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Subject: The End Objective of the Reclaimer Trilogy?

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Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


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You could've put spoilers in the title, I thought you were referring to the game trilogy and haven't read primordium yet...

This whole forum is buzzing about Primordium. They'd have to put "Spoilers" at the top of this forum...I haven't read the book either but I don't really care if I know some of the plot points.


That wouldn't be so bad if the title was obviously about primordium, the reclaimer trilogy is the name of the game trilogy...


Well I apologise, but I would suggest that if you don't want spoilers about Primordium, that you stay away from this forum in general until you've read the book, because it seems quite likely and obvious that people here will be using newly found information in their theories, ideas, etc.

  • 01.08.2012 4:12 AM PDT


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You could've put spoilers in the title, I thought you were referring to the game trilogy and haven't read primordium yet...

This whole forum is buzzing about Primordium. They'd have to put "Spoilers" at the top of this forum...I haven't read the book either but I don't really care if I know some of the plot points.


That wouldn't be so bad if the title was obviously about primordium, the reclaimer trilogy is the name of the game trilogy...


Well I apologise, but I would suggest that if you don't want spoilers about Primordium, that you stay away from this forum in general until you've read the book, because it seems quite likely and obvious that people here will be using newly found information in their theories, ideas, etc.


I understand, but misleading title + saying 'no spoilers' then saying 'the precursors are the flood' is a little harsh ^^'

  • 01.08.2012 4:16 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: DarkBen64

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Posted by: DarkBen64

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: DarkBen64
You could've put spoilers in the title, I thought you were referring to the game trilogy and haven't read primordium yet...

This whole forum is buzzing about Primordium. They'd have to put "Spoilers" at the top of this forum...I haven't read the book either but I don't really care if I know some of the plot points.


That wouldn't be so bad if the title was obviously about primordium, the reclaimer trilogy is the name of the game trilogy...


Well I apologise, but I would suggest that if you don't want spoilers about Primordium, that you stay away from this forum in general until you've read the book, because it seems quite likely and obvious that people here will be using newly found information in their theories, ideas, etc.


I understand, but misleading title + saying 'no spoilers' then saying 'the precursors are the flood' is a little harsh ^^'

Look, I'm not going to sit here discussing whether I did any injustice. Of course I'm going to use Primordium information, practically every other active topic on this forum is using the same information as me and some of them don't have Spoilers warnings. And in addition, I'm not even spoiling much of the book, it's one plot point; there's far more in Primordium than that.

In a thread theorising about the Reclaimer Trilogy, it surely must have occured to you that all relevant information would be used, including Primordium.

  • 01.08.2012 4:26 AM PDT
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>> Still waiting for Primordium to come out in my area...

  • 01.08.2012 5:03 AM PDT
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Maybe each time the Flood returns they make a new gravemind out of teh species they consume, maybe precursors were graveminds of many different species, and every time they return they create a new gravemind, if that species is worthy and takes up the mantle.

that would explain what the TO said that he was the last of his kind, the last gravemind of that specific race used to construct him maybe.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:24 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 10:23 AM PDT


Posted by: spartan876

How it happened was humanity's leaders somehow changed the genetic code of certain people in patterns, so that the flood could not keep up with such different genetics. Think of it almost as selective breeding just to wipe out the flood.


But we know the truth, We know that what you just said DIDN'T actually happen (or at least it didn't work).

You are not understanding the question. We are not wondering what humanity did to create a cure because we now know, thanks to primordium, that there NEVER WAS A CURE. We are curious as to if humanity knew the REAL cure, which wasn't a cure at all, just delaying the inevitable.

Something tells me all half these replies are from people who haven't read primordium because they are completely failing to understand the question.

We are wondering if the "cure" that you just stated was in fact just a cover up, to try and convince the sacrificial lambs that they were doing "the right thing", when in reality (read primordium) they may have just been giving up.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 10:41 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 10:36 AM PDT
Subject: The End Objective of the Reclaimer Trilogy?


Posted by: DarkBen64

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Posted by: DarkBen64

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: DarkBen64
You could've put spoilers in the title, I thought you were referring to the game trilogy and haven't read primordium yet...

This whole forum is buzzing about Primordium. They'd have to put "Spoilers" at the top of this forum...I haven't read the book either but I don't really care if I know some of the plot points.


That wouldn't be so bad if the title was obviously about primordium, the reclaimer trilogy is the name of the game trilogy...


Well I apologise, but I would suggest that if you don't want spoilers about Primordium, that you stay away from this forum in general until you've read the book, because it seems quite likely and obvious that people here will be using newly found information in their theories, ideas, etc.


I understand, but misleading title + saying 'no spoilers' then saying 'the precursors are the flood' is a little harsh ^^'


I'm sorry, but going into any forum related to a topic and getting spoiled about THAT TOPIC is no ones fault but your own.

  • 01.08.2012 10:39 AM PDT
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I bought Primordium the other day, but I also bought World War Z, so I haven't started Primordium yet.

Anyway, what you say makes sense given what I currently know. However, the thing that throws me is the mention of Precursor "architecture" by the Didact in Cryptum. Something about it being eternal and longer-lasting than Forerunner architecture makes it confusing given recent information. That being said, it paints a pretty impressive picture in one's head.

I just can't picture the Flood needing anything like that. Does Primordium hint whether or not the Precursors started off in that state? Like, maybe there was a gradual transformation from "Gods of the Milky Way" to parasite?

