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Subject: Changing Bungie's Domain Registrar from GoDaddy

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MLG just moved over 100 domains from GoDaddy

Now it's your move Bungie.

  • 01.05.2012 2:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: ctjl96
I'm not surprised. People were pissed.
Posted by: Replicant73
GoDaddy did a 180 on their SOPA support

Considering they co-wrote the bill I expect that that statement is facetious (Godaddy's statement not yours).

I agree with switching if not for SOPA then for their terrible service and godawful ad campaign.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 2:58 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 2:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: prometheus25
I'm confident that, even if SOPA is passed, it'd end up being ruled as unconstitutional in a few years time.
A few YEARS?! In that time they'll have shut down:

-YouTube - (Video on how to jailbreak iPhone 4s links to a site about Cydia... which can be used to pirate almost anything on the iPhone/iTouch.
-Facebook (someone is invited to a private torrent site and wants to invite their friend on facebook so he puts a link to it on said friend's wall)
-Google - (search results contains link to something that has an article that links to a site that has a free download of ONE thing that is pirated [yes... that's a way this bill/law can and will work])
-Yahoo - (same as google)
-Bing - (same as yahoo only it's funnier cause no one uses Bing)
-Wikipedia - (one -blam!- links off-site in one article to something that happens to be pirated)
-Twitter - (someone tweets a link to a torrent site)
-Bungie.net - Someone in The Flood makes a thread about Pirate Bay and links to it. the thread is discovered before any ban is issued.

OT: I fully support a Bungie switch-over.

Edit: And to anyone suggesting that Bungie just take the "conscientious objector" route... that's not really an option. It's a debate that the entirety of the Internet (well, from the US's standpoint) has been thrust into and if you enjoy almost ANY website on the internet, then you're almost forced to take a side (as long as you're presently aware of the SOPA situation... which you should be).

[Edited on 01.05.2012 3:11 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 3:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Edit: And to anyone suggesting that Bungie just take the "conscientious objector" route... that's not really an option. It's a debate that the entirety of the Internet (well, from the US's standpoint) has been thrust into and if you enjoy almost ANY website on the internet, then you're almost forced to take a side (as long as you're presently aware of the SOPA situation... which you should be).

To be honest it's quite shocking the lack of Americans that know about SOPA or that actually care about it. I'm English and I've found that I'm fighting more for your rights than 90% of Americans.

  • 01.05.2012 3:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: ApocalypeX
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Edit: And to anyone suggesting that Bungie just take the "conscientious objector" route... that's not really an option. It's a debate that the entirety of the Internet (well, from the US's standpoint) has been thrust into and if you enjoy almost ANY website on the internet, then you're almost forced to take a side (as long as you're presently aware of the SOPA situation... which you should be).

To be honest it's quite shocking the lack of Americans that know about SOPA or that actually care about it. I'm English and I've found that I'm fighting more for your rights than 90% of Americans.
It's mainly because Americans (and yes, I am one) as a population don't like to be bothered with foreign affairs, international incidents, or any US politics outside of "do I or don't I like Obama". They effectively ignore these issues by not paying attention to anything that every happens ever (ever).

But that's getting pretty political. The main point is, at this point, Bungie definitely knows the facts on the bill to the extent that they should be able to make an informed (public) decision on the matter. (IMHO)

  • 01.05.2012 3:18 AM PDT

I wish. The idiots I know just yell "DERP DERP I HATE OBAMA HE BAD PRES" and when I ask them to elaborate they cannot.
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"do I or don't I like Obama"

  • 01.05.2012 3:25 AM PDT
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If it were feasible, I would prompt Bungie to hold an election of the community members to satisfy their decision choice. However, I can see two things happening, and both won't be with an election.

Bungie shall either vote for or against SOPA. If the latter, there will be no significant consequences. If however the former, I foresee a sudden loss in business.

It pains me to say such a thing indeed, however it is but an apparition that I see.

  • 01.05.2012 3:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: prometheus25
I'm confident that, even if SOPA is passed, it'd end up being ruled as unconstitutional in a few years time.
A few YEARS?! In that time they'll have shut down:

-YouTube - (Video on how to jailbreak iPhone 4s links to a site about Cydia... which can be used to pirate almost anything on the iPhone/iTouch.
-Facebook (someone is invited to a private torrent site and wants to invite their friend on facebook so he puts a link to it on said friend's wall)
-Google - (search results contains link to something that has an article that links to a site that has a free download of ONE thing that is pirated [yes... that's a way this bill/law can and will work])
-Yahoo - (same as google)
-Bing - (same as yahoo only it's funnier cause no one uses Bing)
-Wikipedia - (one -blam!- links off-site in one article to something that happens to be pirated)
-Twitter - (someone tweets a link to a torrent site)
-Bungie.net - Someone in The Flood makes a thread about Pirate Bay and links to it. the thread is discovered before any ban is issued.

