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Subject: So heroic difficulty= canon

Is heroic difficulty is as close as we can get to canon.

  • 01.06.2012 2:00 AM PDT

I assume yes but many people here thinks it's a mix.

In the end there is no real GAMEPLAY canon and even descriptions in the books are sketchy about shield strength and the damage dealt by weapons.

You just have to make up your own mind but I'll always stick to heroic.

  • 01.06.2012 2:06 AM PDT

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Honestly, I want to agree, but at the same time I want to say LASO is closer (Well without black eye/fog). I'd say it's some kind of a mix.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 2:10 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 2:10 AM PDT

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Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.

  • 01.06.2012 3:57 AM PDT

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According to Canon UNSC forces usually do well once they're on the ground against the Covenant but on any difficulty in the games Marines get hammered by Grunts.

Gameplay is a poor reflection of Canon IMO.

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Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...


I found Halo 2 and Halo Wars quite difficult in the past 10 years.

  • 01.06.2012 5:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

Sorry Grey but have you played Halo Wars on Leg?

OT Heroic is the way the GAME is supposed to be played, cannon is far harder to evaluate. The first time the Cheif ran into an Elite in the Fall of Reach it took four sniper shots for Linda to kill it.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 6:02 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 6:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...
Halo 2 Jackal snipers.

Shut up, grey!

  • 01.06.2012 6:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

Like those above me pointed out, have you played Halo 2 on Legendary? Jackal Snipers... Halo Wars is another. It gets pretty ridiculous. Just play it you'll see. And they say Halo 3 on Legendary is like Halo: CE on Normal. So, HCEA is also quite difficult. There's no denying it.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...[/quote]
Like those above me pointed out, have you played Halo 2 on Legendary? [/quote]

I feel like that is a stupid question to even ask me since i am always berating people for playing on easy and not playing the games.


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Posted by: grey101
Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...
Halo 2 Jackal snipers.

Shut up, grey!


Weren't even as bad as people make them out to be. If you used other means to snoop them out other than being an idiot and sticking your head out you would have been fine.

The hardest part was cario station, which i can now do in about 10-15 mins.


Posted by: wcd45

Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

Sorry Grey but have you played Halo Wars on Leg?



If you played any other RTS game before halowars on "legendary" then it wouldn't have been new to you. not to mention "slow down and DO NOT RUSH" always helps.

  • 01.06.2012 7:29 AM PDT

Its more like legendary difficulty but with easy level health pools (except for hunters, perhaps), and normal or heroic lvl weapon dmg.

Therfore we have maximum AI "cleverness", maximum elite shields, but grunts jackals and stuff die relatively easy.

  • 01.06.2012 8:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
According to Canon UNSC forces usually do well once they're on the ground against the Covenant but on any difficulty in the games Marines get hammered by Grunts.

Gameplay is a poor reflection of Canon IMO.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
Games are highest tier of canon If anything the novels are wrong.
Posted by: I Judge Bread I
According to Canon UNSC forces usually do well once they're on the ground against the Covenant but on any difficulty in the games Marines get hammered by Grunts.

Gameplay is a poor reflection of Canon IMO.


That was the old policy and gameplay isn't canon.

  • 01.06.2012 9:06 AM PDT

Game story in halo I've been told undermines all canon unless bungie says so but game-play is not canon also canon would be closer to legendary but probably more powerful. cmon there using superheated plasma based weaponry

  • 01.06.2012 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

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Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

Oh come on Grey, Halo2 legendary was complete bull-honkey!
Other wise yes, legendary really wasn't that difficult.

  • 01.06.2012 9:20 AM PDT

Gameplay really doesn't reflect canon in many ways.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
Games are highest tier of canon If anything the novels are wrong.
Posted by: I Judge Bread I
According to Canon UNSC forces usually do well once they're on the ground against the Covenant but on any difficulty in the games Marines get hammered by Grunts.

Gameplay is a poor reflection of Canon IMO.

  • 01.06.2012 9:48 AM PDT


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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Yes, normal is too easy and legendary is a bit too strong therefore Heroic is the canon way to go. They're strong on Heroic, but not ridiculous like Legendary.


Legendary hasn't been difficult for nearly ten years...

Oh come on Grey, Halo2 legendary was complete bull-honkey!
Other wise yes, legendary really wasn't that difficult.


I've found the Halo 2 Jackal snipers to just be unfair on Legendary. Regardless of what anyone says, I was playing Outskirts on Leg. a day or so ago; you simply cannot outshoot them. They kill you so fast, one of the Jackals didn't even appear to turn his head. I was dead before he actually looked at me.

It's like they all have aim assist.

  • 01.06.2012 9:49 AM PDT

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It's the closest thing to, but not really.

Marines wouldn't be able to stand about 9423669541 plasma shots before going down, for instance.

  • 01.06.2012 10:07 AM PDT

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I seriously dont understand why people say Cairo Station is so hard.

You want hard, play the start of Gravemind on Legendary.

  • 01.06.2012 10:27 AM PDT

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No difficulty represents canon well at all.

Easy is self explanatory.

Normal is good in terms of how many bullets it takes to kill Grunts and Jackals, but shield strength of Spartans is too resilient.

Heroic, shield strength is more accurate, but Grunts would not take half a clip from an AR to kill.

Legendary, shield strength could be seen as realistic, but then again, the difficulty overall is not because Spartans could hold their own in hand to hand with Elites, but that is impossible in-game.

  • 01.06.2012 1:42 PM PDT

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  • 01.06.2012 3:18 PM PDT
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Halo Wars wasn't THAT bad on Legendary. I hadn't spent much time with any RTS games since the first Starcraft, but I still beat Wars on Legendary. Had SOME frustrations, but it wasn't THAT bad.

Halo 2 on the other hand.... although that IS getting near 10 year old now, so grey's point could still stand there.

  • 01.06.2012 4:03 PM PDT

I imagine the damage you do in normal is similar to the books and the damage you take in heroic/legendary is similar to the books so it's like a horrible mixture of all three. But not easy, nobody likes easy XD

  • 01.06.2012 4:13 PM PDT

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