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Subject: Howabout a post limit?
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

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Kind of like the limit we have for threads per day.

It is argued that we don't need more than 7 threads per day because (and I paraphrase) 'if one is posting that many threads then there is no way that you can be putting any real thought into it'

In a similar vein, I suggest limiting posts to 20 per day or so. Let's face it, if people had to think about whether what they are posting is really worth it, then there'd be a hell of a lot less of whatever today's rage topic du jour is. I can only see people being forced to improve their posting style to include more killer and less filler.


Obviously, the can be tiered by title bar. (not out of any sense of elitism, but rather because it is the only metric really available). And add bonuses for honourable / exalted...
Make bans much more painful than the simple time-out period.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:16 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:09 AM PDT

LOLNO

Jesus Christ, why do people suggest these stupid tweaks? Sorry for being so blunt, but this isn't any different from any other forum, really. Forums don't usually have post limits. We don't need one at all. I don't see it as a problem.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:16 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:12 AM PDT

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  • 01.06.2012 3:18 AM PDT
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

Jesus Christ has been displaying remarkable reticence recently, so I'm going to assume that he isn't going to answer your question. Possibly a bit presumptuous of me, but I will try to answer in his stead:

Well, I wander through places, and I see redundant posts everywhere. People who post to tell us to report and move on, people who post simply to quote another person without adding anything, people who post mindless memes that add nothing.

Increasing the value of each post will add incentive to make it mean something, rather than wasting it on "hey OP, I'm clicking on the link and it isn't working".

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:27 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:21 AM PDT

Hahahahahaha. You made me laugh. :P

'Presumptious' isn't a word. ucwutididthar
Posted by: Telec
Jesus Christ has been displaying remarkable reticence recently, so I'm going to assume that he isn't going to answer your question. Possibly a bit presumptious of me, but I will try to answer in his stead:

Well, I wander through places, and I see redundant posts everywhere. People who post to tell us to report and move on, people who post simply to quote another person without adding anything, people who post mindless memes that add nothing.

Increasing the value of each post will add incentive to make it mean something, rather than wasting it on "hey OP, I'm clicking on the link and it isn't working".

  • 01.06.2012 3:23 AM PDT
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

Posted by: ctjl96
'Presumptious' isn't a word. ucwutididthar
You called out a typo. Many congratulations, have a sticker.

  • 01.06.2012 3:29 AM PDT

The amount of content you can contribute to the community should be tied to how much you can be trusted.

At the moment, the above is typically either a "yes, go ahead and post as much as you want", or "nope, nothing; you're blacklisted". I would much rather see a post limit as a variable which moves according to your amount of trust. The more you behave, the more opportunity you have to contribute, and vice-versa.

Without going off on a tangent... again, privileges.

  • 01.06.2012 3:31 AM PDT

I was kidding. It was ironic.
Posted by: Telec
Posted by: ctjl96
'Presumptious' isn't a word. ucwutididthar
You called out a typo. Many congratulations, have a sticker.


@Daz: Meh. The only reason I don't want it is because it would affect me, to be honest. I could argue on both sides.

  • 01.06.2012 3:33 AM PDT
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13.72 billion years in the making.

On December 1st, 2012, I met Neil deGrasse Tyson. I shook the man's hand, and even made him laugh. Not much else to do with my life now.

Twenty per day?

Nope. No limit is fine with me.

  • 01.06.2012 3:44 AM PDT

Key

I'm in favor of this. Especially daz's suggestion of your ability to post being based on your trust rating. Maybe it'd make some of the normies think before they make 15 one word posts a day that contribute nothing.

  • 01.06.2012 3:58 AM PDT
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There are just too many flaws with that idea. I plainly disagree with everything about it from the problem to the way you plan on solving the "problem".

I'd like to just point out one... hole: Multi-accounters.

  • 01.06.2012 4:07 AM PDT
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

Posted by: Izak609
I'd like to just point out one... hole: Multi-accounters.
I propose that ninjas stop banning people, because they'll just make a second account and continue as before.

  • 01.06.2012 4:12 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

So kind of like Yahoo Answers then? You start with so many posts per day and as you build up trust you're allowed more? It could work but I see multi accounts on the horizon.

  • 01.06.2012 4:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: Telec
Well, I wander through places, and I see redundant posts everywhere. People who post to tell us to report and move on, people who post simply to quote another person without adding anything, people who post mindless memes that add nothing.
That doesn't mean that everyone who had more than 20 posts per day makes redundant and spam replies. This would penalize those who actually put thought in all of their posts for something people who have 50+ PPD did. This would probably just call for more alts to bypass the filter or inactivity in the mains because everyone stays in private chapters. I say if people want to post in a thread, then let them post. If they want to make redundant replies then so be it, just ignore them.

  • 01.06.2012 4:46 AM PDT

No to this, and no to the idea of a higher limit for people with higher titles.

