't believe me, watch the final cutscene of Halo 2 with subtitles. 343GS says Ark.

  • 05.11.2006 5:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: WaffleBoy13
Linda is mentioned how many times in the game? Roughly zero, I think. I'm just quoting the manuel, take it up with Bungie if you want to argue that.

And I'm not just going to post a quick link, because there are people arguing that teh "Chief" mentioned in Frankie's article is in fact Fred.


correct me if im wrong, but doesnt fred lose an arm to a hunters fuel rod cannon in the books? if its the same guy, then it cant be him in the video, since he has 2 arms.its MC,aka John, AKA Spartan 117. period folks.

  • 05.11.2006 5:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: WaffleBoy13
Linda is mentioned how many times in the game? Roughly zero, I think. I'm just quoting the manuel, take it up with Bungie if you want to argue that.

And I'm not just going to post a quick link, because there are people arguing that teh "Chief" mentioned in Frankie's article is in fact Fred.


correct me if im wrong, but doesnt fred lose an arm to a hunters fuel rod cannon in the books? if its the same guy, then it cant be him in the video, since he has 2 arms.its MC,aka John, AKA Spartan 117. period folks.


Actually that's Josh if I remember correct. It's still MC though.

  • 05.11.2006 5:10 PM PDT
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Lol and i thought I was the only one who had the books.

  • 05.11.2006 5:13 PM PDT