OT: I fully support a Bungie switch-over.

Edit: And to anyone suggesting that Bungie just take the "conscientious objector" route... that's not really an option. It's a debate that the entirety of the Internet (well, from the US's standpoint) has been thrust into and if you enjoy almost ANY website on the internet, then you're almost forced to take a side (as long as you're presently aware of the SOPA situation... which you should be).
Most of SOPA does not apply to any domestic websites, so you're wrong on almost all counts. The only thing SOPA requires any domestic website to do is for search engines to de-index websites that have violated it, so there's some risk there for those search engines, just not quite in the way you mentioned.

The reason you're supposed to be mad at GoDaddy is specifically because of the exemption for domestic websites. As the biggest domain name registrar in the US, it would only solidify their near-monopoly.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 4:21 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 4:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Maybe they don't want to get involved for PR reasons?

But, honestly, I don't see how it could negatively affect their image and if it did, they could just move their domains discreetly. They definitely should do it though.

  • 01.05.2012 4:19 AM PDT

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- Dawes, A little bit of everything

It is their decision. I'm sticking with GoDaddy because they've been good to me as a customer and I don't see SOPA/PIPA actually going very far due to all the negative press and large corporations that are against it. It would, however, be nice if they hadn't supported SOPA and didn't support PIPA.

  • 01.05.2012 4:21 AM PDT

Search engines have to de-index sites that violate the law? That... why...
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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: prometheus25
I'm confident that, even if SOPA is passed, it'd end up being ruled as unconstitutional in a few years time.
A few YEARS?! In that time they'll have shut down:

-YouTube - (Video on how to jailbreak iPhone 4s links to a site about Cydia... which can be used to pirate almost anything on the iPhone/iTouch.
-Facebook (someone is invited to a private torrent site and wants to invite their friend on facebook so he puts a link to it on said friend's wall)
-Google - (search results contains link to something that has an article that links to a site that has a free download of ONE thing that is pirated [yes... that's a way this bill/law can and will work])
-Yahoo - (same as google)
-Bing - (same as yahoo only it's funnier cause no one uses Bing)
-Wikipedia - (one -blam!- links off-site in one article to something that happens to be pirated)
-Twitter - (someone tweets a link to a torrent site)
-Bungie.net - Someone in The Flood makes a thread about Pirate Bay and links to it. the thread is discovered before any ban is issued.

OT: I fully support a Bungie switch-over.

Edit: And to anyone suggesting that Bungie just take the "conscientious objector" route... that's not really an option. It's a debate that the entirety of the Internet (well, from the US's standpoint) has been thrust into and if you enjoy almost ANY website on the internet, then you're almost forced to take a side (as long as you're presently aware of the SOPA situation... which you should be).
Most of SOPA does not apply to any domestic websites, so you're wrong on almost all counts. The only thing SOPA requires any domestic website to do is for search engines to de-index websites that have violated it, so there's some risk there for those search engines, just not quite in the way you mentioned.

The reason you're supposed to be mad at GoDaddy is specifically because of the exemption for domestic websites. As the biggest domain name registrar in the US, it would only solidify their near-monopoly.

  • 01.05.2012 4:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: ctjl96
Search engines have to de-index sites that violate the law? That... why...
Yeah, that's the part where the censorship comes in, really. That's the part of it I hate. They get a notice, then have 5 days to remove the offending website. There are similar provisions for payment providers and ad servers. Payment processors have to block payments between the US and the offending sites, and ad servers can't advertise the offending sites.

But again, nothing B.net (as an example) does can violate SOPA.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 4:43 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 4:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: Zealot Tony
Why would SOPA shut down a site based on what a user posts in a thread? Does the site actually get "prosecuted" despite having no control over a specific user posting copyrighted third party material?

EDIT: Oops, you meant after SOPA. Disregard that comment then.

Also, since it hasn't been said...

What is mcnielsen.com? It is related to Bungie.net, bungiestore.com, and a few other Bungie sites, but doesn't seem to go anywhere.

Same for bungi.com

[Edited on 01.05.2012 4:54 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 4:44 AM PDT

@spawn031

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If the bill is passed and Bungie doesn't switch, it would be much easier for Bungie to make it impossible to even post links to external material. They can't trust anyone.

  • 01.05.2012 4:53 AM PDT
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Why are you reading my signature? Who actually opens these things and reads them!