[Edited on 01.08.2012 11:19 AM PST]

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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I just can't picture the Flood needing anything like that. Does Primordium hint whether or not the Precursors started off in that state? Like, maybe there was a gradual transformation from "Gods of the Milky Way" to parasite?


You are honestly going to have to read the book to get a better understanding.

  • 01.08.2012 12:37 PM PDT

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I just can't picture the Flood needing anything like that. Does Primordium hint whether or not the Precursors started off in that state? Like, maybe there was a gradual transformation from "Gods of the Milky Way" to parasite?
You are honestly going to have to read the book to get a better understanding.
I plan on it.

It's just...zombies first.

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: Primo84
I just can't picture the Flood needing anything like that. Does Primordium hint whether or not the Precursors started off in that state? Like, maybe there was a gradual transformation from "Gods of the Milky Way" to parasite?
You are honestly going to have to read the book to get a better understanding.
I plan on it.

It's just...zombies first.


In short "precursors" applies to all of the primordial races, the originals. It seems that the races evolved into a post-scarcity society and then created the flood as a means for unity and wisdom (off current knowledge). They gave themselves to the flood and started all the hypocritical drama we now have to deal with.

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Hypocritical drama made me lol, especially the "we now have to deal with". Such an understatement, but yet SOO accurate.

  • 01.08.2012 7:05 PM PDT

Posted by: spartan876
How it happened was humanity's leaders somehow changed the genetic code of certain people in patterns, so that the flood could not keep up with such different genetics. Think of it almost as selective breeding just to wipe out the flood.
No that's not how it happened. Have you read Primordium? The humans did not cure the Flood, nor did they defeat the Flood. They only sacrificed so much of their population that the Flood simply went away, with the promise of return.

[Edited on 01.08.2012 8:10 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2012 8:07 PM PDT
Subject: The End Objective of the Reclaimer Trilogy?

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I pretty much agree through and through. I wonder if humanity actually thought thehy cured the flood when they sacrificed 2/3 of their population to them, or if they were simply doing its wishes and feeding them humans so they could delay the inevitable another 100,000 years. (that also makes me wonder why the precursors would even bother to delay their consumption of humans...perhaps the war with the forerunner made them weaker than the flood wanted when they took them in).

It gives me high hopes for this trilogy because it means the forerunners and everyone involved in the original flood war has probably been preparing for this inevitable oncoming of the precursors for the last 100,000 years. No doubt the forerunners have been waiting for this eventuality since they learned of it, and have many systems in place to help humanity fight and try to win.

It's going to be crazy epic.

The delay could be to see if humanity has what it takes to take on the mantle. Or if they are not worthy, and to get info on how the forerunner fight and see what their form of fighting was, and how to beat them.

  • 01.09.2012 8:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

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I just can't picture the Flood needing anything like that. Does Primordium hint whether or not the Precursors started off in that state? Like, maybe there was a gradual transformation from "Gods of the Milky Way" to parasite?
You are honestly going to have to read the book to get a better understanding.
I plan on it.

It's just...zombies first.


In short "precursors" applies to all of the primordial races, the originals. It seems that the races evolved into a post-scarcity society and then created the flood as a means for unity and wisdom (off current knowledge). They gave themselves to the flood and started all the hypocritical drama we now have to deal with.

Or maybe not, some may have but remember how the forerunners and humans fought each other during their wars, there may have been a civil war among the precursor against those who had lost fate and now relied on the flood, as their only hope.

What this could mean is that the Precursor stopped the release of the flood but as the forerunners did not know this killed of those protecting them as well, and allowed the curropted ones to start their plan at last.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

You do know that "precursors" applies to all of the Elder races right? There isn't one "precursor" race.

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Posted by: grey101
You do know that "precursors" applies to all of the Elder races right? There isn't one "precursor" race.

Im sorry i didnt read the book.
But is this stated in the book ?

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
You do know that "precursors" applies to all of the Elder races right? There isn't one "precursor" race.

Im sorry i didnt read the book.
But is this stated in the book ?


Nope. i am just making up BS statements so i can scold people like you later for believing dumb stuff.

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You could've put spoilers in the title, I thought you were referring to the game trilogy and haven't read primordium yet...

This whole forum is buzzing about Primordium. They'd have to put "Spoilers" at the top of this forum...I haven't read the book either but I don't really care if I know some of the plot points.


That wouldn't be so bad if the title was obviously about primordium, the reclaimer trilogy is the name of the game trilogy...


Well I apologise, but I would suggest that if you don't want spoilers about Primordium, that you stay away from this forum in general until you've read the book, because it seems quite likely and obvious that people here will be using newly found information in their theories, ideas, etc.


I understand, but misleading title + saying 'no spoilers' then saying 'the precursors are the flood' is a little harsh ^^'


For me the hardest part about understanding the books is that the Precursor could be lying. The books could be interpreted to support the idea that the Precursors created the Flood, but I don't think there is conclusive evidence yet.

  • 01.09.2012 8:03 PM PDT

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Or there is more meaning to one phrase. Although i wish that their language is very different. For example when you see another language one word can be interpreted in more than one way.

Hope they make a language for them specially like Tolkein did for elves and dwarves etc.

  • 01.09.2012 8:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: grey101
You do know that "precursors" applies to all of the Elder races right? There isn't one "precursor" race.

Im sorry i didnt read the book.
But is this stated in the book ?


Nope. i am just making up BS statements so i can scold people like i am later for believing dumb stuff.


Fix'd

  • 01.09.2012 9:35 PM PDT

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