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Subject: Quote Boxes

A bad "wave" of profanity hit the Flood forum recently. Many people quoted the person using the bad language and argued with the horrendous remarks, then people ended up posting around to not quote the person and it all ended up in a bit of a mess.

So Community, people cannot use quote boxes containing violations of the CoC, right? I think some still don't understand that as they think "well I didn't post it so it will not affect me." The post is still there and the profanity still exists in plain view.

Should there perhaps be a clear, written rule that people should not quote violations of the code of conduct? If there is already could it be made clearer? Just something I thought I should talk about.

Thoughts?

  • 01.06.2012 3:44 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

It is clear, don't rely to spam and don't quote profanity. (quoting counts). People will know becuase mods normally PM or warn first time offenders.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:48 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:45 PM PDT

Spread the love...

I guess it should be made clearer to those that don't understand.

But then again, a ban is always a good way of teaching them.

  • 01.06.2012 3:46 PM PDT

Posted by: spartain ken 15
It is clear, don't rely to spam. (quoting counts). People know.
People obviously do not know. When did spam become profanity also?

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First of all, consider what forum you were in. Secondly, quotes are for making conversations more smooth, so no one should be held responsible for something they quoted.

Also, if it didn't get censored by Bungie's -blam!- filter then it can't be that bad.

  • 01.06.2012 3:47 PM PDT
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I'm in favor of bans for people who quote such violations. The only acceptable action one can take is a click of the report button, in my opinion.

  • 01.06.2012 3:47 PM PDT
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It makes sense, as long as moderators aren't strict about it.

  • 01.06.2012 3:48 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Posted by: spartain ken 15
It is clear, don't rely to spam. (quoting counts). People know.
People obviously do not know. When did spam become profanity also?


I worded that badly. If you quote a shock site, your posting a shock site. Most people know to report.

  • 01.06.2012 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: LH Justin
no one should be held responsible for something they quoted.
Problem is though, even if an abuse-spewing user's posts are removed, the quotes remain.

  • 01.06.2012 3:49 PM PDT

“Oh, it’s a little bit of everything, it’s the mountains, it’s the fog, it’s the news at six o’clock, it’s the death of my first dog, it’s the angels up above me, it’s the song that they don’t sing, It’s a little bit of everything.”
- Dawes, A little bit of everything

Well, the person you are referring to (I assume you mean the neo--blam!-) should have only been reported and not replied to at all. People replying to it, while they may feel their response needs to be said it really does not. The people who do that kind of -blam!- live off of the responses we give them, and if we give them nothing, they starve.

Posted by: The Internet
Don't feed the trolls.


I believe there have been threads about this in the past (pertaining to quotes including malicious/profane links, hate speech, etc.) and yes, people shouldn't respond. A warning from a moderator should be enough to get the message across, I would think it common sense not to continue that kind of -blam!- by quoting it.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:49 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:49 PM PDT

One of my first bans was for quoting ASCII art. At the time I was not aware that quoting something also makes you responsible for the content that the other user had posted. Now I have learned my lesson and am in total agreement with the rule.

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Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Posted by: LH Justin
no one should be held responsible for something they quoted.
Problem is though, even if an abuse-spewing user's posts are removed, the quotes remain.
True, but you're on the Internet. if people aren't adult enough to handle things like that popping up every once in a while then there's no point in even having a forum, because it's going to happen.

A rule like this will just get people in trouble, it won't even slow the "problem," which isn't even a major problem, mind you.

  • 01.06.2012 3:52 PM PDT

“Oh, it’s a little bit of everything, it’s the mountains, it’s the fog, it’s the news at six o’clock, it’s the death of my first dog, it’s the angels up above me, it’s the song that they don’t sing, It’s a little bit of everything.”
- Dawes, A little bit of everything


Posted by: LH Justin

Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Posted by: LH Justin
no one should be held responsible for something they quoted.
Problem is though, even if an abuse-spewing user's posts are removed, the quotes remain.
True, but you're on the Internet. if people aren't adult enough to handle things like that popping up every once in a while then there's no point in even having a forum, because it's going to happen.

A rule like this will just get people in trouble, it won't even slow the "problem," which isn't even a major problem, mind you.
I disagree. It is easy to show restraint and simply report a post. That way, you don't spread the offending material and, in severe cases, you eliminate the need for a moderator to edit your post to remove the offending content (shock site link, for example). The problem, you are right, is not major. I do believe that it deserves recognition.

People are too quick to anger, and post replies too quickly. Sure, they may report a post and then reply to it, but in the long run, it is a much better to get into the habit of reporting a post and then moving on.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 3:59 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 3:58 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

I've seen people get banned because they quoted someone with a meatspin link. It makes sense that they would get banned.

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Posted by: Kickimanjaro

Posted by: LH Justin

Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Posted by: LH Justin
no one should be held responsible for something they quoted.
Problem is though, even if an abuse-spewing user's posts are removed, the quotes remain.
True, but you're on the Internet. if people aren't adult enough to handle things like that popping up every once in a while then there's no point in even having a forum, because it's going to happen.

A rule like this will just get people in trouble, it won't even slow the "problem," which isn't even a major problem, mind you.
I disagree. It is easy to show restraint and simply report a post. That way, you don't spread the offending material and, in severe cases, you eliminate the need for a moderator to edit your post to remove the offending content (shock site link, for example).
What are you disagreeing with? Obviously if the message actually merits a reply there can't be anything too bad in it (for example, simple profanity).

Now if someone quotes the material for the sole purpose of saving it then they should be given a warning at the most.

[Edited on 01.06.2012 4:01 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2012 4:00 PM PDT

“Oh, it’s a little bit of everything, it’s the mountains, it’s the fog, it’s the news at six o’clock, it’s the death of my first dog, it’s the angels up above me, it’s the song that they don’t sing, It’s a little bit of everything.”
- Dawes, A little bit of everything

Oh, sorry about that, I was dissagreeing with the following statement:
if people aren't adult enough to handle things like that popping up every once in a while then there's no point in even having a forum

[Edited on 01.06.2012 4:04 PM PST]

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Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Oh, sorry about that, I was dissagreeing with the following statement:
if people aren't adult enough to handle things like that popping up every once in a while then there's no point in even having a forum
Why? If people can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be here. You can't shelter the community from all things bad.

  • 01.06.2012 4:17 PM PDT