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Subject: Weapons and Vehicle Ideas - Simplicity Makes This Game
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I keep seeing a bunch of posts (some of which I agree with) about new ideas for Halo 3. But I mean how fun would it really be if Bungie made SO many options. I can see the anger online now: You're playing Assault, and the entire team piles into a Pelican and just flys over to the other base and ravages the other team. I really agree with bringing the pistol back to replace that excuse for a pistol in Halo 2. I think the zoom is the thing everyone liked, but its power should be leveled down just a little. I remember in CE I could take someone out from across the map with 4 accurate shots. Id hate to see H3's multiplayer turn into a pistol fest. I also REALLY like the idea of a Covie shotgun as posted in another thread below. Maybe some new human vehicles, but I just dont know about all of these posts that are like: "Lets make a jetpack" or "Lets make it so you can call in an airstrike" Maybe it'd be fun, but theres not a lot of thought in calling in an airstrike or just flying around. The thing I like about this game is it forces me to think. Keep in mind im absolutely not opposed to anyones ideas, I'm just trying to fast forward and put the controller in my hand and wonder if itd actually be fun. Thoughts?

  • 05.12.2006 7:06 AM PDT

They should probably make the pistol a tiny bit stronger, but it shouldn't be like It was in Halo. Back in Halo, there was no need for the shotgun, the AR or the sniper. Why? You got the zoom, the fire power and a fairly fast shooting rate with the pistol.

IMO, They should keep the pistol a sidearm, but just make it a bit stronger so that you can actually defend yourself with it.

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  • 05.12.2006 7:15 AM PDT
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Right, it would just destroy all other weapons if the rounds were as strong as they were in CE

  • 05.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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I remember the time I was kidnapped and they sent a piece of my finger to my father. He said he wanted more proof.

I think we're goin to break a record here.......I'm in total areement with both of you. A blend of a pistol from the CE and H2 would be nice. And all this talk about jet packs and airstrikes would just be over the top and take away from the feel of HALO. What makes the game great is that its free from gimmicks. With that said, there sould aslo be some improvements and additions. A cov shotty sounds pretty sweet. What about weapons with secondary functions? For example, allowing the needler to blast out all the needles at once similar to a shotgun. Or an AR with a grenade launcher.

  • 05.12.2006 7:27 AM PDT
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wish list for halo3!!!

1.human jet that can have you and a marine in the cockpit with missles and machineguns!!!

2. you can fly the pelican in multiplayer and campaign

3.scarab gun and fuel rod cannon in multiplayer

4.bring back the pistol and assault rifle

5.throwing nifes

6.bring back all the multiplayer levels in halo and halo2 plus new onesand deffinetly upgrade coagulation again!!!

7.double swords

8.FLAMETHROWER!!!!!!!

9.you can be a marine a grunt a brute and drones and other stuff in multiplayer

  • 05.12.2006 7:27 AM PDT

I agree, keep it simple and elegant, the way it has been before. I don't agree about a covenant shotgun, wtf do they need one for when they have the plasma sword? But you're right about everything else I think. Simplicity is paramount.

  • 05.12.2006 7:35 AM PDT
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just got an idea double shotguns!!!!!!!!

  • 05.12.2006 7:39 AM PDT

Posted by: generalblackbird
just got an idea double shotguns!!!!!!!!


WOW they should make you head designer!

  • 05.12.2006 7:40 AM PDT


Although simplicity is fairly important for Halo, I do hope we get to see those different version of warthogs...Like the troop transport and ice warthog.

What they could do for that is to make some vechicals exclusive to certain maps, like obivously the Ice warthog to ice maps and the troop transport Warthog for games with 32 players or so.

  • 05.12.2006 7:41 AM PDT

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  • 05.12.2006 7:42 AM PDT
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evn better double worthog turrets!!!!!!

  • 05.12.2006 7:43 AM PDT
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the constantly stated and often used idea of having a covie/human weapon pairing doesn't work for me. I makes both sides essentially the same. The covenant are vastly different that the humans, and their weapons should reflect that. The original two plasma weapons in H:CE were different, and still are. The beam rifle and the carbine seem a little too similar to their human alternatives (I doubt the advanced aliens would copy anything we made). A covenant shotgun would make the covenant even more human. It'd be cool if in Halo 3 the covenant seemed more alien, spoke in the alien tongues more and used stranger weapons.

  • 05.12.2006 7:46 AM PDT
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one can be machine gun and one can be that gernade launcher

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emp grenades a vehicle big enough to have 2 gunners....and the ability to perform arakiri when you lose!