  • 01.06.2012 4:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: burritosenior
No to this, and no to the idea of a higher limit for people with higher titles.


Agreed, there are plenty of people without high titles who contribute greatly to bungie.net, i think the current system works fine, i just think the moderators need to be a little harsher on users who constantly make off topic or pointless remarks.

  • 01.06.2012 4:53 AM PDT

This, however, I agree with.
Posted by: da bomb drop

Posted by: burritosenior
No to this, and no to the idea of a higher limit for people with higher titles.


Agreed, there are plenty of people without high titles who contribute greatly to bungie.net, i think the current system works fine, i just think the moderators need to be a little harsher on users who constantly make off topic or pointless remarks.

@trust value idea: What ED said; trust value meaning ban history, I presume. Lol, I could be considered of less value 'cause I was confused and posted threads in the wrong forum? That'd be some -blam!-. Not to mention the fact that ban appeals have no effect on titles and accidental/unjust bans could foil this idea quickly.

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  • 01.06.2012 4:54 AM PDT

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Isn't there a post limit? I remember one of my Memberfriends hitting it while Halo 3 was still in the pipe. At least I think I do. It's a pretty high number if I'm remembering correctly.

  • 01.06.2012 5:05 AM PDT


Posted by: The Sage Of Halo
Isn't there a post limit? I remember one of my Memberfriends hitting it while Halo 3 was still in the pipe. At least I think I do. It's a pretty high number if I'm remembering correctly.
There's a thread creation limit, but no post limit. I'm fairly confident I've gone into triple digits a few times.

  • 01.06.2012 5:11 AM PDT
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No. I do not want a situation in an online forum where I'm forced to decide "should I post in this thread, or conserve my post for something else."

  • 01.06.2012 5:27 AM PDT
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Whoo.

Posted by: Izak609
I'd like to just point out one... hole: Multi-accounters.
Well make it so you gain trust the most you post/the longer time you post without getting banned.

For instance day one you can only post ten or so times, day two about twelve, you use all of day two's posts and not get banned about sixteen and so on.


The other thing is multi-accounters already exist, now you'll just make it so they'll not only get banned but they can only spam a certain threashold a day, limiting their capabilities.
Posted by: ctjl96
Lol, I could be considered of less value 'cause I was confused and posted threads in the wrong forum?
Well if you do it several times a day then yeah, it's hard to get confused that often.Posted by: ctjl96
accidental/unjust bans could foil this idea quickly.
If they happened every five minutes maybe, but I have a feeling that accidental/unjust bans aren't that common, plus if they're reworking the system they could have it so there's a appeal button to bans rather than just a remove that strikes the ban from the record.
Posted by: da bomb drop
Agreed, there are plenty of people without high titles who contribute greatly to bungie.net,
The idea isn't to say that higher titled members are the only ones who make quality posts, it's to say that higher titled members are the most trusted to make non-rule breaking posts, because they've "proved" themselves.

Ok let's say I was super paranoid that the barber would cut off my ear while cutting my hair, now there's this barber who's been cutting my hair for years and I trusted him because he hasn't cut off my ear yet, but there's also a new girl that needs to get some experience cutting hair now given the choice of who I would trust to cut my hair I'd go for the guy who's been cutting it for years.

Now the girl could be exceptionally competant, but I don't know this girl, I've never seen her cut hair, I can't be sure if she won't cut my ear off at any point.



Now, my opinion.
I like the concept, newer members tend to obsess and post too much rather often, to the point where it would actually be doing them a favour to prevent them from posting past a certain threashold. (I know this from experience.)

They also just want to post, which means without a limit they'll just go into any thread and post any random comment related to the topic without there necessarily being any value to that comment.

Plus with the limitation of post count when a ban is dished out it'll give them even more incentive not to break the rules, given how much they love posting, not to mention that with the initial limit they'll probably avoid more of the flaming arguments not to waste their precious posts.



ALL that being said, I don't think this'll work.
Or, if it does work, it has a high probability of having a unforeseen "site ruining" feature.

It's just too theoretical to see how it'll pan out.

  • 01.06.2012 5:49 AM PDT

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The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

As you waste your breath complaining about life, Someone out there is breathing their last. Appreciate what you have.

If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.

No.


If one person is only on here for an hour a day but another person likes being here for several hours, they shouldn't feel restricted and should be able to take part in any topic that catches their interest.

People would be worried about holding actual discussions and threads would just be full of people stating things once rather then talking to each other about it. It would become a bulletin board rather then a forum.

  • 01.06.2012 5:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: urk
Then there are the people who poop in the mash potatoes. Those people get launched out on their asses.

You would basically be restricting access to the forums.

What about when Bungie announces a new game? Now you can only post 20 time, and then it's over. Time to walk away.

If this was the case, I would personally leave.

  • 01.06.2012 5:59 AM PDT

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Like Izak said.... Multi accounters. So no.

  • 01.06.2012 6:01 AM PDT