And as always, SEND ME A PM. Please. Or really bad things will happen to you.

I don't know if you guys know this or not, but I feel like it's important. SOPA will only give the US government the power to censor domain names, which to many of you sounds A LOT like censoring the internet, but it's not. If you know a websites IP address you will still be able to connect to the server. SOPA works through the ISP and the DNS-lookups and doesn't block actual IPs. If some jerk in the flood posts a link to the pirate bay all you have to do is type 66.62.238.10 instead of "Bungie.net". Try it, it works.

Also, this bill is crazy unconstitutional and hopefully other people realize this and it will get overturned shortly after being instituted. But, if for some reason it doesn't and we are left hiding from the all powerful internet censoring government all we have to do is maintain a list of IP addresses to our favorite sites.

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  • 01.05.2012 5:45 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Posted by: ApocalypeX
NoDaddy
Sounds pretty rapist like.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 5:48 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2012 5:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: acnboy34
I don't think they care enough to get entwined in political affairs.

Also, does transferring domains cost money (how much; where to)?


I think they do. Cause at any one point the government can ban bungie.net

  • 01.05.2012 5:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pogo947
Posted by: acnboy34
I don't think they care enough to get entwined in political affairs.

Also, does transferring domains cost money (how much; where to)?


I think they do. Cause at any one point the government can ban bungie.net
Since Bungie is a domestic site that is not a search engine, ad server, or payment processor, no, they can't. There's no part of SOPA that applies to them.

SOPA sucks for a bunch of reasons, but that isn't one of them.

  • 01.05.2012 5:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: prometheus25
I'm confident that, even if SOPA is passed, it'd end up being ruled as unconstitutional in a few years time.
Exactly. I would still change registrars, just to be safe.


Of course. Nothing speaks louder than the American Dollar.

Except the Euro.

And most other currencies nowadays.


The Pound is really high right now.

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Posted by: antidope671
WTF is a SOPA? I know what a sopaipilla is, and it's delicious.
Have you used the internet in the past 6 months?

  • 01.05.2012 7:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: ApocalypeX
MLG just moved over 100 domains from GoDaddy

Now it's your move Bungie.
Haha. At the bottom of this article there is a GoDaddy add.

  • 01.05.2012 7:32 AM PDT

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A few things that should be pointed out:

Although SOPA's language is so vague that it is theoretically possible it could possibly effect large domestic sites like Facebook, Youtube, etc., the chances of that happening are slim to none, and it is not the bills intent.

Large domestic sites like Youtube, Google, and Facebook are already subject to the DMCA that covers pirated material within the US jurisdiction. The major concern of those large sites is that the bill is so poorly written that is not clear if it will supersede safe harbor clauses in the DMCA that provides them legal protection from any criminal activities of users on their sites.

The bill's actual intent is aimed at foreign sites hosting pirated material. The problem is, the US has no jurisdiction over the offenders, so the bill instead creates a government controlled firewall into all US DNS servers that blocks access to those sites inside the untied states. That is a terrible idea for more reasons than I care to explain. I only need one reason to hate this bill:

If SOPA were to pass, every single time I put a web address in my browser, the DNS server will have to check with the US government to see if I have permission to go there or not. This sets an extremely dangerous precedent. This bill does nothing to the actual offenders, it censors American internet so it will be slightly harder to get to those sites.

Bungie's current publisher, Activision, supports SOPA. I doubt Bungie would make any public stance against it.

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  • 01.05.2012 7:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
. . . Large domestic sites like Youtube, Google, and Facebook are already subject to the DMCA that covers pirated material within the US jurisdiction. The major concern of those large sites is that the bill is so poorly written that is not clear if it will supersede safe harbor clauses in the DMCA that provides them legal protection from any criminal activities of users on their sites . . .
In your opinion, what part of it is vague or poorly written in that regard?

  • 01.05.2012 7:56 AM PDT

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Uh, you do know Go Daddy dropped all support from SOPA right?

And from Marty;s Twitter:

I'm confused. If I'm against SOPA does that mean I'm in favor of online piracy?
'cuz I'm against online piracy (just for the record). But I'm also against ham-fisted government intrusions into my life.

I am not sure if Bungie wants to get publicly involved but I know many companies are dropping support.

Go Daddy did a while ago as did Disney and some other companies recently.

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  • 01.05.2012 7:58 AM PDT

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I don't think one video game company's website will be noticed if they switch from GoDaddy.

I'm against SOPA purely because it will be possible for a company to get a competitor's website shut down unjustly.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 8:10 AM PST]

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