  • 05.12.2006 7:49 AM PDT
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im sorry but what is arakiri????

  • 05.12.2006 7:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Harlequin
the constantly stated and often used idea of having a covie/human weapon pairing doesn't work for me. I makes both sides essentially the same. The covenant are vastly different that the humans, and their weapons should reflect that. The original two plasma weapons in H:CE were different, and still are. The beam rifle and the carbine seem a little too similar to their human alternatives (I doubt the advanced aliens would copy anything we made). A covenant shotgun would make the covenant even more human. It'd be cool if in Halo 3 the covenant seemed more alien, spoke in the alien tongues more and used stranger weapons.


I totally agree. It'd be nice if the weapons were genuinely different. The beam rifle and carbine are just direct equivalents of their human counterparts. Just as an example, you could combine the two - it could be a mid- to long-range weapon with a 5x scope, which could overheat like the beam rifle but fire quickly like the carbine, it would beat the BR at long range and beat the sniper at shorter range, but outside it's particular area it would lose to both those guns. It would also have just a long enough range for jackals to snipe with in campaign (if it was needed....!) That's just a random example of something which could be done in theory, obviously it'd need more thought.

  • 05.12.2006 7:54 AM PDT
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Japanese suicide where you stab your self in the stomach with a dager and cut it open and have someone cut your head off its supposed to preserve your honor

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  • 05.12.2006 7:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: El Leone

Although simplicity is fairly important for Halo, I do hope we get to see those different version of warthogs...Like the troop transport and ice warthog.

What they could do for that is to make some vechicals exclusive to certain maps, like obivously the Ice warthog to ice maps and the troop transport Warthog for games with 32 players or so.


Since Halo 3 is going to take place on Earth and have you fight in different locations, they probably will have different versions of the warthog for the different terrains.

  • 05.12.2006 7:56 AM PDT
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dood thats disgusting viscious!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.12.2006 7:58 AM PDT
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maybe they should make a lightning cannon for the aliens!!!!!

  • 05.12.2006 8:02 AM PDT
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what would you guys do the first thing you started flying the pelican

  • 05.12.2006 8:06 AM PDT
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i would rather see a modified needler that basicly was a shotty it fired all its needles at once or of some sort

  • 05.12.2006 8:09 AM PDT
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I think they should bring the Halo:CE pistol back. They could even have it just as powerful as they did if they wanted to. I just think it should function more like a real life pistol. If any of you have ever shot a pistol in real life, you'll know that they are extremely inacurate. Because of the shorter barrel they are prone to deviate from the intended path by a considerable amount compared to any rifle. If they do bring the pistol back and it's still quite powerful, they should make it pretty inaccurate like its real life counterpart. Yet, if they opt for the toned-down pistol like the Magnum, they should still make it powerful enough to be useful on its own; unlike the Magnum of H2.

As for Covenant weapons, I think they should seem more foreign than they do now. They also shouldn't seem like copies of the human weapons. It gets redundant when you have so many weapons that are alike. There really isn't any difference between the human weapons and Covenant weapons, other than the latter does more damage to the shields than the former. I'm against a Covenant shotgun replication. However, the same effect could be accomplished in a different way. Bungie could still have a shortrange weapon for the Covenant; but instead of a spread of bolts, they could have the weapon that shoots plasma strands (not the best idea, but I thought I'd offer something) that exit the barrel perpendicular in orientation in relation to the direction that the gun is aimed. Not firing perpendicular, but oriented perpendicularly. Bungie just needs to get a little creative with it and remember that the Covenant come from an entirely different background and, thus, have had different needs for their weapons making them very different from our own. They should not just be BRs in disguise or SMGs with a simple skin change. They need to be unique and operate in a considerably different way than that of the human weapons (yet not ubsurdly). Sure, some weapons can and should be comperable to the human weapons, but not all of them.

i would rather see a modified needler that basicly was a shotty it fired all its needles at once or of some sort
Not a bad idea.

(These are the most words I've said in a long time. I need to take a nap or something to recover.)

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  • 05.12.2006 8:19 AM PDT

Posted by: tennisman26
They also shouldn't seem like copies of the human weapons. It gets redundant when you have so many weapons that are alike. There really isn't any difference between the human weapons and Covenant weapons, other than the latter does more damage to the shields than the former. I'm against a Covenant shotgun replication. However, the same effect could be accomplished in a different way.


I totally agree. However don't forget the Covenant already have a very powerful short-range weapon in the plasma sword.

  • 05.12.2006 8:24 AM PDT
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i agree with you both

  • 05.12.2006 8:28 AM PDT

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