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In the second installment of the Forerunner Trilogy, it is revealed that there is a connection between 343 Guilty Spark and Chakas. When 343i took the helm of Halo they explained that all pieces of Halo Canon would intertwine together. I could not wait to see what they had in store. Thankfully, Primordium fits together with other Halo Canon like a puzzle piece like they said would happen.


The biggest connection I found was a connection that can confirm wholly that Chakas is 343 Guilty Spark AND how Chakas got to the state of being obsessed with his Installation.

In the second Terminal I found this:

" 'I am experiencing such a mixture of anticipation and dread. All preparations are complete for my installation. In accordance with the final dictum of the Ecumene Council, I have released myself of all remaining connections to my former station.' "

Upon first hearing this I was confused and interested on the history of 343, because I had originally thought he was created for the purpose of Installation 04.
However, with the release of Primordium and the apparent fact that Chakas was turned into 343, I realized that this is completely confirmed. When 343 talks about his "former station" I could only guess that he was still Chakas before that time.

Now, the reason why his personality went under such a massive change is that the job of monitoring a Halo must be VERY secret. Therefore, he needed to erase all traces of his original Human personality.

How did his Human personality and memories get to this ruined data core in Primordium if he eliminated his Human side?

Well, based on the part of the book where Chakas said he didn't want his Geas to take over, I pieced together the fact that he still wanted to preserve his humanity and therefore sent his Human side to this data box.


I think this theory fits together pretty good, what do you guys think?





[Edited on 01.05.2012 5:30 PM PST]

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I think Chakas may be 049 Abject Testament, due to the presence of the ONI team. It was revealed in Glasslands that they found Installation 03, and he was the monitor for that ring.

Just a quick thought, I am halfway through Primordium.
Never mind, I just jumped to a wrong conclusion...

[Edited on 01.05.2012 3:47 PM PST]

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Posted by: Quantam
I think Chakas may be 049 Abject Testament, due to the presence of the ONI team. It was revealed in Glasslands that they found Installation 03, and he was the monitor for that ring.

Just a quick thought, I am halfway through Primordium.
I don't mean to spoil much more for you but the ONI team identifies the voice of the Moniter as 343GS.

This is some interesting speculation though.

[Edited on 01.05.2012 3:44 PM PST]

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Posted by: Quantam
I think Chakas may be 049 Abject Testament, due to the presence of the ONI team. It was revealed in Glasslands that they found Installation 03, and he was the monitor for that ring.

Just a quick thought, I am halfway through Primordium.
I don't mean to spoil much more for you but the ONI team identifies the voice of the Moniter as 343GS.

This is some interesting speculation though.


I see. But what was his store doing on Installation 03? Or another installation? Maybe ONI found another one...
Perhaps they found it on an installation and moved it to the infinity...

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Yes, I also believe that they are aboard Infinity, because if they are, it confirms Infinity's relationship in Halo 4.

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Posted by: Sigma617
Impossible and ridiculous.


At what point was Spark ever recovered by ONI?

Spark seems surprised when he encounters reclaimers. You'd think he wouldn't be if he were one himself at some point.

Even if he were chakas and was able to forget, how could he have such a drastic personality change in time to speak with the ONI team? Furthermore, there is no space open for him to meet any ONI Teams before or after the Halo Incident.

The Chakas Monitor even states his installation of duty as being: Halo/Shield Alliance 631.

It is abundantly clear that this is not Guilty Spark.

The object narrated the whole story. It revealed itself as 343GS at the end. It is 343GS, or it is lying to us.

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It is true though. At the end of Primordium, ONI identifies the voice as 343GS.

Also, if you read my theory, you would understand the personality changes.

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There is more than one 343 ga sigma, his personality was split

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Posted by: Kyle 312
There is more than one 343 ga sigma, his personality was split


Whatever that means, I hope to god it's true.

Because if Chakas is Spark, then that is an incredibly retarded move on 343's part.
It's not a stupid move if you would actually read my theory as to understand how "343" is still alive. It isn't even safe to call him 343. It just says his voice is ID'd as 343GS, meaning that they were the same.

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Posted by: Kyle 312
There is more than one 343 ga sigma, his personality was split
I don't understand at all what you're saying.

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People are already forgetting that just a part of Chakas is 343 Guilty Spark.

343 Guilty Spark is Chakas, but not all of Chakas is 343 Guilty Spark.

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Yes and if they actually read my theory they would understand this.

I hate when people just blindly comment.

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